Could the gov/cia caused this earthquake/tsunami?

[chris56789]

Could our gov/CIA have caused this?

They developed a environmental altering/weather machine called HAARP located in Alaska that could cause hurricanes(two within the a week in Florida before the elections and many more destruction in the past few years all over the world that we've never seen at these quantities AND magnitudes like these), and even a rare 8+ earthquakes and Tsunami in Asia. Here is the evidence, check out several of the links here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=haarp&btnG=Google+Search

What do you think?

[ramchop]

It's all due to global warming and the ozone hole

[jingai]

This is exactly what Michael Crichton was warning about in State of Fear.

[Charles]

What do you think?

I think there are far too many conspiracy nuts in this world.

[chris56789]

What do you think?

I think there are far too many conspiracy nuts in this world.

Not all conspiracies are wrong.

[chris56789]

It's all due to global warming and the ozone hole

That's what they want you to think to take the blame off of them. Don't just read the main haarp page, read the other pages below.

[tatsujin]

Most conspiracies do have some bit of truth behind them, at least in some form or another.

Its usually the fanatical nature of the proponents of these theories that throw most people off. I was highlighted the below site from a really good documentary I saw, scroll down a few lines and read the analysis behind 9/11. I always knew the war was based on spurious grounds but I was genuinely stunned and shocked to read the levels the government went to justify starting it -

http://www.letsroll911.com

Have a read of it with an open mind, its hard to discount the presented facts

[Guile]

It is complete and utter BS. But with that said, within minutes of hearing about the tsunami I said to myself "people are going to start saying that the United States electronically engineered the tsunami to take people's minds off of Iraq."

My anticipation such a bullshit conspiracy is the result of attending the most hippiefied university in Canada.

[mr. sparkle]

http://www.letsroll911.com

Have a read of it with an open mind, its hard to discount the presented facts

Try http://www.letsroll911.org instead.

[chris56789]

Why the gov/cia could be causing these earthquakes/tsunamis/droughts/hurricanes around the world?

Here are your answers:
http://www.mail-archive.com/serbiannewsnetwork@yahoogroups.com/msg00088.html

Please read it first, it's not much reading, then give opinions.

[mr. sparkle]

Any Dave Emory fans out there? He was our resident conspiracy freak when I worked at KFJC - a college radio station in the SF Bay Area. (KFJC is a damn good station, btw. You can stream them from iTunes if ya wanna.)

According to Dave, all evil can be traced to the Free Masons, Nazis and the Mafia. He actually has quite the following though, and his broadcast is carried to a bunch of other non-commercial stations. I love 'dis krapola. Some of it's hilarious, some of it downright thought provoking.

Give a listen here: http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX

"Keep in mind caller..."

Dave Emory is an arch-conspiracy theorist from the San Francisco Bay Area.

He has been associated with other conspiracy theorists like John Judge, most recently of COPA, and the late Mae Brussell. Emory had a long-running radio program on KFJC-FM, Foothill College Radio, in Los Altos Hills, CA, that dealt with all sorts of conspiratorial topics from the hard-line perspective. That program, formerly three hours per week, has now been discontinued. In its place, Emory will prepare one hour of material per week, which will be distributed to various stations, including KFJC.

According to the material supplied for his program, Emory is an antifascist researcher and broadcaster whose programs focus on the historical involvement of the U.S. military and the intelligence community with "international fascism." Subjects for the programs include domestic and foreign political assassinations and "governmental complicity with organized crime and drug smuggling syndicates."

Emory began his research during the Watergate era, when he noted numerous connections between that scandal and the assassination of JFK. While working on the assassination, he discovered "Nazi General Reinhard Gehlen's Eastern front spy apparatus, and its incorporation into the CIA after World War II." This led him into studying the origins of fascism and its influence on the contemporary world.

I just read that his regular 3 hour a week show on KFJC is finally over after years and years of doing that, but he does a weekly taped show on KKUP, KFJC and WFMU. So if you're a rabid anti-fascist, Bush hater, conspiracy theorist type, or just want a good laugh...you just may enjoy his tapes:

http://spitfirelist.com/

Also check Dave's Reading List


Master Control KFJC

Dave haters here.

[vince]

Could our gov/CIA have caused global warming and the ozone hole?

[chris56789]

Could our gov/CIA have caused global warming and the ozone hole?

Nah, they didn't have to, Bush's environmental policies helped to do that, plus most people know he doesn't care about global warming, even the conservatives think global warming is a conspiracy theory.

Bush would drill holes in our ozone if he thought their was oil up there.

[Andocrates]

Earthquakes are not related to ozone, they are massive on such a scale that man is insignificant. Mother Nature will wake up one day and realize there's a tick on her belly and that will be the end of it.

[Akisa]

The past USA presidential election and the preceeding presidential election used Religious "issues" and morality to distract Americans from the real concerns and ideas. Is it really so terrible if gays get married? Is stopping gay marriage worth allowing your country to gain so much more control of it's citizens and scare them into attacking other countries? I guess hurricanes and eathquakes can be used in the same way. [/quote]

[DJEB]

My anticipation [sic] such a bullshit conspiracy is the result of attending the most hippiefied university in Canada.

Well that's nice. Someone posts a fatuous conspiracy theory and you use it as an attack against Canada. Perhaps this is a case where we can judge someone by their avatar.

[dimwit]

Why do natural disasters seem to attract conspiracy wingnuts the way bug zappers attract moths? First AUM or Panawave or whatever and now this. I'm waiting for people to start blaming Bush for the earthquake.

[Skankster]

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I hate conspiricy theories so please allow me to change the subject...

What ever happened to Diego Garcia (US military base on a small island halfway between India and indonesia)
WAS IT TOTALLED?!?!?!

[Skankster]

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How Could A US Military Base Near The Sumatra Earthquake Go Unaffected?

http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Diego%20Garcia%22&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wn

[Skankster]

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U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean

Well I think there might be a point there!

[Andocrates]

This thread is lame.

This thread is lame. I miss blaming everything on the ILLUMINATI and the Freemasons.

And remember that bet we made, when Brother M* said he could make anything an object of fear and superstition and then to prove it he picked Harry Potter?

Anyway, 666 and all that.

[Guile]

My anticipation [sic] such a bullshit conspiracy is the result of attending the most hippiefied university in Canada.

Well that's nice. Someone posts a fatuous conspiracy theory and you use it as an attack against Canada. Perhaps this is a case where we can judge someone by their avatar.

Yes, I am attacking my own country.

[Buraku]

The Central-Idiot-Agency are a bunch of fu cken right wing dorks that can't even locate WMDs, track Taliban terrorists or keep their stocks of Anthrax in check ( just take a sniff all that bio terror in the US postal system )

Whoever came up with this CIA Tidal wave conspiracy theory is fuc king stupid

Some people have made a good point about why US sites/bases never got wiped out by the waves. Well I imagine they got hit but not even a fraction as badly....why ?
Because throughout history the people who built military-forts and bases usually built them on good land and higher ground, its an important feature in most bases today, plus if you look at the history of colonies or bases from the British/Spanish fleets or the USA in Guam, Philippines the Western military with their ships and guns usually got to choose the best site for their base

Historical base and castle remains

http://whc.unesco.org/sites/images/910g.jpg
http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/Dan-Euro/481r.jpg
http://www.imagicwonders.com/galleries/artifice/britain/images/Edinburgh%20Castle.jpg

commoners or fked locals had to live down below

[dimwit]

This thread is lame.

This thread is lame. I miss blaming everything on the ILLUMINATI and the Freemasons.

And remember that bet we made, when Brother M* said he could make anything an object of fear and superstition and then to prove it he picked Harry Potter?

Anyway, 666 and all that.

Illuminati and Freemasons Pshaw! EVERYONE knows the tsunami was caused by the Bilderberg Group who BTW are also responsible for the AIDS epidemic.

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/the_aids_conspiracy/coopaids.html

[jingai]

Lies, all lies.
The US Republican party did it to get back at the Democrats for losing the election. They tricked the Dept. of Defense under the guise of testing to set off nuclear explosions inside the underwater volcano which led to the eruption and tidal wave. They then are using this as an excuse to spend all of the taxpayer money left so they can cut social programs and privatize social security.

[chris56789]

Lies, all lies.
The US Republican party did it to get back at the Democrats for losing the election. They tricked the Dept. of Defense under the guise of testing to set off nuclear explosions inside the underwater volcano which led to the eruption and tidal wave. They then are using this as an excuse to spend all of the taxpayer money left so they can cut social programs and privatize social security.

Most of it makes sense to me.

[chris56789]

Whoever came up with this CIA Tidal wave conspiracy theory is fuc king stupid

I'm not saying Haarp or the gov/cia actually did this, I don't really know, but all i got to say is thnk about this.....

if your ancestors was riding horses across the plains of the old west, and someone came up to them and said, "Their wil be tv sets that can transmit images and sound through the air and cables into homes all over the world, and computers that can send info in seconds from one country to another, and instead of pistols, we'd have missiles that can travel thousands of miles, and a bomb called 'Atom' and 'nuclear' that could wipe out masses of people," they would have called that person crazy.

Our ancestors could never imagine the world we live in today. Are you making the same mistake as they did today in underestimating what lies in store for us tomorrow?

[kurohinge1]

It's all due to global warming and the ozone hole

Don't underestimate the power of Mochi

It could be taking its annual killing spree to a whole new level.

[GuyJean]

Why do natural disasters seem to attract conspiracy wingnuts ?

You mean wingnuts like Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen?
DoD News Briefing
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/1997/t042897_t0428coh.html

There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races]Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.[/b]

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.

Interesting that when someone from government talks about the possibilities of terrorism, it's 'real'. But anyone questioning government of the same policies terrorists 'realistically' could use, they're wingnut conspiracy freaks..

This article is from 97; Earlier, I surfed through a site that had a patent applied by the US to alter weather through electromagnetic waves.. (Can't find it now though, damnit!)

What if we learned what was possible against us in 97, perfected the process, and used it during our 'fundamentalist' periods? Nah.. Never happen. History shows fundamentalism is never that extreme..

GJ

[DJEB]

Whoever came up with this CIA Tidal wave conspiracy theory is fuc king stupid

I'm not saying Haarp or the gov/cia actually did this, I don't really know, but all i got to say is thnk about this.....

if your ancestors was riding horses across the plains of the old west, and someone came up to them and said, "Their wil be tv sets that can transmit images and sound through the air and cables into homes all over the world, and computers that can send info in seconds from one country to another, and instead of pistols, we'd have missiles that can travel thousands of miles, and a bomb called 'Atom' and 'nuclear' that could wipe out masses of people," they would have called that person crazy.

Our ancestors could never imagine the world we live in today. Are you making the same mistake as they did today in underestimating what lies in store for us tomorrow?

That was a fascinating non sequitur.

At any rate, the answer to the question posed in the title of this thread is "no."

Yes, I am attacking my own country.

Sorry. Sounded to me like you were. What is "the most hippiefied university in Canada"? Brock? Mc Gill? If it's neither one of those, where do they rank? You might have to consult Macleans.