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Korean Media Picks up On Yokohama's Approval Of Disputed Textbook

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Postby Mulboyne » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:22 am

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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:06 am

I always find it amusing how Koreans and Chinese always get up in arms about Japanese textbooks, yet not only beautify their own history but also continue to demonize Japan.
Not, mind you, that I condone Japan's "unique" take on its history....
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Postby Coligny » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:30 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:I always find it amusing how Koreans and Chinese always get up in arms about Japanese textbooks, yet not only beautify their own history but also continue to demonize Japan.
Not, mind you, that I condone Japan's "unique" take on its history....



Demonizing japan is... not that hard from an historical standpoint... just stating the facts would make clive Barker look like a more family friendly version of the teletubbies... Also... remember... history is written by the winners...

Meanwhile... in a civilized country... (european...) publishing this kind of books would mean jailtime...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:09 am

Coligny wrote:Meanwhile... in a civilized country... (european...) publishing this kind of books would mean jailtime...


Yeah, Europe is pretty fucked up with its thought crime laws.
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Japanese textbook is NOT controversial according to Stanford Univ.

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:57 pm

"Japanese history textbook is most fair among Japanese, American, Taiwanese, Chinese and Korean ones" -Peter Duus
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Postby wuchan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:38 pm

Coligny wrote: Also... remember... history is written by the winners...

Except in Japan.
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Postby Jack » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:28 am

Coligny wrote:Demonizing japan is... not that hard from an historical standpoint... just stating the facts would make clive Barker look like a more family friendly version of the teletubbies... Also... remember... history is written by the winners...


You can't do that. You have to look at war in the context at the time not with 65 years of hindsight. War crime is war crime, no qestion about that. But even that is subjective. The bombing of Tokyo is a war crime in every sense of the word not to mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki and yet people would say "yes but..." and give you justification for it. The invasion by Japan on Korea and China face similar justification. It just turned out that Japan lost the war so they have to face the criticism while America can brush it off.

I'm fed up with Korrean and Chinese people always screeming murder at Japanese textbooks or whatever Japan does that doesn't please them.
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Postby Greji » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:34 am

"There are those that learn by reading. Then a few who learn by observation. The rest have to piss on an electric fence and find out for themselves!"- Will Rogers
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Postby rooboy » Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:55 pm

Substitute a few words and most of this piece re the Japanese racist based nationalism etc is absolutely applicable to Korea and China etc and their textbooks.

Korea compensates for its loser status in history (smothered by a succession of Chinese dynasties, retreating into a fantasy world of Korean importance while all the fucking development of around 6 plus centuries passed em by and then waking up to find out just how everybody had moved on esp Japan who forced them to modernise) by just as shitty distortions of history.

Go to their "Independence Hall" and you aint see shit about how WW2's ending freed em from the Japanese. Instead you read about how these 'Great Han People' are all descended from one mythical figure, invented just about everything, are a 'race', and magically overthrew the Js with no help from anybody. According to friends who work in Korea, their school textbooks are in some cases worse than those in Japan.

Makes it even more stupid when you go there and see just how dark Koreans really are when they're not whitening their skin. Makes those repressed histories of Indians going there as well as other kinds of people come to life. Been there, they look what they are - mixes of Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Mongolian, Indian with some white European blood thrown in. Their xenophobia is much worse than the xenophobia in Japan.
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Postby Tooki » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:38 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:What, tansoku minzoku? That's ain't no myth, big fella. :(


Assuming you mean "tanitsu minzoku," yes, it is a myth. Even as late as the 9th century more than one third of the Japanese nobility could trace their lineages directly back to Chinese and Korean immigrants. Moreover, modern Japanese also have elements of Ainu and Mongolian mixed into their heritage. The Japanese may be relatively homogeneous compared to most other countries, but that relatively homogeneous blood is still a mixture of different lineages. The idea of "nihonjinron" is that Japanese are of unique origin, which is simply not the case. The idea that any people have a unique origin and are completely homogeneous is ludicrous.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:49 pm

Tooki wrote:
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Assuming you mean "tanitsu minzoku," yes, it is a myth....


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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:58 pm

Tooki wrote:The idea that any people have a unique origin and are completely homogeneous is ludicrous.


What about homo sapiens sapiens?

I argue all people have a unique origin and are completely homogenous.
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Postby Greji » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:12 am

Tooki wrote:Assuming you mean "tanitsu minzoku," yes, it is a myth. Even as late as the 9th century more than one third of the Japanese nobility could trace their lineages directly back to Chinese and Korean immigrants. Moreover, modern Japanese also have elements of Ainu and Mongolian mixed into their heritage. The Japanese may be relatively homogeneous compared to most other countries, but that relatively homogeneous blood is still a mixture of different lineages. The idea of "nihonjinron" is that Japanese are of unique origin, which is simply not the case. The idea that any people have a unique origin and are completely homogeneous is ludicrous.


Nice post Tooki, but he was referring to the Well Documented Tanuki Minzoku, who are unique to unique Japan and are found only on the last train on any evening, in any place that sells sake over the counter and frequently are found posing as in-laws. They also appear in supervisory positions in any place you can find a job.
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Postby matsuki » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:21 am

Tooki wrote:Assuming you mean "tanitsu minzoku," yes, it is a myth. Even as late as the 9th century more than one third of the Japanese nobility could trace their lineages directly back to Chinese and Korean immigrants. Moreover, modern Japanese also have elements of Ainu and Mongolian mixed into their heritage. The Japanese may be relatively homogeneous compared to most other countries, but that relatively homogeneous blood is still a mixture of different lineages. The idea of "nihonjinron" is that Japanese are of unique origin, which is simply not the case.


Indeed...even their feeble strives to claim uniqueness despite the overwhelming evidence that says otherwise is not unique...especially in Asia.

Tooki wrote:The idea that any people have a unique origin and are completely homogeneous is ludicrous.


Actually, non-mixed Africans appear to be homogeneous modern humans of a unique origin while the rest of us are a mix of them and neanderthal.

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