More J-women equals greater profit, YEAH!

[Taro Toporific]

[DJEB]

It should make a good political economy study: will they go for the cash, or will they preserve the sexist status quo?

[Caustic Saint]

Sounds like underpants gnomes logic to me:

Step 1: Hire more J-women
Step 2: ???????
Step 3: Profit!

[DJEB]

Time to go to work,

Work all night.

Search for J-women, hey!

We won't stop till we have J-women.

Yummy-time! Yummy-time! Hey!

[cstaylor]

Um, I'm pretty sure the reason for higher profitability is that the women accept lower salaries, but if that's what it takes to change the system...

[GuyJean]

Um, I'm pretty sure the reason for higher profitability is that the women accept lower salaries..

+ no hostess tabs
+ no whore tabs
+ lower bonus'

GJ

[gpvillamil]

Probably because the % of women varies by industry, and the industries with a higher % of women are more profitable. A valid study would be to compare companies in the *same* industry and see if the ones with more women are more profitable. I suspect we won't see a huge difference. While the number of women may *correlate* with higher profitability, it is not the *cause*.

[Though my anecdotal experience is that companies in Japan that are better at promoting women are generally better managed, hence there might be some impact.]

Companies with less than 10% of women in the workforce are likely to be heavy manufacturing or construction, which are in bad economic condition and suffering from Chinese/Korean competition.

Companies with more than 40% of women in the workforce are likely to be in services, healthcare, light manufacturing, IT, etc. which are doing better.

Basically, companies that are more profitable are generally in industries that also hire more women. This has been true for the past 40 years in every industrialized country, as the economy shifts from manufacturing to services. I guess Japan is going through this transition later than most, but it's not a huge surprise.

It does not imply that a company in a smokestack industry will suddenly become more profitable if it hires a bunch of women.

[Taro Toporific]

...A valid study would be to compare companies in the *same* industry and see if the ones with more women are more profitable...Basically, companies that are more profitable are generally in industries that also hire more women. This has been true for the past 40 years in every industrialized country...

Hot damn gpvillamil-sama, talk about Throwing Pearls before Swine (like me)...that's a great off the cuff analysis.

That need to "compare companies in the *same* industry" also goes far to explain the divergence of opinion here on the FG about the health of Japan Inc. Like several other FG people, I work in a traditional zombie company whereas GomiGirl or perhaps also Jack work on the leading edge where some reform has taken place. The differences between the old and new Japan is astounding.

[kamome]

It's probably not even necessary to engage in a scientific analysis. Anyone who has worked in a company that employs J-women in positions that involve more responsibility than tea pouring will know that they can be real crackerjack employees. And J-women tend to have better aptitude for foreign language acquisition, they tend to be more efficient and more detail-oriented, and are more likely to be open to fresh ideas about the company than their male counterparts.

[ramchop]

And J-women tend to have better aptitude for foreign language acquisition

OK completely off topic, but...

NHK bilingual news. The women translators are fucking useless, but the man does all right. Using my low brow stereotyping I always thought women were better at languages than men. Or it could be that the women are Japanese and their translations are more accurate but just sound funny in their pseudo-English. whereas the bloke might be getting it wrong, but his English is spot on (and what would I know).

Plus I've got great respect for the guy who does the News Forest (?) translations on 6. How can he not crack up in fits of laughter when there's a 10 min "scientific study" on the flamability of vodka on clothes?

[Taro Toporific]

And J-women tend to have better aptitude for foreign language acquisition

OK completely off topic, but...

NHK bilingual news. The women translators are fucking useless, but the man does all right...

GET THIS.
Those twits are for the most part, about 70+ of the time, are READING a prepared script and not interpreting on the fly. Arrrrrrrrrrrrg.

[GomiGirl]

GET THIS.
Those twits are for the most part, about 70+ of the time, are READING a prepared script and not interpreting on the fly. Arrrrrrrrrrrrg.

Very true.. but Murry (I think that is his name) has excellent Japanese.

the similtaneous translators that I have used - and this is only a few - the guys have been brilliant.

Some useless information from the secret lost files of my befuddled head - language, music and mathematics use similar parts of the brain. Also, people that are able to imitate accents are *usually* quicker at picking up languages.

[GomiGirl]

It's probably not even necessary to engage in a scientific analysis. Anyone who has worked in a company that employs J-women in positions that involve more responsibility than tea pouring will know that they can be real crackerjack employees. And J-women tend to have better aptitude for foreign language acquisition, they tend to be more efficient and more detail-oriented, and are more likely to be open to fresh ideas about the company than their male counterparts.

I will agree with you. The J-women that we have employed have been fantastic and they have no hesitation in pushing the guys in the office around.

We don't have OL's here but we mainly have had female accounts/book-keepers/administration staff and they really keep the engineers in line. Perhaps because they also do the payroll might have something to do with it.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

It's probably not even necessary to engage in a scientific analysis. Anyone who has worked in a company that employs J-women in positions that involve more responsibility than tea pouring will know that they can be real crackerjack employees. And J-women tend to have better aptitude for foreign language acquisition, they tend to be more efficient and more detail-oriented, and are more likely to be open to fresh ideas about the company than their male counterparts.

I will agree with you. The J-women that we have employed have been fantastic and they have no hesitation in pushing the guys in the office around.

We don't have OL's here but we mainly have had female accounts/book-keepers/administration staff and they really keep the engineers in line. Perhaps because they also do the payroll might have something to do with it.

I should put you in touch with the former Mrs. Gaisaradatsuraku. She was/remains a pip. Did I mention that she put the Baba in the Baba chop?

Yes, she did!