North Korea admits to having nukes - SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!

[ichigo partygirl]

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1660254,00.html

South Korea - North Korea publicly admitted on Thursday for the first time that the country has nuclear weapons, and said it wouldn't return to six-nation talks aimed at getting it to abandon its nuclear ambitions.

"We had already taken the resolute action of pulling out of the (Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty) and have manufactured nukes for self-defence to cope with the Bush administration's evermore undisguised policy to isolate and stifle the DPRK,"......

Wow big shock!!!
Still thats not good news...........maybe they are next on the list!

[FG Lurker]

Wow big shock!!!
Still thats not good news...........maybe they are next on the list!

If the US attacks and fucks it up NK will lob a nuke or two at Tokyo and maybe Seoul. If the US doesn't attack then every fucked up country in the world knows they should get nukes ASAP to avoid being invaded by the US.

(Yep, I know that prevailing winds will carry nuclear fallout from Tokyo back towards Korea. I just don't think Kim is gonna be too worried about it with the American military thumbing on his door.)

PS Welcome back to the board ichigo partygirl! Got the password thing sorted?

[AssKissinger]

It's been threaded here a billion times already but until I see the test shroom going blooey on CNN it's just a lot of talk. Although they probably do have them. Or at least paper cut out missiles that look real and very scary.

[ichigo partygirl]

Thanks FG Lurker finally sorted out - its good to be back.
I know its been talked bout before - but the fact they have pulled complelty out of the talks, which had actually showed some progress is rather sad. And im slightly worried bout the small bit of sea between Japan and NK!!! - Maybe the Japanese beating them in soccer will be a catalyst for war!

[FG Lurker]

It's been threaded here a billion times already but until I see the test shroom going blooey on CNN it's just a lot of talk. Although they probably do have them. Or at least paper cut out missiles that look real and very scary.

It's been generally accepted for awhile that they had all the necessary parts:

1. Missiles -- they test fired one *over* Japan a few years ago. They have also been selling missile tech to other f'd countries -- Libya and probably Iraq.
   
2. Nuclear material of a type that could be relatively easily reprocessed into bomb material -- this was stored in a location that was monitored by international inspectors. NK booted out the inspectors and tore down the cameras. There have since been sattelite shots showing large trucks coming and going from this facility.
   
3. Know-how. It's not that hard for a good scientist to develop a workable nuke. No harder than developing a rocket that could, say, fly over Japan from NK.

While they have not actually tested a weapon they may do so now that they've openly admitted to having them.

[ichigo partygirl]

Thats the scary thing. Now they have told the world this - they may feel the need to show their wonderful work off. Even more scary is what response will come from the rest of the world if, and when they test them??
hey my prem member shield is gone! i just notcied. Ive been demoted!!

[vir-jin]

Thats the scary thing. Now they have told the world this - they may feel the need to show their wonderful work off. Even more scary is what response will come from the rest of the world if, and when they test them??
hey my prem member shield is gone! i just notcied. Ive been demoted!!

I deal my pm shield for your strawberry milk.

[Oradea]

Who really gives a toss that NK have nukes?(or not).
The french have 'em, and no one seems to concerned about that.

Anyway, there's a bigger chance of being hit by a car tomorrow, than getting a nuclear explosion all over your suit.

[FG Lurker]

Who really gives a toss that NK have nukes?(or not).
The french have 'em, and no one seems to concerned about that.

France is a relatively stable country and is not lead by a man of questionable sanity or at least mental stability. They also don't vehemently hate any of their direct neighbors.

Anyway, there's a bigger chance of being hit by a car tomorrow, than getting a nuclear explosion all over your suit.

Yes, you are probably right. On the other hand there is a pretty major difference between one person getting hit by a car and a whole city being taken out by a nutcase with nukes.

[This is a pen]

its time for the US to take them out. asap!

I think we need to give them love and try to understand why they are so angry with us, and then I am sure they will change their evil ways.

[AlbertSiegel]

Who really gives a toss that NK have nukes?(or not).

France is a relatively stable country and is not lead by a man of questionable sanity or at least mental stability. They also don't vehemently hate any of their direct neighbors.

It's a good thing that the United States does not fit that description in any way.

[AssKissinger]

link

North Korea Demands Two-Way Talks, U.S. Refuses

This is something Bush and Kerry debated about. Kerry seemed to know NK was going to drop out of the six way talks. Bush is right not to do this. It's just a trap to alienate America from the other four nations who would then be left out. I'm surprised to see America have the good sense to stay out of something.

[This is a pen]

link

North Korea Demands Two-Way Talks, U.S. Refuses

This is something Bush and Kerry debated about. Kerry seemed to know NK was going to drop out of the six way talks. Bush is right not to do this. It's just a trap to alienate America from the other four nations who would then be left out. I'm surprised to see America have the good sense to stay out of something.

I agree....but Just wait, it's only a matter of time until some Left Wing Liberal guy will start to complain about how we are not getting involved enough and that people are starving and why isn't America doing more, and how America does not care about the rest of the world, Bla Bla bla etc. etc.???

We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.

[Pencilslave]

Wow big shock!!!
Still thats not good news...........maybe they are next on the list!

If the US attacks and fucks it up NK will lob a nuke or two at Tokyo and maybe Seoul. If the US doesn't attack then every fucked up country in the world knows they should get nukes ASAP to avoid being invaded by the US.

(Yep, I know that prevailing winds will carry nuclear fallout from Tokyo back towards Korea. I just don't think Kim is gonna be too worried about it with the American military thumbing on his door.)

I admit to not knowing much about world politics, but here goes. I'm thinking that even if North Korea does have nukes, lil Kim isn't stupid enough to use them. Reason being, if he did, China would see North Korea as an immediate threat and stomp a mudhole in their asses.

[Big Booger]

Do you think "Team America" had anything to do with this decision to announce? I wonder...

[ichigo partygirl]

That movie was some funny ass shit. Bout maybe a little too close for comfort.........

I agree with Pencilslave about the china thing. Its slightly scary though - after what most of us have learnt about NK it is hard to know how far removed from reality the dear leader is. He could be so inflated with his own brilliance that he cant see beyond that - who is going to tell him he is wrong??

[AssKissinger]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050213/ap_on_re_as/china_us_nkorea

China Says It Will Seek North Korea Talks

By STEPHANIE HOO, Associated Press Writer

BEIJING - China has told the United States it will push for a new round of six-nation talks on the North Korean nuclear standoff and would be in contact with Pyongyang and other countries involved, the government said Sunday.

Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing spoke by phone with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Saturday night and told her Beijing stands firm in supporting a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula, the ministry said in a statement.

Cool let China deal with it. I say two way talks: China and NK.

[Big Booger]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050213/ap_on_re_as/china_us_nkorea

China Says It Will Seek North Korea Talks

By STEPHANIE HOO, Associated Press Writer

BEIJING - China has told the United States it will push for a new round of six-nation talks on the North Korean nuclear standoff and would be in contact with Pyongyang and other countries involved, the government said Sunday.

Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing spoke by phone with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Saturday night and told her Beijing stands firm in supporting a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula, the ministry said in a statement.

Cool let China deal with it. I say two way talks: China and NK.

China could end this with one threat to NK, and no country would say a word about it.

If the US tried that they'd be fried.

[AssKissinger]

The whole world has such a hard on for hating America it doesn't matter what we do. I say pass the ball to China and try to convince the world China's number one now. Let them sit on top of the shit heap so everyone can throw stones at them instead.

[cstaylor]

If the US doesn't attack then every fucked up country in the world knows they should get nukes ASAP to avoid being invaded by the US.

That's the benefit of joining the nuclear club. The downside is that other countries are justified in using nukes against you during armed conflict. Border skirmishes (like India and Pakistan in Kashmir) take on an entirely new dynamic once both countries went nuclear.

[FG Lurker]

If the US doesn't attack then every fucked up country in the world knows they should get nukes ASAP to avoid being invaded by the US.

That's the benefit of joining the nuclear club. The downside is that other countries are justified in using nukes against you during armed conflict. Border skirmishes (like India and Pakistan in Kashmir) take on an entirely new dynamic once both countries went nuclear.

Actually it was me who said that, not Pencilslave... He/she goofed on the use of the quote feature.

[Kuang_Grade]

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/international/international-korea-north.html?pagewanted=print&position=

Seoul Doubts N.Korea Has Nukes, Despite Claim
By REUTERS

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea's top policymaker on North Korea said Monday North Korea's claim to have nuclear weapons was unproven and Seoul's controversial engagement policy with the North would remain, at least for now.

North Korea explicitly said for the first time last Thursday that it had atomic weapons. The reclusive communist state also said it was pulling out of six-party talks aimed at ending a two-year impasse over its nuclear programs because of what it called U.S. hostility. ``There is no doubt that North Korea has 10 to 14 kg (22 to 31 pounds) of plutonium, but there is no evidence that the North has turned it into plutonium bombs,'' Minister of Unification Chung Dong-young told parliament Monday.

``We see it as a claim to own nuclear weapons, not an official statement of being a nuclear weapons state,'' he said.

Chung also heads South Korea's National Security Council, which advises President Roh Moo-hyun.

It looks like Korea is catching up to Japan in the nuanced double talk department.

[FG Lurker]

China Is Key to N. Korea Nuclear Talks, Japan's Machimura Says
Bloomberg.com, February 17, 2005

Feb. 17 (Bloomberg) -- China's influence over North Korea will be the key to quickly restarting talks on dismantling the communist nation's nuclear weapons program, Japan's Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura said.

``China has the historical and economic ties, and is politically close to North Korea,'' Machimura said in an interview in Tokyo yesterday. A delegation will travel to Pyongyang as early as the weekend and will tell North Korea that ``China, Japan and the U.S. stand together,'' he said.

North Korea's government on Feb. 10 said it had nuclear bombs and pulled out of talks with Japan, the U.S., South Korea, China and Russia on dismantling its weapons program.

(Full Story)

[FG Lurker]

Japan tests North Korea sanctions waters
Asia Times, March 3, 2005

TOKYO - Japan has imposed what amount to maritime sanctions against North Korea by requiring that all ships - not only North Korean - must carry hefty insurance against oil spills and other liabilities, and most of Pyongyang's ships do not buy that costly coverage. Japan has started random checks of ships of various nationalities entering Japanese waters.

(Full Story)

[FG Lurker]

Looks like NK has already found a way around the new rule...

Japan upset over NZ link to insurer
stuff.co.nz, March 3, 2005

The Japanese Government has asked for an inquiry into a mysterious New Zealand insurer, who is allowing ships from rogue state North Korea to beat a shipping clampdown.

New Zealand officials have told the Japanese that nothing can be done, because the insurer is not subject to New Zealand law.

(Full Story)

[FG Lurker]

North Korea warns Japan against sanctions
The Globe and Mail, May 21, 2005

North Korea said yesterday its relations with Japan were inching toward a "dangerous phase of explosion" and reiterated that Tokyo imposing sanctions would be tantamount to declaring war.

[...]

"Under this situation the DPRK is left with no option but to take a decisive countermeasure.

"The army and the people of the DPRK value its sovereignty as their life and soul and will never allow anyone to infringe upon it," said a North Korean statement, carried by Pyongyang's KCNA.

(Full Story)

[Buraku]

North Korea warns Japan against sanctions
The Globe and Mail, May 21, 2005

North Korea said yesterday its relations with Japan were inching toward a "dangerous phase of explosion" and reiterated that Tokyo imposing sanctions would be tantamount to declaring war.

[...]

"Under this situation the DPRK is left with no option but to take a decisive countermeasure.

"The army and the people of the DPRK value its sovereignty as their life and soul and will never allow anyone to infringe upon it," said a North Korean statement, carried by Pyongyang's KCNA.

(Full Story)

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[FG Lurker]

the wonderful world of nukes

one of these images is fake, spot the dud ?

It'd be a helluva lot easier to look at the images if you put them up with "img" tags...

[Buraku]

the wonderful world of nukes

one of these images is fake, spot the dud ?

It'd be a helluva lot easier to look at the images if you put them up with "img" tags...

just thought I'd be kind to those with slow computers

there are a heck of a load of images there, and there are still many folks in the Westren world and Japan that don't have a quick connection
so I thought I'd be kind to those with a telephone dial up or whatever its called

Don't worry I'll put the 'img' tags in my posts from now on

[FG Lurker]

Don't worry I'll put the 'img' tags in my posts from now on

I just don't think that anyone will take the time to open all the images... Kinda kills any hope of a conversation about them.