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Postby Bucky » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:02 am

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Daisuke Arikado believes the government is too easy on foreigners overstaying their visa and this frustrates him.
Arikado is a former member of an ultra-rightist group who founded and heads the 30-strong nonprofit organization Movement to Eradicate Crimes by Foreigners.

"Some foreigners claim to be political refugees. But in many cases, they just want to work," he said. "Some Japanese died of hunger after they lost their jobs, so is it right to prioritize helping foreigners? Right now, everybody in Japan is losing their spirit as Japanese nationals."
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This guy must have had a bad experience with a FG at some point in his life.

"Arikado . . . heads the 30-strong nonprofit organization Movement to Eradicate Crimes by Foreigners"

Why does the JT give so much coverage to some nut who founded a fringe group that claims only 30 members?
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Postby Behan » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:37 am

Bucky wrote:This guy must have had a bad experience with a FG at some point in his life.


Alright, which one of you FG members did his girlfriend?
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Postby xenomorph42 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:37 am

Behan wrote:Alright, which one of you FG members did his girlfriend?


Hey! How would I know what the ramifications would be!!! :cool:
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Postby Yokohammer » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:10 am

"Movement to Eradicate Crimes by Foreigners"??

Jeez, what a mean, petty, myopic, racist excuse for a "movement" that is!
Might as well just call it "Movement to Eradicate Foreigners."

Do you think he'd mind if foreigners in Japan banded together and formed a group called "Movement to Eradicate Crimes by Japanese"?

Oh wait ... actually, I think there already is one called the "Police Force."
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Postby Greji » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:35 am

Behan wrote:Alright, which one of you FG members did his girlfriend?


I did him first! Does that count?
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:39 am

America has the same anti-immigrant wackos who blame foreigners for crime rates, thinking that they are taking jobs away from local citizens, and are the cause for the downfall of society. But the majority of American people don't take these people seriously, and I can imagine that the same is true in Japan. I guess no matter what country you live in, foreigners always make a good scapegoat. But Japanese people are losing their spirit as Japanese nationals because people like you make turn Japanese nationalism into a racist, xenophobic ideology similar to the American KKK. They think that the only way to be a Japanese nationalist is to hate foreigners and everything foreign related.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:34 am

BO-SENSEI wrote:America has the same anti-immigrant wackos who blame foreigners for crime rates, thinking that they are taking jobs away from local citizens, and are the cause for the downfall of society. But the majority of American people don't take these people seriously ...


Like this typically illogical argument from Bill O'Reilly:

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Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:59 pm

Behan wrote:Alright, which one of you FG members did his girlfriend?

The certain thing is that that one is not you.
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Postby Coligny » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:38 pm

Bucky wrote:Image

:nihonjin:
This guy must have had a bad experience with a FG at some point in his life.

"Arikado . . . heads the 30-strong nonprofit organization Movement to Eradicate Crimes by Foreigners"

Why does the JT give so much coverage to some nut who founded a fringe group that claims only 30 members?



As we say in consulting. It's not because you're not part of the solution that there is no money to be made out of the problem.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:28 pm

I don't think we should even deign to respond to shit like that being spouted in the article.
That the Japan Times believes a 30-strong movement is worthy of so many column inches is just sad.
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Postby Gilligan » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:56 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:America has the same anti-immigrant wackos who blame foreigners for crime rates, thinking that they are taking jobs away from local citizens, and are the cause for the downfall of society. But the majority of American people don't take these people seriously, and I can imagine that the same is true in Japan.


New to Japan, are you Bobo?

BO-SENSEI wrote:I guess no matter what country you live in, foreigners always make a good scapegoat.


You hit that nail on the head, though.
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Postby Ketou » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:34 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:I don't think we should even deign to respond to shit like that being spouted in the article.
That the Japan Times believes a 30-strong movement is worthy of so many column inches is just sad.


Japan Times often prints crap like this to remind the barbarians of their place in society.
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Postby xenomorph42 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:38 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Like this typically illogical argument from Bill O'Reilly:

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Well, Bill usually does NOT make illogical arguments. Being a native of Los Angeles, there is an out of control problem with illegal immigration. I can never understand how is it that liberals always think that we should have open borders and let anyone in regardless of what negativity they had in their past background.
California is waaay out of control when it comes to this issue. Geraldo is very passionate about this as a Hispanic, I understand, he is not in favor of profiling, but if you look at the crime statistics that are perpetrated by many that are illegals, I think you need to be cautious. I think every country does. But when you enter into any country illegal with a crime record and on top of that commit a serious crime and often these guys run back over the border to run from the law and that's okay??
Personally, I am in strong favor of LEGAL immigration I do think it is good for the country, but I don't want people to label me a racist or a bigot just because I want my government to strengthen its borders. This is also an ever growing problem in Europe as well. People should respect the laws and sovereignty of each country and follow the proper procedures for legal immigration and if you listen to Bill, that is always what he advocates. Illegal is the key word that he is talking about!
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Postby xenomorph42 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:16 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:America has the same anti-immigrant wackos who blame foreigners for crime rates, thinking that they are taking jobs away from local citizens, and are the cause for the downfall of society. But the majority of American people don't take these people seriously, and I can imagine that the same is true in Japan. I guess no matter what country you live in, foreigners always make a good scapegoat. But Japanese people are losing their spirit as Japanese nationals because people like you make turn Japanese nationalism into a racist, xenophobic ideology similar to the American KKK. They think that the only way to be a Japanese nationalist is to hate foreigners and everything foreign related.


As you probably already heard the U.S. is a nation of immigrants and for you to generalize a whole population is a bit disingenuous to say the least. Maybe if you are a backward, redneck that never traveled or seen the world might have that kind of an attitude, but for the most part, that is not true. Go to L.A., New York, Florida, Texas. Some of the largest cities and need I remind you who the President is?? Xenophobia is no more rampant in the states than any other country. You will always have "ignant" people. Maybe you need to stop watching those "All in the Family" reruns. Try "the Dukes if Hazard "it's more realistic.:cool:
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Postby wuchan » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:35 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:America has the same anti-immigrant wackos who blame foreigners for crime rates, thinking that they are taking jobs away from local citizens, and are the cause for the downfall of society. But the majority of American people don't take these people seriously, and I can imagine that the same is true in Japan. I guess no matter what country you live in, foreigners always make a good scapegoat. But Japanese people are losing their spirit as Japanese nationals because people like you make turn Japanese nationalism into a racist, xenophobic ideology similar to the American KKK. They think that the only way to be a Japanese nationalist is to hate foreigners and everything foreign related.

Either you are not American or you are from "the middle".

Where I am from the locals are the ones to look out for, the foreigners are usually out to make an honest buck.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:38 pm

xenomorph42 wrote:Well, Bill usually does NOT make illogical arguments. Being a native of Los Angeles, there is an out of control problem with illegal immigration. I can never understand how is it that liberals always think that we should have open borders and let anyone in regardless of what negativity they had in their past background.
California is waaay out of control when it comes to this issue. Geraldo is very passionate about this as a Hispanic, I understand, he is not in favor of profiling, but if you look at the crime statistics that are perpetrated by many that are illegals, I think you need to be cautious. I think every country does. But when you enter into any country illegal with a crime record and on top of that commit a serious crime and often these guys run back over the border to run from the law and that's okay??
Personally, I am in strong favor of LEGAL immigration I do think it is good for the country, but I don't want people to label me a racist or a bigot just because I want my government to strengthen its borders. This is also an ever growing problem in Europe as well. People should respect the laws and sovereignty of each country and follow the proper procedures for legal immigration and if you listen to Bill, that is always what he advocates. Illegal is the key word that he is talking about!


Please, let europe out of this KKK fest. It's only when their is financial crisis that these bulshit raise from the bottom of the pond. Because nowadays, without immigrants, legal or not, their would be no trash collection, no sewer maintenance, no street cleanup. And it also seems that without the Polish people their would not be a single plumber in the whole Union. Illegal immigrants are not here to behave like platoon out of base on a permission day in a remote occupied country. They are here to work and send money to feed their family back home. Often coming from former colonies.
This crap don't fly really far in France because problems mostly comes from French... Muslim French... So now thank to Ben Ladinde the can be singled out without to much complaint for racism... But fact is... they are as French as Jean-Marcel Dupont or Marie-Helene Lapointe... except their name is Mahmoud Al-Swahiri-Bin-Jihad.

And The funniest part of the "fureigner scare" these days in France...
It's Sarkozy that use this scare...
Sarkozy... whose parents are Hungarian immigrants. (that's not a problem)
But they had to run away from Hungaria because they were collaborating with the Nazy and took safe harbour in France. (and there... it's smell kinda rotten...)
Best part for the end... with the laws this asshole is pushing, his own parents would not be allowed to come to live in France...

As he said... "La frances tu l'aimes ou tu la quittes"(*) "France, love it or leave it" and I was quite amused to receive his campaign flyer asking me to vote for him, in my little toyohashi craphole (even, if some still might believe I'm not in japan... but hey, I kept the receipt from the McDo in Osaka, and I posted the outcome picture on Rate-My-Poop the next day...)

(*)yeah he also said memorable stuff like "casse toi pauvre con" ""Fuck off dumbass" to an old grandpa at a farming exhibition. But he was maybe as drunk as after his meeting with the always playfull Vlad Putin...
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:51 pm

Isn't Toyohashi like the weed capital of Japan, with all the activity at the port? I'm starting to see where these posts are coming from.Image
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Postby Iraira » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:33 pm

xenomorph42 wrote:Geraldo is very passionate about this as a Hispanic


He's also half-Jewish...mom was Jewish, dad was Puerto Rican. "Gerald" was also bar mitvah'd.

Useless trivia to dwell on tonight as you lift your 18th beer.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:22 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:Isn't Toyohashi like the weed capital of Japan, with all the activity at the port? I'm starting to see where these posts are coming from.Image


Central Mercedes Benz spare part warehouse - yes
Volkswagen Und Audi Gmbh bridgehead - Yes
Shitload of other boat-imported stuff - Yes
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I would rather think that Hokkaido would have been a better place for illicit traffics. Especially with all the mess in the harbour (check you tube for drifting and toyohashi, seems every bored kid with a Civic or a Skyline go there to burn some rubber)
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Postby xenomorph42 » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:43 am

Iraira wrote:He's also half-Jewish...mom was Jewish, dad was Puerto Rican. "Gerald" was also bar mitvah'd.

Useless trivia to dwell on tonight as you lift your 18th beer.


Thanks bro' for pointing that out. Totally forgot to mention that one. Though you are right, Geraldo loves to let people know about his Jewish ancestry and religious beliefs, but he is very passionate when it comes to Hispanic rights and injustices.

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:31 am

Iraira wrote:He's also half-Jewish...mom was Jewish, dad was Puerto Rican. "Gerald" was also bar mitvah'd.


Yeah, but he's got tattoos, so he can't be a good Jew.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:42 am

xenomorph42 wrote:People should respect the laws and sovereignty of each country and follow the proper procedures for legal immigration and if you listen to Bill, that is always what he advocates.


I'm not taking issue with that. I am taking issue with the argument that illegal immigration is the reason this girl died. Almost everyone in America who drinks drinks and drives. It's a big problem that is in no way made worse by illegal immigrants. Taking a literalist position the way O'Reilly did here only makes you look stupid.

Recent reports of Mexican drug gang violence spilling over into US border towns is a border control issue. A certain percentage of the illegal population committing crimes that are commonly committed by US citizens and legal immigrants is not unless there is evidence that those crimes are committed at a much higher rate. Everything I've read says that isn't the case. So, yeah, tighten border patrol if you want (I personally don't care one way or the other) but don't try to whip people up into an anti-illegal frenzy with anecdotal evidence and exaggeration.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:12 pm

Coligny wrote:Please, let europe out of this KKK fest. It's only when their is financial crisis that these bulshit raise from the bottom of the pond. Because nowadays, without immigrants, legal or not, their would be no trash collection, no sewer maintenance, no street cleanup. And it also seems that without the Polish people their would not be a single plumber in the whole Union. Illegal immigrants are not here to behave like platoon out of base on a permission day in a remote occupied country. They are here to work and send money to feed their family back home. Often coming from former colonies.
This crap don't fly really far in France because problems mostly comes from French... Muslim French... So now thank to Ben Ladinde the can be singled out without to much complaint for racism... But fact is... they are as French as Jean-Marcel Dupont or Marie-Helene Lapointe... except their name is Mahmoud Al-Swahiri-Bin-Jihad.

And The funniest part of the "fureigner scare" these days in France...
It's Sarkozy that use this scare...
Sarkozy... whose parents are Hungarian immigrants. (that's not a problem)
But they had to run away from Hungaria because they were collaborating with the Nazy and took safe harbour in France. (and there... it's smell kinda rotten...)
Best part for the end... with the laws this asshole is pushing, his own parents would not be allowed to come to live in France...

As he said... "La frances tu l'aimes ou tu la quittes"(*) "France, love it or leave it" and I was quite amused to receive his campaign flyer asking me to vote for him, in my little toyohashi craphole (even, if some still might believe I'm not in japan... but hey, I kept the receipt from the McDo in Osaka, and I posted the outcome picture on Rate-My-Poop the next day...)

(*)yeah he also said memorable stuff like "casse toi pauvre con" ""Fuck off dumbass" to an old grandpa at a farming exhibition. But he was maybe as drunk as after his meeting with the always playfull Vlad Putin...


I posted this over in another thread]Here's the situation in reverse. This video is a CCTV recording from a bus in Paris. Li'l hoodie boy and his cohorts, Algerian immigrants, presumably, mug and bitchslap a drunken French guy. They administer the coup de grace at the end when they call the guy a "sale Français" (a "f*cking French").

http://www.miwim.fr/blog/video-buzz-une-agression-dans-un-bus-de-la-ratp-4819

Needless to say, the video is making the rounds amongst anti-immigrant types in Europe. Imagine acting like that with you and your homies on a Japanese bus; they'd have your asses on a plane within hours.[/QUOTE]
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Postby Catoneinutica » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:19 pm

Bucky wrote:Image

:nihonjin:
This guy must have had a bad experience with a FG at some point in his life.

"Arikado . . . heads the 30-strong nonprofit organization Movement to Eradicate Crimes by Foreigners"

Why does the JT give so much coverage to some nut who founded a fringe group that claims only 30 members?


Yeah, waaay back when I subscribed to the JT, I used to notice that they'd periodically print really weird stuff from venomous little cranks like this guy and Hiroaki Sato. They seem to feel that the uyoku point-of-view needs to be given equal time; it'd be like the LA Times printing a "white power" column every Friday.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:28 pm

[quote="Catoneinutica"]I posted this over in another thread]

Me... thinking... that's unpossible...

The 4 aggressors were not all of 'fureigners descent' only the rightwingnuts put emphasize on that side of the problem. Meanwhile, they were all more drunk than a polish sailor and high as a kite. What you say in these case don't usually make sense.

The victim himself came forward to downplay any kind of racism root in his aggression and filled a complaint for the leak of the video.

Leak coming from a cop (presumably fired by the IGS aka "Beef and Carrots" aka police of police) with ties to the extreme right, as a lot of them do. So... what you got here is the perfect instrumentalisation of a -stupid- crime, commited by -stupid- people. In order to fuel racial hateress.

The first reaction in France was not to believe it was a "heinouss racial crime against good french people". Before the public transport company (RATP) aknowledged the origin of the tape everybody was calling it a fake bullshit made for political agenda. They just forgot that in order to make that video the RATP had to be an accomplice. So it's still 50/50.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:37 pm

[quote="Catoneinutica"]Yeah, waaay back when I subscribed to the JT, I used to notice that they'd periodically print really weird stuff from venomous little cranks like this guy and Hiroaki Sato. They seem to feel that the uyoku point-of-view needs to be given equal time]


So it's still 100 times better than the other JT (japan today)
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Postby Catoneinutica » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:38 pm

Coligny wrote:Me... thinking... that's unpossible...

The 4 aggressors were not all of 'fureigners descent' only the rightwingnuts put emphasize on that side of the problem. Meanwhile, they were all more drunk than a polish sailor and high as a kite. What you say in these case don't usually make sense.

The victim himself came forward to downplay any kind of racism root in his aggression and filled a complaint for the leak of the video.

Leak coming from a cop (presumably fired by the IGS aka "Beef and Carrots" aka police of police) with ties to the extreme right, as a lot of them do. So... what you got here is the perfect instrumentalisation of a -stupid- crime, commited by -stupid- people. In order to fuel racial hateress.

The first reaction in France was not to believe it was a "heinouss racial crime against good french people". Before the public transport company (RATP) aknowledged the origin of the tape everybody was calling it a fake bullshit made for political agenda. They just forgot that in order to make that video the RATP had to be an accomplice. So it's still 50/50.


Thanks for the perspective from an authentic Frenchman, Coligny. I have a lot more confidence in the future of secular France than I do that of England, with its nearly-one-hundred-and-counting "sharia" courts, the use of which is doubtless completely voluntary for Muslim women there.
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Postby Buraku » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:57 am

Japan and Korea try to settle wartime labour issue
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Japan, S. Korea discuss wartime labor issue, make little progress
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