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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:17 am

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Postby matsuki » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:48 am

LOL

http://www.avantnews.com/news/38255-fossilized-feces-of-jesus-wreaks-havoc
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:20 am

chokonen888 wrote:LOL
http://www.avantnews.com/news/38255-fossilized-feces-of-jesus-wreaks-havoc


Yes, but does His Holy Fossilized Feces glow in the dark like the Fukushima Phenomenon or Buddha's?
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Postby CrankyBastard » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:24 pm

I wonder if TEPCO were to buy up all the land they've contaminated and covered it with solar panels, they could meet the electricity demand this coming summer.
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Postby damn name » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:43 pm

CrankyBastard wrote:I wonder if TEPCO were to buy up all the land they've contaminated and covered it with solar panels, they could meet the electricity demand this coming summer.


I decided to work out the numbers because I'm sick.

The most efficient solar panels would yield less than 32 kW per acre because of the climate. The area is approximately 628 km² or 130,000 acres, yielding 4,160 MWe of power. That's an unrealistic assumption though, since peripheral equipment would take away about 20% from available area for panels.

That's less than the total output of Fukushima Dai ichi plant (4,696 MWe) and less than 20% of the 21,000 MWe of total generating capacity lost in the event.

The cost would be about 3 trillion yen using a conservative 750,000 yen per kW, not counting the cost of the land.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:40 am

[quote="damn name"]I decided to work out the numbers because I'm sick.

The most efficient solar panels would yield less than 32 kW per acre because of the climate. The area is approximately 628 km²]

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Postby cstaylor » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:05 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Indeed you are sick.

Sick but correct. Moving to solar would require a serious downgrade in the amount of energy we use.
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Postby CrankyBastard » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:12 am

'm not advocating a switch to solar power, just wondering how best to make use of the contaminated area.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:15 am

cstaylor wrote:Sick but correct. Moving to solar would require a serious downgrade in the amount of energy we use.


Devil is in the detail...

moving to a solar only production would require serious downgrade. Solar can still help for peak load especially with aircooling.
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:28 am

Coligny wrote:Devil is in the detail...

moving to a solar only production would require serious downgrade. Solar can still help for peak load especially with aircooling.

It's just the wrong way to go for Japan. Power storage and transport is the main problem that needs solving. Why should Japan need to generate its power here? A solar power station in a large desert could supply all of Japan with the power it needs if transporting it was economically feasible.
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Postby Taka-Okami » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:38 am

Why dont the Japs develop geothermal?

Another option : Solar Towers : 1 km high towers that harness the wind energy generated by the temp differential between the top and bottom.

The biggest problem in solving this is that Japs in general can not think outside the box.
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Postby Yokohammer » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:52 am

Taka-Okami wrote:Why dont the Japs develop geothermal?

Are you kidding? That would take energy away from the country's onsen, possibly cooling them down by about a thousandth of a degree. ;)
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Postby damn name » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:55 am

CrankyBastard wrote:'m not advocating a switch to solar power, just wondering how best to make use of the contaminated area.
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I wasn't taking a shot at your comment at all. Finding some use for that land is a good idea.
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Postby Greji » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:16 pm

Taka-Okami wrote:Why dont the Japs develop geothermal?


The need to make it functional. Something like tying a couple of electrodes to Jirochan and having him do wind sprints in the exclusion zone....
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:34 pm

Taka-Okami wrote:Why dont the Japs develop geothermal?

Another option : Solar Towers : 1 km high towers that harness the wind energy generated by the temp differential between the top and bottom.

The biggest problem in solving this is that Japs in general can not think outside the box.

Geothermal is a dangerous road to travel in a fault zone. It's one thing to tap natural releases for recreational activities like your local onsen, but for real power generation you'd need to siphon off a large amount of heat.

Right now the land we're standing on floats over a sea of magma deep within the earth. Draining and transporting that heat to the surface in a notorious fault-filled zone could produce substantial earthquake effects.

Edit: Oops, I should have read Scientific American before posting: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=geothermal-drilling-earthquakes
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Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:43 pm

cstaylor wrote:Geothermal is a dangerous road to travel in a fault zone. It's one thing to tap natural releases for recreational activities like your local onsen, but for real power generation you'd need to siphon off a large amount of heat.

Right now the land we're standing on floats over a sea of magma deep within the earth. Draining and transporting that heat to the surface in a notorious fault-filled zone could produce substantial earthquake effects.


dood these days, a little more quakes would go unnoticed...

first time in a month that you can see japan outlines on the usgs quake map... before it was all burried under the quake dots...
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:46 pm

Taka-Okami wrote:Why dont the Japs develop geothermal?

From 2009...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/geothermalenergy/4117746/Japan-taps-into-power-of-volcanoes-with-geothermal-energy-plants.html

[SIZE="4"]Japan taps into power of volcanoes with geothermal energy plants[/SIZE]
Japan has announced plans to build its first new geothermal power stations in nearly two decades in a bid to tap the nation's domestic energy sources.
A string of new projects to be started this year include a geothermal power plant to be constructed in Yuzawa in Akita Prefecture, northern Japan, by Mitsubisi Materials and J-Power.

The 40 billion yen project will tap into hot water and steam around 2,000 metres below the surface, and will aim to generate up to 60,000 kW of power when it begins operating in 2016.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry is establishing a study group of industry experts and academics to compile by April this year a list of steps supporting the development of geothermal power stations, with proposed measures including financial assistance to launch new projects.

While it was after the 1970s oil crisis that the nation first began investing in geothermal power stations as an alternative energy source, their development was eventually eclipsed by the rise of nuclear power.

Today, there are currently 18 geothermal power stations in operation in Japan, although there combined output accounts for no more than 0.20 per cent of electricity generated domestically.
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Taka-Okami wrote:Why dont the Japs develop geothermal?



Lots of Shoganai! but I never heard a good answer to this question
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