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Issei Sagawa: Celebrity Cannibal

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:38 pm

This article would seem to suggest that despite efforts by the Japanese to keep Sagawa locked up, he is free mainly because of the French Judge who handled his case and France's desire to get rid of their "Celebrity Cannibal".

Then, in 1982, almost two years after the murder of Renee Hartevelt, Judge Bruguieres announced that in his opinion, anybody prepared to kill and eat someone could not possibly be mentally sound. In fact, he declared that such an act constituted insanity. Bruguieres believed that Sagawa had been suffering from advanced “dementia” and ordered him confined indefinitely to the Henri Colin Asylum for the criminally insane. There would be no trial.

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In 1985, the popular French magazine, the Paris Match, obtained the gruesome crime-scene photographs of Renee Hartevelt’s dismembered corpse. Shockingly, there were no qualms at publishing them, a tactless and massively insensitive decision that would lead to the arrest of one journalist and the seizure of a quarter of a million copies of the magazine. This, in conjunction with further publicity that Issei Sagawa’s writings engendered, led to the next twist in the case. The French establishment had had enough of their headline-grabbing cannibal and wanted him out.

Shortly thereafter, Issei Sagawa found himself deported back to Japan
- amazingly as a free man, his return marked by a veritable media-frenzy. Not only was Sagawa a killer and cannibal, he was now a best-selling author. Celebrity, beckoning for some time, was now ready to be adopted by Sagawa.

So as not to cause outrage by simply turning him loose at the airport, Sagawa was first taken to Matsuzawa hospital. There, voluntarily, he submitted to being placed in a private wing of the institution and examined by doctors. No one made him feel welcome. A phalanx of mental health professionals each found him to be sane, stating that sexual perversion alone had led to the murder - in other words, they thought Issei Sagawa was evil. The man, they unanimously agreed, belonged in prison.

Following an attempt to gain pertinent paper work from Judge Bruguieres, which was refused, the Japanese legal system could not pursue Sagawa. He walked free on 12 August 1986, having been contained for just five years.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:31 pm

Hey tinateoh,
you sound like being suspicious of the whole Japanese men.

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Postby amdg » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:22 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:This article would seem to suggest that despite efforts by the Japanese to keep Sagawa locked up, he is free mainly because of the French Judge who handled his case and France's desire to get rid of their "Celebrity Cannibal".


Yep, blame the French - it's all their fault. :rolleyes:

Because he's not crazy, so he doesn't belong in a hospital, he's just evil and therefore belongs in jail.

Excuse me, I'm not a doctor but I have a pretty strong feeling that once you kill someone and then eat them, you ARE 'crazy' and you aren't EVER going back to 'not crazy'. Just my opinion though, so feel free to blame it on the French.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:53 pm

amdg wrote:Yep, blame the French - it's all their fault. :rolleyes:

Because he's not crazy, so he doesn't belong in a hospital, he's just evil and therefore belongs in jail.

Excuse me, I'm not a doctor but I have a pretty strong feeling that once you kill someone and then eat them, you ARE 'crazy' and you aren't EVER going back to 'not crazy'. Just my opinion though, so feel free to blame it on the French.


The common sense meaning of crazy and being too crazy to stand trial are not the same thing. Who knows what the truth is here other than the Japanese and the French both fucked up big time. If it really is true that there was no way to press criminal charges in Japan, they should have made sure he was committed to a high security mental institution for life. Of course I don't what the law in Japan is or was at the time regarding these things.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:19 pm

Speaking of sick-fuck butchers, Canada's favorite serial killer pig farmer was convicted for the second degree murder 6 of his victims.

A guy who picks up six women on six different occassions from the streets of Vancouver, drives them out to the boonies, and cuts them up into little pieces can't get convicted of first degree murder and is eligible for parole in 25 years!?
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Postby Iraira » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:34 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Speaking of sick-fuck butchers, Canada's favorite serial killer pig farmer was convicted for the second degree murder 6 of his victims.

A guy who picks up six women on six different occassions from the streets of Vancouver, drives them out to the boonies, and cuts them up into little pieces can't get convicted of first degree murder and is eligible for parole in 25 years!?


He'll be 77 years old then. Hopefully the hookers will be able to outrun him as he rolls up on them in his wheelchair.
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Postby ttjereth » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:43 pm

Iraira wrote:He'll be 77 years old then. Hopefully the hookers will be able to outrun him as he rolls up on them in his wheelchair.


Hard to outrun a bullet, even if fired from a wheelchair. :(

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Postby Iraira » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:48 pm

ttjereth wrote:Hard to outrun a bullet, even if fired from a wheelchair. :(


Yes, Neo, but when the time comes, you won't have to outrun the bullet....or something to that effect. Maybe someone in jail will do unto him what was done unto Jeffrey Dahmer in jail and save everyone a lot of headache, hassle, and money.
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Postby ttjereth » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:59 pm

Iraira wrote:Yes, Neo, but when the time comes, you won't have to outrun the bullet....or something to that effect. Maybe someone in jail will do unto him what was done unto Jeffrey Dahmer in jail and save everyone a lot of headache, hassle, and money.


On the plus side of things I now have several humorous images in my head of some old coot trying to fire a cannon from a wheelchair.

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Postby Iraira » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:06 am

ttjereth wrote:On the plus side of things I now have several humorous images in my head of some old coot trying to fire a cannon from a wheelchair.


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Postby ttjereth » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:28 am

Iraira wrote:Post them!


Sorry, can't draw to save my life.

Here however is an amusing wheelchair photoshop and a wheelchair motorcycle.

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Postby ttjereth » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:34 am

[s]And because I feel slightly bad about being so off topic:


http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20071211zg.html
'Eikaiwa' firms face Nova fallout

With some actually decent points amongst the usual tripe:[/s]


[s]You keep hearing about needing to make the effort at elementary schools and high schools and that is where it is really going to hurt, because you're not going to get people staying for longer than a few years and actually developing into teachers who can fully function with regards to the needs of Japanese students," Worsley explained. "When you don't have health (insurance) and any benefits, you're never going to keep any long-term teachers. "That makes me think that the government is kind of only paying lip service to the idea of English language education. If they were concerned they would be doing something now to make up for the inaction of the '70s and '80s.
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And still off-topic, posted this in the wrong thread, now moved =P
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18036&page=9

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Postby Buraku » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:22 am

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scotsman.com / JULIAN RYALL IN TOKYO / Sun 18 Jul 2004
UNDER five feet tall and with a head too big for his body, Issei Sagawa makes the most unlikely of cannibals. Stepping inside his apartment, where images of Snow White and Diana, Princess of Wales, are juxtaposed with his own explicit pastel drawings and an extensive collection of pornography, offers a better insight into his twisted mind.
He comes close to tears twice during the two hours it takes to show me his pictures of naked women with slices taken out of their buttocks and thighs. Sagawa, 55, claims that he is lonely and no longer able to earn a living from the notoriety he has dined out on for the past three decades. ...


Anyone recall any of the variety programs or Japanese gameshows he appeared on ?
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue May 04, 2010 11:47 pm

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Postby BULL » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:47 am

An interview with the cannibal himself in Japanese with English subtitles from the "interesting" people at VBS TV. Note, currently there is part 1 and 2.

http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-meets/vbs-meets-issei-sagawa-part-1
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Re: Japanese cannibalized a dutch woman...free today!!

Postby Buraku » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:00 pm

This event in the 80s


Still making the news across the interwebs...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-flesh ... alked-free


There is something kind of shameless about this whole sick event.
I believe on average Japan has a good reputation, I believe in Law and Order and a System but I think this might have been one of those occasions where I would perhaps recommend someone who does things the old Fashioned Pagan Shinto way, let's say a guy who does 'Dirty Laundry' from the Military or some Yakuza guy just came along and put a bullet in this assholes head, would this be a call for death and execution? maybe not in real life... stabbed the cannibal in a video game, taken him for a walk in one of those well known Japan forests where people just wander away, brought him for a swim ... I'm sure there are ways to make him go away....and saved others a lot of misery, saved Japan from all those weirdo morbid perverted shows and kept Japan away from a lot of future embarrassment.

They made a movie about this shit Caniba (2017) doesnt seem like anyone got jutsice for Renée Hartevelt

https://curioustic.com/story-of-japanes ... ei-sagawa/
Story of Japanese Cannibal Issei Sagawa

https://japonik.com/issei-sagawa-le-jap ... integrale/

https://www.buggedspace.com/10-terrifyi ... d-reasons/

https://solvedcrimes.wordpress.com/2020 ... -cannibal/
the13thfloor.tv etc

What we can also take from this whole event is the Dutch and French, ..also the EU as a Legal Powerhouse putting pressure to get fairness and justice done, ain't worth a shit, in front the people France, Holland they get along, but the elite probably truly hate each other, or they hate women enough to not give a shit, a bad reflection on the Japanland justice and Frogistan court system
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Re: Japanese cannibalized a dutch woman...free today!!

Postby Buraku » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:56 am

Hermit crabs getting stuck in tires on the sea floor in 'ghost fishing' that results in cannibalism

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... alism.html

'The Cannibal That Walked Free'

https://www.moviefone.com/movie/the-can ... US13/main/
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Re: Japanese cannibalized a dutch woman...free today!!

Postby Buraku » Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:14 am

Issei Sagawa, who killed woman, ate her flesh in Paris in 1981, dies at 73

https://japantoday.com/category/crime/j ... ies-age-73
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Re: Japanese cannibalized a dutch woman...free today!!

Postby Coligny » Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:00 pm

Did he get to write that recipe book ?
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