[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Actually, the Bell Curve is a very well done book by a scholar who examined the facts. Some in the liberal media and others on the left, including some scholars who are on the left have criticized this book vigorously. As well they should. This book stands on the head the assumption that we are all created equal. In fact, we may very well not be. The author of the Bell Curve is not rascist but he has been called rascists by non-thinkers like you who can't throw off the yoke that is called public education. You may not accept it now but as time goes by more unbiased research will be done. Hopefully this work and similar work will challenge us all to rethink our assumptions and accept that what we have been taught may not be true. On the other hand it may be. However, we should all be keeping an open mind.

Your comments are laughable. You are as laughable as the KKK. You have your mind made up and have refused to change. You are a rigid thinker and a bigot.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

In the US might means right???? If that is so Canada would have had it's ass kicked decades ago and you would literally be the 51st state. As it stands you are only figuratively the 51st state.

Might means right????? Ask any Japanese who is old enough to remember how Japan and the Japanese were treated after WWII. You will probably spew some crap about raping American soldiers. There are rapists everywhere but I can't think of a country that you would be better off being conquered by than the US. The typical servicemen handed out hershey bars and a smile to the kids. Many Japanese remember that and are smart enough to know that had things gone the other way America would not have faired nearly as well under the boot of Japan.

It was America that decided that the Tenno should not have his head lopped off after WWII. The Australians wanted this retribution but the US leadership was smart enough to lead without the sword. A more successful occupation has never occured. Never was a defeated nation treated so delicately as Japan was under US control. We don't think might means right you muttonhead. Crack a book for once in your life.


Might makes right!!!! Continue to make an ass out of yourself. You can only think that way because it hasn't been up to your country to do a damn thing in the last fifty years. Who fought communism? America and America alone spilled the blood. You profit from this but you are too young and ignorant to know.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

PS: Let's all just keep in mind that the origin of the thread was Jack's bizarre notion that Americans are in general ignorant. A laughable comment and it is a shame that this man will soon be dragging down Japan's already low national average IQ with his own.

Jack, get a vasectomy.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

The fact the this inflamatory, innaccurate and non-scientific book is cited speaks volumes. This was written with a political (and commercial) agenda in mind rather than as a true unbiased study. It is a, not very thinly veiled, source of ammunition for advocates of divisiveness and controversy. Dare I say it is a racist's attempt to justify their own racism???? .

Ummmm, the other of this non-scientific book is a well regarded Professor of Psychology at HARVARD University.

The scary thing is that already ignorant people read this and become even more ignorant but feel a false sense of superiority and arrogance for having read a "scientific" book but is only adding fuel to myths.

Ummmm, okay, I am glad to be in the ignorant company of Harvard Profs. Maybe one day I will be able to climb the ladder and become as intelligent as a Aussie computer geek residing in Japan with maybe a BA to her name.

Arrogance that is often hiding a deep self loathing combined with the fear that others will recognise ones own putrid flaws.

Your post immediately above is just about as arrogant as it gets girl. I doubt if you even heard of this very well known book. Maybe you should put down the manga. But before you do that make sure you are buckled down safely into your high horse. You might as well have a white sheet over your head. What you spout is swill.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Yeah, thanks for your assist. There are a few groups that you have to leave out of the calculations of America's national IQ if you truly want to make a comparison to those powerhouses of New Zealand and Australia. New Zealand's IQ is surprisingly high. I guess the substantial number of sheep that bring it up. To bad some of those nightly trysts don't produce offspring! That would help bring the numbers up.

Glad you miss the US. We don't miss the likes of you.

PS: Yeah, Australia will be instrumental in sorting Iraq out. Just stay in the back there in the supply chain and maybe you guys will be useful.

[Darkwing]

Leave some groups out.... Why dont you submit a suggestion that during the next study, they should not include anyone in their results with an IQ < 120... Yeah that would work. Or then again, they could just avoid the likes of you.

I guess the substantial number of sheep that bring it up

So you think that the average IQ of a New Zealand sheep is higher than that of your average American. Interesting conclusion but one I would whole heartedly aggree with. Perhaps the reason why NZ lamb is $30 a pound in Jersey

DW

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Well take a guess what groups you should leave out when trying to compare the US to NZ and Aus. Come on. Use your high IQ.

As for sheep being able to pull up the IQs of Kiwis almost anything could do that. Door knobs, push pins, the gum your shoe picked up off the street, etc.

For a more interesting comparison why don't you find out where most of the world's gifted (IQ 130 plus) individuals reside. It is this group (which I am a member of by the way) that really charges the economy.

[Darkwing]

I did work it out but I prefer not to mention it, especially given there are groups within every society that have a lower IQ level.

Apart from that, it seems you have turned toward shameless self promotion... It was not entirely neccessary as I gathered you were perhaps more intelligent than your average NZ door knob, from reading your prior posts in this thread. Still amazing how ignorant someone supposedly as smart as you say you are, can be.
And obviously fairly well read ("IQ and the Wealth of Nations"), full of yourself, probably drive an SUV, and of course on a righteous crusade to educate the rest of us to the greatness that is, America. Good on yeh mate.

BTW...

"50% of the prisoners on death row in Oregon and Washington have IQ's over 130. Another study showed that 17% of the federal penitentary population has a measured IQ of over 130, and that the average IQ of kidnapper is 142."

Seems you are right up there with the best of them.

DW.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Maybe this can even morph into a rational conversation. And, by the way, I don't sponge off books like the Bell Curve to make me feel better than other people. However, when I first read this work it did spark me to think a lot more about the assumptions I was being force fed. From a very early age I always felt something was very wrong with the liberal left and the guilt trip that is laid on successful people and groups.

It is entirely possible that the book is very much the beginning of a new way of thinking about what is the cause of my society's ills. I don't think it is all about IQ, however. I am waiting for more work to be done on the genetic makeup of people who can subordinate their urges and deal with groups because intelligence and subordination of urges it seems to me are the joint forces that make economies run. It would be interesting to see if anything can be identified genetically among different groups that can account for why certain groups have evidenced a greater ability to be part of a group of people working towards whatever goal they have in common. I am not sure that I really believe that races are that much different when it comes to true intelligence and I don't believe IQ tests really capture true intelligence.

But to come back to your post. The stats about criminals being intelligent is right on point. I completely believe that without other anchoring (basically I am talking about religion here) smart people learn from an early age how to game the system and not get caught. I also have found that a lot of smart people really do not have the inability to curb their impulses. This combination can send you straight to the pokey. In college I had a friend who became a freshman at the age of 15. He was outrageously bright. Now he works at a rugby magazine and is completly unable to control his substance abuse issues and people issues and about everything else you need to control to "suceed." At the top and bottom of the food chain you will find a lot of very bright people. I don't think a lot of the bright ones could stomach a life of middle management mediocrity.

Speaking of bright sociopaths how about America's own Bill Clinton. It is pretty clear to me that this man knew how to get around basically everything his fertile mind and probing hands got him into. He, however, was doomed when he failed to adjust to the fact that the entire world was watching him. The type of lies he told with a straight face I have no doubt he was well practiced in. This is a truly classic case of a man who has just become accustomed to being able to dupe the masses by aping the response that he knows they want.

Anyway have a good night!

PS: Thanks for mentioning I am up there with the best of them. Yes! That is true I have the ability to play well with others.

[Darkwing]

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

I will disagree with your take on religion. You are focusing on the exceptions. Religion may allow people to do absolutely crazy things (like murder) or whatever but those are exceptional cases. Far more often than we realize, I believe, religion is what can stop us from lying, cheating, stealing, fornicating, whatever. Even if we are not religious, plenty of religious people have gotten their hands on us (hopefully in a positive way) and the desire to do what is right can stop us from doing what we can get away with. Some people pop a fuse on religion but most of us do not.

Also, on the whole issue of smart people in jail - actually, I said that there are two factors that can tend to land people in jail. Repeating, if you are smart you are probably going to use those brains to your advantage unless you have moral qualms and, since you are smart, you will get away with a lot of things. However, some people just can't control their urges. I have met a lot of smart people who were smart enough to have planned better but got caught because their impulses overpowered their brains. In other words, being smart can send you down the path of taking the easy way out but if you are smart and impulsive you are going to get caught.

Of course another good way to wind up in jail is to be stupid but that is not the topic.

Also, re Bill, I really don't think he was a great President and I think he disgraced the office and the American people. This, I guess, is my religion kicking in. He tried to con the American people in my view and that is unappreciated. I also actually think Bill was worse than other Presidents. Bill became President for the power, the ego, etc. I can't think of another President in my lifetime who was so motivated by personal desires. Before you say Nixon - I disagree. I think he did what he did because he thought he deserved to win and wanted to serve. He got caught too and was not nearly as graceful as Billy in exiting. Bill's absolute grace under fire leads me to believe he is a true sociopath. I think he really is almost capable of anything. Nixon, in contrast, reeked of guilt on the way out. This to me shows he had at least some principles.

[The canaqu]

For a more interesting comparison why don't you find out where most of the world's gifted (IQ 130 plus) individuals reside. It is this group (which I am a member of by the way) that really charges the economy.

Amazing- you are this intelligent, Gai, and all of that intelligence is put to work to complain and talk shit to other people. I could understand if you were raised in a bad environment or something, but if you really have such a high IQ, dignified degrees from prestigious institutions, and consider yourself capable of contributing to civilization.... what the hell are you doing here? For the sake of humanity, please, I mean it, PLEASE go put all that wonderful intelligence to use somewhere. I'd hate to think that I played a part in your great fire of intelligence being lost to the world because you were too busy making fun of people on an internet chat board.....

[GomiGirl]

So Gai, come clean, are you in prison?

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Canuck you were downright neighborly with those comments. At last you recognize my true worth. Much obliges pard-ner (you couldn't hear me but I was prouncing the word partner with a Texas twang (yes, like that dummy George Bush would)).

Alas, my secret is out, I am writing these scorched missives to you all from my white collar prison cell....

Thank God for the liberal system in the US. I should be out in now time and it will be showtime again!

Yippee!!

[GuyJean]

What has Canada ever done for the world?

OK, how boat:

Bob and Doug McKenzie
Jim Carrey
Kids in the Hall
Peter Jennings

They're not so bad.

GJ

Well.. Now Peter's dead..

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/popup?id=1018084



GJ

[American Oyaji]

I never knew Jennings was Canadian.

[Big Booger]

I never knew Jennings was Canadian.

He died an American. RIP PJ

[Buraku]

Trump says he is serious about Canada becoming 51st state
https://japantoday.com/category/world/T ... 51st-state