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Ken Rogoff - Japan: the fallen angel

Postby gkanai » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:55 pm

Japan: the fallen angel | Kenneth Rogoff | guardian.co.uk

Japan: the fallen angel

If you listen to American, European, or even Chinese leaders, Japan is the economic future no one wants. In selling massive stimulus packages and bank bailouts, western leaders told their people: "We must do this or we will end up like Japan, mired in recession and deflation for a decade or more."

Chinese leaders love pointing to Japan as the prime reason not to allow any significant appreciation of their conspicuously undervalued currency. "Western leaders forced Japan to let its currency rise in the second half of the 1980s and look at the disaster that followed."

Yes, nobody wants to be Japan, the fallen angel that went from one of the fastest-growing economies in the world for more than three decades to one that has slowed to a crawl for the last 18 years. No one wants to live with the trauma of the deflation (falling prices) that Japan has repeatedly experienced. No one wants to navigate the precarious government-debt dynamic that Japan faces, with debt levels far above 100% of GDP (even if one factors in the Japanese government's vast holdings of foreign-exchange reserves). No one wants to go from being a world-beater to a poster child for economic stagnation.

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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:23 pm

Basically a long-winded way to say "I don't know what the fuck is going to happen in Japan but as a famous economist I've gotta sound like I know what I'm talking about".
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Postby Yokohammer » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:47 pm

Inconclusive to be sure, but I thought the article contained a few valuable insights.

On the other hand, I disagree with his interpretation of country life as being a sad situation:
Old people have retreated to villages, many growing their own food, their children having long abandoned them for the cities.

In the first place, most old people haven't *retreated* to the villages. They've always been there, and want nothing more than to stay right where they are.
In the second place, growing your own food in the country is a dream for some, and is probably the safest and most comfortable place to be in the current circumstances.

Other than that, good article.
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Postby james » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:16 pm

Yokohammer wrote:In the first place, most old people haven't *retreated* to the villages. They've always been there, and want nothing more than to stay right where they are.


agree 100%. they've been here for a very long time, know no other life nor want anything to do with the cities and are quite happy to stay put. farther from the mark though is this notion that their children have "abandoned" them. the young people leave the countryside in droves for the most part due to a lack of opportunity.
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:56 pm

james wrote:agree 100%. they've been here for a very long time, know no other life nor want anything to do with the cities and are quite happy to stay put. farther from the mark though is this notion that their children have "abandoned" them. the young people leave the countryside in droves for the most part due to a lack of opportunity.

I was riding my bike in the hills today not far from my house and thinking about this. It was lovely where I was riding, dare I say idyllic, and you were only 40 minutes from the middle of Matsuyama but of course the abandoned houses outnumbered the habitable ones. Yet people will commute 2 hours from a dog box in Chiba to downtown Tokyo? I don't get it. Guess I'm just not a city boy.
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Postby james » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:58 pm

Mock Cockpit wrote:I was riding my bike in the hills today not far from my house and thinking about this. It was lovely where I was riding, dare I say idyllic, and you were only 40 minutes from the middle of Matsuyama but of course the abandoned houses outnumbered the habitable ones. Yet people will commute 2 hours from a dog box in Chiba to downtown Tokyo? I don't get it. Guess I'm just not a city boy.


the area i live in is also very nice but the only reason i'm still here is because i've managed to carve a niche as the only native-speaker eikaiwa in the area. were it not for that, there's a good chance i'd have had to leave for the city ages ago. i can't imagine wanting to live in such cramped conditions though, especially with a family.
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Postby nottu » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:11 pm

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Postby Coligny » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:26 pm

Mock Cockpit wrote:I was riding my bike in the hills today not far from my house and thinking about this. It was lovely where I was riding, dare I say idyllic, and you were only 40 minutes from the middle of Matsuyama but of course the abandoned houses outnumbered the habitable ones. Yet people will commute 2 hours from a dog box in Chiba to downtown Tokyo? I don't get it. Guess I'm just not a city boy.



Same here... And I know that when I start hearing duelling banjo I'm really not on the good way for reaching the Drive Thrue McDo... I will never be able to come back to Paris ever or anyother bigcity... (even less Nagoya of course) And I live 10 min by foot from the central train station...
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Postby Yokohammer » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:49 am

You're all a bunch of hicks! ;)

Um ... me too. I'm in a really nice little backwater that's only 30 minutes from Sendai, a city of a little over a million people. It's all here, and I dread the thought of ever having to live in the middle of a big city again.

It might not be for everyone, but now that I'm out I'm stayin' out.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:03 am

As another kappei, I can agree with the sentiments expressed here. Still, it makes the work situation tough, so it seems likely I'll be heading back into the Shitty (as it's termed in the vernacular) fairly soon.
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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:41 pm

[quote="Yokohammer"]You're all a bunch of hicks! ]
I found a fairly good solution to this. I have a house in Osaka city and a cottage on a small island in the Inland Sea. House is in the middle of everything and very convenient. Cottage has absolutely nothing nearby -- there aren't any stores or even vending machines anywhere on the island. Actually, heading out there for the upcoming long weekend and really looking forward to a bit of down time! :)
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Postby dimwit » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:13 pm

FG Lurker wrote:I found a fairly good solution to this. I have a house in Osaka city and a cottage on a small island in the Inland Sea. House is in the middle of everything and very convenient. Cottage has absolutely nothing nearby -- there aren't any stores or even vending machines anywhere on the island. Actually, heading out there for the upcoming long weekend and really looking forward to a bit of down time! :)


Your on Awaji aren't you? I wouldn't really call that place small.
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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:31 pm

dimwit wrote:Your on Awaji aren't you? I wouldn't really call that place small.

Nope, it's a small island off the coast of Okayama. Nothing there at all, and not many people go there. It's about 20minutes by ferry from honshu.
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Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:06 pm

FG Lurker wrote:Nope, it's a small island off the coast of Okayama. Nothing there at all, and not many people go there. It's about 20minutes by ferry from honshu.



This kind of isolation is what I really want to head for...

If there is a shop within reach... I most of the time get distracted pondering wether or not I go out to check on -anything- during the whole day opening time... I start being productive around 8pm... till 4am... not exactly a good schedule for woodworking or whatever other hobby i'm doing... mainly because night shifts at the local hospital are kinda worse than the daily shifts... which are already not exactly wonderfull... You can't die there yet from a splinter, but it's not that far off...
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:54 pm

nottu wrote:Given the current regional tax incentives

I haven't heard about that, got a link?
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:18 pm

nottu wrote:Don't have links but I was reading last year about tax incentives for families. There are also incentives with regard to property valuations and taxation. Japan could be developing a whole lot more with regard to decentralization.
Thanks mate.
Might be some hope out there after all. We'll have to follow this and see if it leads anywhere.
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Re: Ken Rogoff - Japan: the fallen angel

Postby Buraku » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:51 am

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