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Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

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Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:53 am

Lonely Japan.
In 2000, roughly 50% of men and women had a lover. By 2015, 1 in 4. 75% of the population is alone.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby wagyl » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:16 pm

The other interesting data is that in 2000, those without partners were looking for them, whereas in the 2015 data, fewer are on the search (although see caveat below about that).

If we massage the data into "those with a partner or seeking a partner" and "those who don't give a fuck that they don't get a fuck" we have:

2000
Those With a Partner or Seeking a Partner
Male 95.5%
Female 94.0%

Those who Don't Give a Fuck That They Don't Get a Fuck
Male 0.04%
Female 0.06%

2015
Those With a Partner or Seeking a Partner
Male 73.0%
Female 71.4%

Those who Don't Give a Fuck That They Don't Get a Fuck
Male 27.0%
Female 28.6%

The proportion of the population without and seeking remains pretty constant at just under 50%. I think what we might be seeing is a transfer from those who already have partners to those who don't care that they don't.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby matsuki » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:19 pm

In with anecdotal evidence that jives with that....I've met more than a few men and women here who have admitted they have "just given up."
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:04 pm

the fall of the value of women because of the informationized society.
the sensitiveness and fastidiousness about cleanliness of the recent japanese is at the level of disease, which probably is due to the excessive lack of physical contact since their childhood.
the loss of the self-confidence among young japanese guys because of the fall of their economic power and most of them grew up to see their dads had been enslaved and been treated like a filth by their mom.

well, once you get used to solitude you will start to feel comfortable to be alone. and once you learn the comfortableness to be alone you wont want to have a steady partner who always live under the same roof.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:45 pm

And it's cheap. For the money that a wife costs, you can go to the best whore in town once or twice a week. No need for a live-in wife. Unless she is a great cook, though.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby legion » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:52 pm

I think we need a J-Gov poster campaign to solve this problem

Let's give it in a no bid contract to Dentsu

On a serious note, I wonder how the numbers vary from region to region, I get the feeling the country folk are at it hammer and tongs, it's the city folk that would rather queue for ramen on a sunday than sloppy seconds with the waseda rape club
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:48 am

Takechanpoo wrote:the fall of the value of women because of the informationized society.
the sensitiveness and fastidiousness about cleanliness of the recent japanese is at the level of disease, which probably is due to the excessive lack of physical contact since their childhood.
the loss of the self-confidence among young japanese guys because of the fall of their economic power and most of them grew up to see their dads had been enslaved and been treated like a filth by their mom.

well, once you get used to solitude you will start to feel comfortable to be alone. and once you learn the comfortableness to be alone you wont want to have a steady partner who always live under the same roof.


That's really sad....
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby wagyl » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:51 am

legion wrote:On a serious note, I wonder how the numbers vary from region to region, I get the feeling the country folk are at it hammer and tongs, it's the city folk that would rather queue for ramen on a sunday than sloppy seconds with the waseda rape club

I'm not so sure, based on anecdotal evidence and also on widespread reporting of campaigns to try to find brides for agricultural husbands, and the numbers of those who, against familial resistance, eventually settle for the Korean/Thai/Chinese/Philippines manufactured model.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby matsuki » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:18 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
Takechanpoo wrote:the fall of the value of women because of the informationized society.
the sensitiveness and fastidiousness about cleanliness of the recent japanese is at the level of disease, which probably is due to the excessive lack of physical contact since their childhood.
the loss of the self-confidence among young japanese guys because of the fall of their economic power and most of them grew up to see their dads had been enslaved and been treated like a filth by their mom.

well, once you get used to solitude you will start to feel comfortable to be alone. and once you learn the comfortableness to be alone you wont want to have a steady partner who always live under the same roof.


That's really sad....


Indeed, family dynamics fuck people up. You have cases like my boss's son who married his cousin...I introduced him to girls in Tokyo but then he was sent to Kansai for work. He had zero friends there and his younger female cousin thought his line of work was kakkoii and started following him around. Mind you, his father was against it from the start, but the cousin's father "dislikes" his own son and was very fond of his nephew. The guy's parents are much more loving than most families I've seen, and the kid is a real decent guy in all other respects...but there is definitely some weird fucked insular family shit going on because I remember the family joking about how he wasn't mazakon but shisutakon...shared family bathing into their early 20's.....and then with the uncle basically replacing his own son with his nephew. :confused: I won't even dare venture what kind of issues this may cause for the children. (or maybe not, seeing as how many families her tend to not associate with anyone outside their immediate family, save for weddings and funerals)

People, regardless of culture or sex, tend to get set in their ways while living alone....making it harder to compromise lifetstyle/living arrangements with a partner. (the mendokusai effect?)

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legion wrote:On a serious note, I wonder how the numbers vary from region to region, I get the feeling the country folk are at it hammer and tongs, it's the city folk that would rather queue for ramen on a sunday than sloppy seconds with the waseda rape club

I'm not so sure, based on anecdotal evidence and also on widespread reporting of campaigns to try to find brides for agricultural husbands, and the numbers of those who, against familial resistance, eventually settle for the Korean/Thai/Chinese/Philippines manufactured model.


THIS x 9999999

There are tons of forever alone bumpkins in the inaka and a crazy high amount of not super visible kokusaikekkon going on. I can't remember the exact stats but despite the visible non-asian male +Japanese wife couples many picture when they hear kokkusai kekkon, by far the SE Asian woman + Japanese male make up the majority of those marriages.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:34 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
Takechanpoo wrote:the fall of the value of women because of the informationized society.
the sensitiveness and fastidiousness about cleanliness of the recent japanese is at the level of disease, which probably is due to the excessive lack of physical contact since their childhood.
the loss of the self-confidence among young japanese guys because of the fall of their economic power and most of them grew up to see their dads had been enslaved and been treated like a filth by their mom.

well, once you get used to solitude you will start to feel comfortable to be alone. and once you learn the comfortableness to be alone you wont want to have a steady partner who always live under the same roof.


That's really sad....


Or pathetic?
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:41 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
Takechanpoo wrote:the fall of the value of women because of the informationized society.
the sensitiveness and fastidiousness about cleanliness of the recent japanese is at the level of disease, which probably is due to the excessive lack of physical contact since their childhood.
the loss of the self-confidence among young japanese guys because of the fall of their economic power and most of them grew up to see their dads had been enslaved and been treated like a filth by their mom.

well, once you get used to solitude you will start to feel comfortable to be alone. and once you learn the comfortableness to be alone you wont want to have a steady partner who always live under the same roof.


That's really sad....


Or pathetic?

the greater part of the distresses and griefs in life derives from fearing to be alone. conversely speaking, if you get used to be alone and get over it, those distresses and griefs will fade away.
it means that i have stayed several steps ahead of you dudes.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby Coligny » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:05 pm

There is a reason somewhere aboot why alot of things are usually done at least in pairs...

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(Then there is the nuclear strike response Rafale who fly solo every days... but it's not the same game)
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Postby Wage Slave » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:29 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
Takechanpoo wrote:the fall of the value of women because of the informationized society.
the sensitiveness and fastidiousness about cleanliness of the recent japanese is at the level of disease, which probably is due to the excessive lack of physical contact since their childhood.
the loss of the self-confidence among young japanese guys because of the fall of their economic power and most of them grew up to see their dads had been enslaved and been treated like a filth by their mom.

well, once you get used to solitude you will start to feel comfortable to be alone. and once you learn the comfortableness to be alone you wont want to have a steady partner who always live under the same roof.


That's really sad....


Or pathetic?

the greater part of the distresses and griefs in life derives from fearing to be alone. conversely speaking, if you get used to be alone and get over it, those distresses and griefs will fade away.
it means that i have stayed several steps ahead of you dudes.


I have no idea what you could possibly have based that assertion on. Par for the course for you - natch.
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Re: Forever Alone Club Japan ⊙︿⊙

Postby legion » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:33 pm

matsuki wrote:
wagyl wrote:
legion wrote:On a serious note, I wonder how the numbers vary from region to region, I get the feeling the country folk are at it hammer and tongs, it's the city folk that would rather queue for ramen on a sunday than sloppy seconds with the waseda rape club

I'm not so sure, based on anecdotal evidence and also on widespread reporting of campaigns to try to find brides for agricultural husbands, and the numbers of those who, against familial resistance, eventually settle for the Korean/Thai/Chinese/Philippines manufactured model.


THIS x 9999999

There are tons of forever alone bumpkins in the inaka and a crazy high amount of not super visible kokusaikekkon going on. I can't remember the exact stats but despite the visible non-asian male +Japanese wife couples many picture when they hear kokkusai kekkon, by far the SE Asian woman + Japanese male make up the majority of those marriages.


By the numbers the most common international marriages in Japan are between Japanese males and SE Asian females. A lot of these are farmers. I guess the young women from the countryside head off to the big city while the guys tend the farm, so they find themselves a nice sturdy cheerful woman who doesn't mind tugging the daikon and riding in a kei truck.
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Postby legion » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:43 pm

matsuki wrote:...but there is definitely some weird fucked insular family shit going on because I remember the family joking about how he wasn't mazakon but shisutakon...shared family bathing into their early 20's.....and then with the uncle basically replacing his own son with his nephew. :confused: I won't even dare venture what kind of issues this may cause for the children. (or maybe not, seeing as how many families her tend to not associate with anyone outside their immediate family, save for weddings and funerals)




Extreme stereo ....type ......
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