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NYT On Coerced Confessions

Postby Mulboyne » Fri May 11, 2007 4:01 pm

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Postby Takechanpoo » Fri May 11, 2007 8:20 pm

Fucking NYT seems to really love to report negative aspect of Japan.
It dose its best to lower Chrysanthemum brand power.
DIE!
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Postby omae mona » Fri May 11, 2007 9:11 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Fucking NYT seems to really love to report negative aspect of Japan.
It dose its best to lower Chrysanthemum brand power.
DIE!


Fucking NYT reporter Onishi-san ex-Son of Chrysanthemum!
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Postby kamome » Sat May 12, 2007 1:20 am

Takechanpoo wrote:Fucking NYT seems to really love to report negative aspect of Japan.
It dose its best to lower Chrysanthemum brand power.
DIE!


Instead of blaming the NYT for printing the truth, you "Chrysanthemums" should try to address the actual problem instead of burying your collective heads in the sand.
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Postby xenomorph42 » Sat May 12, 2007 5:15 am

Amen! Without a doubt, more light needs to be shed on the subject. Way too long was this subject swept under the rug. People always say, the Japanese police are the most gentlemanly, well-mannered and always helpful. Now that the NYT has brought this to the forefront, maybe we can finally see a potential overhaul of the law enforcements dreaded nazi tactics system. :shake:
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Postby Takechanpoo » Sat May 12, 2007 12:49 pm

xenomorph42 wrote:People always say, the Japanese police are the most gentlemanly, well-mannered and always helpful. Now that the NYT has brought this to the forefront, maybe we can finally see a potential overhaul of the law enforcements dreaded nazi tactics system. :shake:

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Postby DrP » Sat May 12, 2007 5:19 pm

What more could you expect from a country that only has 3 steps for conflict resolution:

1) Denial
2) Confess and apology
3) Suicide
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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:31 pm

Yomiuri: 'Too much emphasis put on confessions'
The Supreme Public Prosecutors Office released Friday an unprecedented report that admits investigators often place too much emphasis on confessions, saying that prosecutors should reflect on this as necessary. The report was compiled following an investigation into the case of a man who, after being mistakenly arrested for rape and attempted rape in 2002 by Toyoma prefectural police, and sentenced to a three-year prison term after he was forced to confess to the crime, which led to his conviction. In another case, 12 people charged with buying votes or accepting money for their votes in the run-up to the Kagoshima prefectural assembly election in April 2003 were found not guilty.

The report includes proposals for measures that would help to avoid false charges, such as a closer examination of the available evidence, and suggestions for how best to conduct investigations. It is unprecedented for prosecutors to propose measures to improve investigative procedures following a thorough examination of individual cases. On the same day, the office sent copies of the report to district public prosecutors offices.

Regarding the Toyama case, the report states that despite insufficient evidence, prosecutors did not consider the confession's reliability. The report also attributes the false charge to the lack of experience on the part of the chief prosecutor in the case, as well as the failure of the chief prosecutor at the Toyama branch, who made the final decision, to file a report with the head office despite knowing there were problems with the evidence. As for the Kagoshima case, the report states that in addition to intimidation and a lack of thorough investigation to back up the evidence, the long trial resulted in some defendants being detained for as long as 395 days.

In light of the mistakes, the office has recommended six steps to prevent the recurrence of such false charges, including a thorough gathering of evidence by prosecutorial authorities, who must examine a case from various angles to see if there is evidence capable of undermining the charges. The suspects' arguments must also be taken into accounts the official says. Prosecutors should get involved as soon as possible in cases referred to them by the police.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:01 pm

Mainichi: Kagoshima police chief admits investigators knew about alibis in vote-buying case
Kagoshima Prefectural Police chief Yuji Fujiyama has admitted that police were aware a defendant accused of buying votes during the Kagoshima Prefectural Assembly election in 2003 had alibis soon after charges were filed against him. Fujiyama made the admission when questioned by prefectural assembly member Takuma Kirihara on Wednesday. All 12 defendants in the case were found not guilty. Police have not publicly released any internal information relating to an internal probe into the investigation following the not-guilty verdict.

In July 2003, the Kagoshima District Public Prosecutors Office filed charges against one of the former defendants, prefectural assembly member Shinichi Nakayama, accusing him of holding vote-buying meetings on four occasions between February 2003 and March that year. However, on the occasions that Nakayama was accused of holding the first and fourth meetings, he was present at a reunion meeting and an informal gathering. During Nakayama's trial, police said, "He slipped out halfway through and attended the vote-buying meetings," but the Kagoshima District Court rejected the argument in February this year, saying it conflicted with objective facts, and declared Nakayama not guilty.

On Wednesday, Kirihara questioned Fujiyama, asking him when police became aware of Nakayama's alibis. Fujiyama replied, "It was in late July 2003 that we became aware that Kirihara had attended the reunion and the informal gathering," indicating that police knew about the alibis immediately after he was charged. Referring to internal documents indicating that police and public prosecutors were considering adjusting the case so the facts would fit together, Kirihara said, "The case should have been reviewed as soon as they became aware of the alibis."

After the prefectural assembly meeting on Wednesday, Fujiyama maintained that police had acted appropriately, saying, "We thought it would be possible to form a case based on other investigative information." Sachio Kawabata, 61, another defendant in the case who has brought accusations against a former assistant police inspector, accusing the officer of making him trample on pieces of paper bearing his family members' names, remained angered over Fujiyama's response. "The police chief just read over the documents, and he is making fools out of the former defendants," Kawabata said.
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Postby dimwit » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:50 am

God, that guy always seems to be one move away from the ejector seat button. You sort of wonder if he isn't still secretly working for the DJP.

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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:11 am

Mainichi: Justice minister proposes apology for denying false charges in vote-buying case
Justice Minister Kunio Hatoyama said Friday he wanted to apologize frankly to people declared not guilty in a Kagoshima vote-buying case over any trouble caused by his earlier statement denying that they had been falsely accused. "From the viewpoint of the people who were accused, I suppose it was natural for them to say 'the false accusations have been cleared up' when they were found not guilty," the minister said in a post Cabinet meeting news conference on Friday. "If I have made any of the people who were accused feel uncomfortable through the comments I made at a meeting of prosecution chiefs, then I want to apologize frankly," he said. At a House of Representatives Budget Committee meeting on Thursday, Hatoyama had been pursued over his statement that the charges against the former suspects in the case "shouldn't be called false charges," prompting him to effectively take back the comment.
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Postby American Oyaji » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:13 am

I'm glad someone called him on his BS comment. It was stretching reality to the breaking point.
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Postby james » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:31 am

Takechanpoo wrote:Fucking NYT seems to really love to report negative aspect of Japan.
It dose its best to lower Chrysanthemum brand power.
DIE!


take, i've really never had to say this to you, but seriously, go fuck yourself you little fucking twat.

it's more than high time that the antics of the j-stone koppers made international press.

go crawl back under the rock you pissant little pre-cambrian half-wit.
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Postby Behan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:24 pm

Take is a troll.
His [Brendan Behan's] last words were to several nuns standing over his bed, "God bless you, may your sons all be bishops."
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Postby Iraira » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:02 pm

Behan wrote:Take is a troll.

According to what I remember from his old YouTube site (before they suspended it), he said something to the effect that his humor is not understood by most, and that what is does is for the humor. It's kinda Andy Kauffman-like, I guess. Bottom line is, he probably really isn't racist as he seems, he's a topic and he posts things that denigrate Japanese as well as the foreigner that makes us all look like a-holes (people whom we want to drag over hot coals, also).
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Postby Greji » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:42 pm

Iraira wrote:According to what I remember from his old YouTube site (before they suspended it), he said something to the effect that his humor is not understood by most, and that what is does is for the humor. It's kinda Andy Kauffman-like, I guess. Bottom line is, he probably really isn't racist as he seems, he's a topic and he posts things that denigrate Japanese as well as the foreigner that makes us all look like a-holes (people whom we want to drag over hot coals, also).



I was going to call you Andy Kauffman, but if I did, you wouldn't buy lunch anymore!
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Postby Iraira » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:17 pm

Greji wrote:I was going to call you Andy Kauffman, but if I did, you wouldn't buy lunch anymore!
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You're referring to the Andy Kauffman Elvis look that I'm getting? A month ago or so, the gf said that I'm starting to go bald in certain sections of my cavernous dome, so I've been boycotting getting a haircut. That, or too many tonkatsu have been packing on extra layers of zeiniku around the waist....winter & hibernation. Or, do you have some secret desire to clothesline me, as Jerry Lawler did to Kauffman? That was scripted, so if we practiced it, we might be able to pull off an effective wrestling routine outside of Toranomon station. Ok, I'll go to Don Quixote later and get some spandex tights, later this week. Will you be wrestling in your Meijingu-lollikon outfit? We could do one of those Appalachia mountain man winner gets to bugger a goat wrestling matches?
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Postby Ketou » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:52 am

"They released the report. And we believe the report will be used in order to prevent it from happening again." Trial by jury has just been introduced in Japan, and campaigners hope it will cast light on the justice system.


I was under the impression that the jury verdict in the Japanese system was not binding on the judge. Merely an opinion of peers.
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Postby Behan » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:33 pm

Ketou wrote:I was under the impression that the jury verdict in the Japanese system was not binding on the judge. Merely an opinion of peers.


I think if none of the judges agree with the jurors, they get overruled by the judges. The judges count for more in this system.

I kind of think there will be a tendency for jurors to vote the way the judges want them to, anyway.
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