Japan to double its refugees!

[Taro Toporific]

Hmmm, let's see: "30 Syrian students" plus last year's 27 refugees equals a total of 57 refugees per year---A massive double the number of refugees!

Japan to take in 150 Syrians as exchange students after criticism of harsh refugee policy
japantimes.co.jp
...Every year, 30 Syrian students who are either in Syria or who have fled to other countries will be selected to attend Japanese universities in the five-year period. Japan will receive them students through the government-sponsored exchange program and a program of the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), the nation’s aid agency...
...[Japan] received a record 7,586 applications for refugee status in 2015, but only 27 were granted.
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In 2015, Japan rejected 99 per cent of asylum applications, accepting only 27 refugees.

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[matsuki]

What is the current year predicted for Japanese extinction?

[Coligny]

What is the current year predicted for Japanese extinction?

As soon as we finish smuggling enough nuke...

[Grumpy Gramps]

It's fine. You're better off in Syria than in Japan. My heart goes out to the 150 poor souls, who will have to endure a life in bloody Japan.

[Taro Toporific]

What is the current year predicted for Japanese extinction?

When you figure that many Japanese universities are running at half capacity because of Japan’s negative population growth, accepting more refugee foreign students on academic scholarship might be a good way of killing two birds with one stone.
That is:
. . . . . . 1) Filling Japan’s half empty universities, and
. . . . . . 2) Increasing the educated and fertile population base.

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(Damn, it's hard to find good examples of Syrian porn.)

[yanpa]

It's fine. You're better off in Syria than in Japan. My heart goes out to the 150 poor souls, who will have to endure a life in bloody Japan.

Planning to emigrate then?

[kurogane]

It's fine. You're better off in Syria than in Japan. My heart goes out to the 150 poor souls, who will have to endure a life in bloody Japan.

They'll be fine. Not all Syrians are the drones we are looking for.

[Wage Slave]

It's fine. You're better off in Syria than in Japan. My heart goes out to the 150 poor souls, who will have to endure a life in bloody Japan.

They'll be fine. The elephant in the room here is everybody forgets to menion that Syrians are shithole sucking money whored cuntfarts. They make Lebanese and other Mittelost untermensch look like Canadians. The real shame with the Syrian war is that if it had happened to people real people could care about they would all be safe now. They're a hideous people. Like most Ehabs. 27 more sounds about enough. Other than Israelis middle easterners are shit. It's all terrible, but it's probably a proper cull. Nobody alive needs more ehabs. If they could learn not to be assholes it might help. We let in 25,000 of the fuckers and their advocates are already complaining. What a shit version of the species.

For fuck's sake. Now the Isreali will kick off.

On the piss tonight Kuro?

[kurogane]

Nah, night shifting it. Work went really wrong really quick this week. Back on Japan Time. It's horrible, FWIW

I was thinking warmly of you when I wrote that BS though

PS Belatedly, Happy Israel Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And happy Nakba Day too. I heard they call it that because it's the old Yiddish word for neighbour. And if they don't we can discuss it next year.............in Jerusalem

[Coligny]

Nah, night shifting it. Work went really wrong really quick this week. Back on Japan Time. It's horrible, FWIW

I was thinking warmly of you when I wrote that BS though

You need tissues ? I have my disaster stocks to rotate...

[kurogane]

You Eco-terrorist!!!!!!!

I have been old socking it since 1993.

[Coligny]

Yer babydick must look like the finger of an old leather glove...

[wangta]

I'm on Japan's side when it comes to refugee intakes. Sorry.
I hope the sanity of fuckedgaijin prevails at this comment instead of the hysterical asssertions in mainstream media when anybody doesn't welcome 'immigrants'. Silly me, I though immigrants were the kinds of people who come to Oz and pass health checks, criminal record checks, skills checks and pay a shitload of money for the privilege as well as doing the same in other western countries.
This whole Merkelfuck of inviting another country's population just to enter yours sans the normal security and other checks is insanity on one level, a political agenda on the other whereby the political rulers decide what's good for the peasants who happen to be citizens.
I love the whole open borders argument - yep, open borders for everybody who can hire a trafficker from the ME and Africa yet if you actually came from the UK and Europe but 'only' your greatgrandparents then you can't do the same.
Only on a tourist visa and guess what? You can't stay, even if you have skills and an unbroken ancestry that is provable. No open borders for the rest of us. Only if you happen to be from the ME/African and especially Muslim demographic.
I actually don't think many refugees would want to stay in Japan if many more were accepted.
There's little free stuff unlike in Oz, and I don't think the Japanese are ready to start kicking out Japanese from their rental homes to make way for 'refugees' the way the lovely German authorities in some cities did to their own.
I recall the refugees who went to Finland from Iraq quickly left. Something to do with the cold. They must really have feared persecution etc if the weather is so serious as to make them return to a place that supposedly is so dangerous.
A bit like the continual flow of 'asylums seekers' by boat in Oz under Kevin "I want the UN Secretary job". Kevin wanted UN brownie points and more voters so he encouraged them.
The first thing most of them did when they received citizenship was to go back home for a trip to the countries that apparently were so dangerous for them.

[Yokohammer]

I'm on Japan's side when it comes to refugee intakes. Sorry.

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Wangta,

I don't think you'll get much argument from the folks here that any immigration needs to be closely controlled. You can't just fling the doors open and roll out the welcome mat. The issue with Japan's response to immigration, for its own growth (make that "survival") as well as the international status it desires so much, is the pitifully low number of refugees accepted and the obvious tricks it uses to keep that number low.

Japan rejects 99% percent of refugee applications.

99%! That's not a number I pulled out of my hat, that is the rejection rate (and it's mentioned in the first post of this thread). Japan accepted 27 refugees in 2015. Careful monitoring and control isn't the issue. I'm all for that, as I'm sure others are as well. The issue is Japan's lack of foresight and initiative in dealing with its own problems, plus its lack of willingness to contribute to international issues without demanding an inordinate share of the pie.

[Wage Slave]

So, having a great grandparent from a European country should confer the right to claim citizenship by descent. I'm not so sure about that. I would say there has to be a line drawn somewhere and grandparent seems reasonable.

I see Australia draws the line at parent. And further, if the parent is an Australian citizen by descent the parent must have been in Australia for two years prior to the birth.

If someone wanted to establish freedom of movement between Australia and the EU, I would be all for it. And Canada, and New Zealand and the US. We can but hope.

[yanpa]

the pitifully low number of immigrants accepted and the obvious tricks it uses to keep that number low.

Japan rejects 99% percent of immigrant applications.

Shurely you mean refugees here?

[yanpa]

There's little free stuff unlike in Oz, and I don't think the Japanese are ready to start kicking out Japanese from their rental homes to make way for 'refugees' the way the lovely German authorities in some cities did to their own.

Citation needed?

[wuchan]

The issue is Japan's lack of foresight and initiative in dealing with its own problems, plus its lack of willingness to contribute to international issues without demanding an inordinate share of the pie.

Japan does contribute, they give money. In their mind it's enough. We wouldn't want undesirable people coming in and polluting the breeding pool of the master race. It's sad that these people are suffering but it's their fault that their people can't get along.

Well, that's what a group of locals told me at the izakaya a few days ago.

The funny part was when I pointed out that Japan was involved in a civil war for more than 1000 years I was told "that's different"

[Wage Slave]

There's little free stuff unlike in Oz, and I don't think the Japanese are ready to start kicking out Japanese from their rental homes to make way for 'refugees' the way the lovely German authorities in some cities did to their own.

Citation needed?

How unfair and typically discriminatory! Of course the mainstream media (aka the MSM to the believers) would never report such stories because they are all part of the system designed to deprive ordinary hard working decent white people of their rights.

[Yokohammer]

the pitifully low number of immigrants accepted and the obvious tricks it uses to keep that number low.

Japan rejects 99% percent of immigrant applications.

Shurely you mean refugees here?

Yes, refugees. Thank you.

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[Samurai_Jerk]

So, having a great grandparent from a European country should confer the right to claim citizenship by descent. I'm not so sure about that. I would say there has to be a line drawn somewhere and grandparent seems reasonable.

My ancestors on both sides were FFV's who kept great records so I can trace my heritage back to Scotland through everyone but my maternal Grandmother. I know exactly where my people came from and could probably find plenty of relatives in the UK if I wanted to. Sure we've been in the US since the 17th century by why shouldn't I have the right to a British passport?

I've never understood the mentality of people who think they deserve anything beyond basic civil liberties as a birthright. Though on a philosophical level I think it's fucked up that people can't live wherever they want but practically speaking I don't think we can just throw the borders open.

[J.A.F.O]

I'm on Japan's side when it comes to refugee intakes. Sorry.

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Wangta,

I don't think you'll get much argument from the folks here that any immigration needs to be closely controlled. You can't just fling the doors open and roll out the welcome mat. The issue with Japan's response to immigration, for its own growth (make that "survival") as well as the international status it desires so much, is the pitifully low number of refugees accepted and the obvious tricks it uses to keep that number low.

Japan rejects 99% percent of refugee applications.

99%! That's not a number I pulled out of my hat, that is the rejection rate (and it's mentioned in the first post of this thread). Japan accepted 27 refugees in 2015. Careful monitoring and control isn't the issue. I'm all for that, as I'm sure others are as well. The issue is Japan's lack of foresight and initiative in dealing with its own problems, plus its lack of willingness to contribute to international issues without demanding an inordinate share of the pie.

This is why I don't really get involved too deeply in politics anymore. I think a country should be free to do as they please. If they refuse immigrants then so be it. Just as long as they are willing to accept the consequences of their decision for better or worse.

[matsuki]

I'm on Japan's side when it comes to refugee intakes. Sorry.

...

Wangta,

I don't think you'll get much argument from the folks here that any immigration needs to be closely controlled. You can't just fling the doors open and roll out the welcome mat. The issue with Japan's response to immigration, for its own growth (make that "survival") as well as the international status it desires so much, is the pitifully low number of refugees accepted and the obvious tricks it uses to keep that number low.

Japan rejects 99% percent of refugee applications.

99%! That's not a number I pulled out of my hat, that is the rejection rate (and it's mentioned in the first post of this thread). Japan accepted 27 refugees in 2015. Careful monitoring and control isn't the issue. I'm all for that, as I'm sure others are as well. The issue is Japan's lack of foresight and initiative in dealing with its own problems, plus its lack of willingness to contribute to international issues without demanding an inordinate share of the pie.

This is why I don't really get involved too deeply in politics anymore. I think a country should be free to do as they please. If they refuse immigrants then so be it. Just as long as they are willing to accept the consequences of their decision for better or worse.

I think what Yoko is getting at isn't that they just plain refuse most every refugee and stand by it....but clinging to the membership of the international big boys club and demanding that kind of status without taking part in the usual club activities. If you point out how that shit would never fly within group everything Japan, some actually seem to get the international nakamahazure it causes...but more often then not, you get the "that's different" excuse followed by a bunch of horse shit.

[wangta]

So, having a great grandparent from a European country should confer the right to claim citizenship by descent. I'm not so sure about that. I would say there has to be a line drawn somewhere and grandparent seems reasonable.

My ancestors on both sides were FFV's who kept great records so I can trace my heritage back to Scotland through everyone but my maternal Grandmother. I know exactly where my people came from and could probably find plenty of relatives in the UK if I wanted to. Sure we've been in the US since the 17th century by why shouldn't I have the right to a British passport?

I've never understood the mentality of people who think they deserve anything beyond basic civil liberties as a birthright. Though on a philosophical level I think it's fucked up that people can't live wherever they want but practically speaking I don't think we can just throw the borders open.

My point is basically that if you (speaking generally here) advocate for open borders which is what many of the so called 'progressive side' of politics are doing as they say western countries should accept huge movements of ME and Levant (Syria) and African populations into their borders with accompanying residency then citizenship rights, then why not for everybody?

Why do actual immigrants have to meet skills, health and financial criteria when they fill out their visa applications and wait all the while paying significant fees while others can enter under the catch-all 'asylum seeker' category and end up with the same privileges but no contribution to the society that accommodates them? Open borders for everybody is rational, freedom of movement into your ancestral homelands should not be reserved for people from the ME and other countries outside western countries simply because they can use the asylum seeker category to their benefit.

I'd say you should have the right to return to Scotland to live and work if you want. There is nothing illogical about that. Scotland is like other small countries around Europe that face a demographic crisis (Rep of Ireland too) and I would argue those with an ancestral and cultural connection with the homeland are far more likely to contribute to bolstering not only demographics but taxes needed to run the society as well as integrate.

The right of return was actually supposed to be part of the deal when millions of people left their western countries for Canada, NZ, Australia. The British Commonwealth authorities were very selective about who was told they could register their families so future generations had access to the homeland.

I have completely Irish ancestry on my mother's side but an English family name on Dad's. You could register your family at some stage but surprise, surprise, something like 90 percent of the Irish communities in the British Commonwealth didn't know about this provision. Now the Rep of Ireland is facing a demographic crisis and it wouldn't be the case had things been done as they should have.

And no, sorry, I don't think ME etc populations who come through asylum seeking and carry the baggage of their cultures in many cases as well as low social integrative abilities and language skills will provide the UK. Republic of Ireland and European countries with the best answers to demographic, taxation and social integration issues.

[wangta]

There's little free stuff unlike in Oz, and I don't think the Japanese are ready to start kicking out Japanese from their rental homes to make way for 'refugees' the way the lovely German authorities in some cities did to their own.

Citation needed?

If you do a search function for the Telegraph UK there is a very real story about Germans in some places being given eviction notices for their public housing. Something the Guardian, the beloved cheerleader for 'progressive' policies never had but then again they are busy exalting HIllary and until recently ignored Bernie Sanders except to say he couldn't win the Democrats convention.
The Telegraph sometimes has news that won't be covered by others - both conservative and the alternative. You didn't hear about the Lithuanian kid stabbed to death at school in Sweden by a Syrian kid who felt 'dishonoured' because the Lithuanian student stood up for a girl being sexually harassed. In any mainstream paper. This kind of news is forbidden in the Guardian.
Heard it firsthand from a Swede who is sick to death of being labelled right wing if she doesn't agree with the disruption that accepting masses of people from completely different cultures brings.
Her cousin's daughter goes to that school. The Syrian's father defended him because he said his son 'lost face' because of the Lithuanian boy protecting the girl.
The mainstream news only told us about the young woman in Sweden who was stabbed to death by an African 'boy' who turned out per usual to not be of high school age. There are a fair few 'school student' asylum seekers who are nothing of the sort.
Recently I have met a lot of Europeans through a friend. The women especially are good people but they are taking a hiatus at the moment because as they said their towns have been turned upside down by the big influx of mostly male ME/African asylum seekers.

[wagyl]

The right of return was actually supposed to be part of the deal when millions of people left their western countries for Canada, NZ, Australia. The British Commonwealth authorities were very selective about who was told they could register their families so future generations had access to the homeland.

I have completely Irish ancestry on my mother's side but an English family name on Dad's. You could register your family at some stage but surprise, surprise, something like 90 percent of the Irish communities in the British Commonwealth didn't know about this provision. Now the Rep of Ireland is facing a demographic crisis and it wouldn't be the case had things been done as they should have.

So much a secret that I don't know anyone in the New World who was told that they could register their families so future generations had access to the homeland. Especially when you consider that the concept that those in the dominions had a citizenship that was distinct from British citizenship only arose after the Second World War. Prior to that, everyone was a British Subject with comprehensive rights. This needs a cite (and see what constitutes a cite in my comment below). Otherwise it is an extremely well-kept conspiracy.

Wangta if you think people didn't know about the fact that the Irish hand out citizenship and passports to anyone with a grandparent born in either Ireland or Northern Ireland, then you probably also think that everyone in the Anglophone diaspora who wanted easy access to a right to work in Europe did no research. Either that or it is an offensive joke suggesting that Irish are thick and stupid. Also, if you think that Ireland is currently experiencing an aging population mainly because half the population of Boston did not go back, and not mainly because the Celtic Tiger economy collapsed and all the young people with get up and go got up and left, then you have either not experienced the new Irish diaspora in the Anglosphere and in the EU, or you have spent too much time listening to whispers from a leprechaun.

There's little free stuff unlike in Oz, and I don't think the Japanese are ready to start kicking out Japanese from their rental homes to make way for 'refugees' the way the lovely German authorities in some cities did to their own.

Citation needed?

If you do a search function for the Telegraph UK

I don't think you understand how this works.

If you do a search and post the link, people might start to pay a little bit of attention.

[yanpa]

There's little free stuff unlike in Oz, and I don't think the Japanese are ready to start kicking out Japanese from their rental homes to make way for 'refugees' the way the lovely German authorities in some cities did to their own.

Citation needed?

If you do a search function for the Telegraph UK

I don't think you understand how this works.

If you do a search and post the link, people might start to pay a little bit of attention.

Curious, having lived in Germany for many years and being more than familiar with the tenancy and other laws which make it more than unlikely that jackbooted bailiffs will be going round evicting tenants wily-nily, I presume this is the article in question, but not being particularly enamoured of that paper's reporting a bit more research leads to a more nuanced article (albeit in the language of the Merkel). Seems to be one of just two (2) cases, we're not talking about some large-scale mass eviction process, where the lady in question is renting a communal apartment which is much larger than she actually needs, and the commune is well within its rights to terminate the contract while offering a suitable replacement close by; the same thing would have happened if they'd had to find room for a German family. I haven't looked at the other case, but it's probably similar.

Unfortunate and bit of a stupid move by the authorities (and she's well within her rights to be unhappy about it) but not quite as dramatic as wangta seems to suggest.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm still waiting for wangta to connect this to how much Korea sucks.

[kurogane]

While he's at it he could also mention a few reasons why Japan should take refugees, other than the usual. I'm still looking for a good one and I have heard only glowing reviews of the Tottori Boat People.

http://www.rhq.gr.jp/japanese/know/i-nanmin.htm

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A4 ... 3%E6%B0%91

Maybe they're still so busy patting themselves on the back over that one they figure they get a pass on the Syrians?