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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:28 pm

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Kyodo via Japan Today: Aso calls Japan 'one race' nation
Internal Affairs and Communications Minister Taro Aso has called Japan a "one race" nation, an expression similar to a controversial one made in 1986 by then Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone, sources close to him said Monday. Aso described Japan as having "one nation, one civilization, one language, one culture and one race. It is nowhere else in other nations," in a speech during an opening ceremony Saturday of the Kyushu National Museum in Dazaifu, Fukuoka Prefecture, they said. Nakasone incurred criticism from the indigenous Ainu people living chiefly in Hokkaido.
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Postby cstaylor » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:32 pm

For those of you who live in the countryside, Aso's comments concerning "language" are certainly wrong. My wife needs subtitles when her father talks with his brother in Kagoshima over the phone. :wink:
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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:42 pm

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[...]Aso described Japan as having "one nation, one civilization, one language, one culture and one race. It is nowhere else in other nations,"[...]

Hmm, sounds to me like he just described Japan as a nation of backwards inbreeds who can't communicate with the outside world. Yeah, there are days I would agree with that. ;)
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Postby American Oyaji » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:48 pm

cstaylor wrote:For those of you who live in the countryside, Aso's comments concerning "language" are certainly wrong. My wife needs subtitles when her father talks with his brother in Kagoshima over the phone. :wink:


INDEED. I agree with you CS.
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Postby blackcat » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:06 am

yeah kanji is very original!! :lol:

just a nationality that are totally up themselves.

"Hmm, sounds to me like he just described Japan as a nation of backwards inbreeds who can't communicate with the outside world. Yeah, there are days I would agree with that. "

me too 365 in fact
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Postby jingai » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:24 am

One nation, one people, one leader.

Where have I heard that before?
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Postby Tsuru » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:02 am

jingai wrote:One nation, one people, one leader.

Where have I heard that before?
First thing on my mind when I read it.

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Postby Reddeville » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:35 pm

Just another example of how the Japanese make themselves laughing stocks by having ignoramus racists grab the news. Blinky (who many Japanese I`ve met don`t seem to realise is viewed outside of Japan as an irrelevant, senile dementia ridden sadass) and now Arsehole, sorry Aso.

His speech gave fucked gaijin and those around the world who bothered reading the news item if it was reported on in the first place, bellyfuls of mocking laughter. It certainly gave me a good laugh. Especially that `We Japanese are unique - we even have one way of parking our cars.`

You sure, do, dumbasses, you sure do. I`ve never seen so many examples of absolute jerk drivers and parkers in any part of the world as I have in Japan.

Yep, that usual double parking certainly seems second nature to the Japanese as does that parking on a busy, narrow, major street when some inbred who doesn`t know his head from his asshole parks right in the path of incoming buses.

In normal countries, unpopulated by an inbred, mongrelized mix of Mongolian/Chinese/Korean lefotvers that is the `unique Japanese race`, those assholes get hit by fines and if they are not in the car, get their car towed away.

The Japanese sure are unique with their sheer selfishness and fuck you attitude to everybody whose not in their `in group`. Fuck, what unique people they are!
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Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:03 am

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Kyodo via Japan Today: Aso calls Japan 'one race' nation
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Aso complains of his words not getting through
Kyodo, February 25, 2006
TOKYO---
Foreign Minister Taro Aso complained Saturday that the "true intent" of his words is not being understood, in reference to criticism over various remarks he has made on sensitive issues concerning Japan's relations with its Asian neighbors.
"It has been four months since I was appointed foreign minister but it has been difficult to get the true intent of my comments understood," he said in a speech in Yokohama.
"Isn't it time to speak openly and without hesitation about Japan's values and thoughts as 60 years have passed (since the end of World War II)? But I've found it difficult to get what I want to say understood," Aso said....more...:rofl:
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Postby Pencilslave » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:29 pm

cstaylor wrote:For those of you who live in the countryside, Aso's comments concerning "language" are certainly wrong. My wife needs subtitles when her father talks with his brother in Kagoshima over the phone. :wink:


Oh damn.... And now I'm worried. It's bad enough that standard Tokyo dialect is hard to learn, but even the Japanese have trouble understanding those from another region? Any suggestions for dealing with this if I decide to take any side trips from Tokyo when I come to visit?
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Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:35 pm

Pencilslave wrote:Oh damn.... And now I'm worried. It's bad enough that standard Tokyo dialect is hard to learn, but even the Japanese have trouble understanding those from another region?

No sweat. Except very old farts, most Japanese can switch to standard Tokyo dialect. The truely impossible Japanese dialects are as rare as Gullah or Cajun and just as entertaining.:p
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:31 pm

Taro Aso has an opinion piece in today's WSJ (no link). Some excerpts:

I am positive on China...I can assure our friends in China that Japan is committed to China's success...Imagine, in 20 year's time, China's influence in Japan will be enormous. Chinese holidaymakers, from students to the retired, will be the largest consumers of Japanese tourism. Tokyo's taxi drivers will speak Chinese, not English. China will be one of the largest investors in Japan's economy. A considerable proportion of the shares traded in Tokyo will rest in Chinese hands...
...Crucially, China can learn from Japan's missteps - we have "been there done that". Japan has experienced extreme nationalism twice in the last century. A telling incident occurred in 1964, shortly before the opening of the Tokyo Olympic Games, when a Japanese teenager stabbed Edwin O. Reischauer, then American Ambassador to Japan. At the time, Japanese emotions still ran high at the thought of U.S. power and influence. Beijing's leaders can learn from such Japanese experiences to better manage their own rising nationalism...
...A final reflection on Japan's post-war record.: I can say with confidence that with few exceptions, Japan has conducted itself openly and treated neighbouring nations as peers. As a self-proclaimed "techie", I have often called the attitude that Japan has shown toward its neigbouring nations one of "P2P" or peer-to-peer relations.
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Postby American Oyaji » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:53 am

Is this guy bipolar or a schill for the Chinese?
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:52 am

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Japan's next prime minister?
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AMPONTAN - June 12th, 2007
WANT TO TAKE BETS on who's going to be Japan's next prime minister? I just might put my money on Foreign Minister Taro Aso.
That's not because of my political acumen or any inside information. I simply picked up the newspaper this morning and saw the advertisement at the bottom of page two. Aso has just released a book, titled Totetsumonai Nihon. (Translation off the top of my head: Japan the Tremendous, though there are several other possibilities.)
Aso has at least one thing in common with current office-holder Shinzo Abe: they are the grandsons of former prime ministers...more...
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Re: Taro's Nihonjinron Rant

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:31 pm

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Taro Aso: Japan Finance Minister’s ‘Weimar Constitution’ Comment Draws Fire
Wallstreet Journal blog | July 31, 2013
Finance Minister Taro Aso has come under fire for comments that some listeners interpreted as suggesting Tokyo should look to Nazi Germany as a model in changing its pacifist constitution...
....During a Tokyo speech Monday, Mr. Aso — who also serves as deputy prime minister and was once prime minister — said Japan should learn how Germany’s constitution under the Weimar Republic was transformed by the Nazis before anybody realized what was happening.
“Germany’s Weimar Constitution was changed before anyone noticed. It was changed before anyone was aware. Why don’t we learn from that technique,” Japanese media quoted Mr. Aso as saying. The comments were confirmed by his office...more...



The original Japanese statement by the Aso and translation notes:
http://www.nippon.com/en/from-staff/whe ... le-listen/
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:39 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
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Taro Aso: Japan Finance Minister’s ‘Weimar Constitution’ Comment Draws Fire
Wallstreet Journal blog | July 31, 2013
Finance Minister Taro Aso has come under fire for comments that some listeners interpreted as suggesting Tokyo should look to Nazi Germany as a model in changing its pacifist constitution...
....During a Tokyo speech Monday, Mr. Aso — who also serves as deputy prime minister and was once prime minister — said Japan should learn how Germany’s constitution under the Weimar Republic was transformed by the Nazis before anybody realized what was happening.
“Germany’s Weimar Constitution was changed before anyone noticed. It was changed before anyone was aware. Why don’t we learn from that technique,” Japanese media quoted Mr. Aso as saying. The comments were confirmed by his office...more...



The original Japanese statement by the Aso and translation notes:
http://www.nippon.com/en/from-staff/whe ... le-listen/


Maybe revising the Cuntstitution would permit his family to use gaijin slave labor again? (And it's to make cement, too, making such a move doubly attractive!)
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Re: Taro's Nihonjinron Rant

Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:51 pm

I would say that this guy is the foot-in-mouth Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin of Japanese politics all rolled into one, except that he's more evil.

Maybe this applies to Japan as well.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:09 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
The original Japanese statement by the Aso and translation notes:
http://www.nippon.com/en/from-staff/whe ... le-listen/


It was also interesting to note the mysteriously exorbitantly funded Nippon.com quickly rushing to Aso's aid with its anonymous pundit suggesting "smart money says Aso will retract his comments," or musing to that effect.

Aso has a history of racist thought and comment. Why would he have meant anything else?
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:14 pm

When are the militant Koreans going to start assassinating euthanizing these dinosaurs?
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:24 pm

chokonen888 wrote:When are the militant Koreans going to start assassinating euthanizing these dinosaurs?


What? And make a martyr of him? Just let him talk openly and he'll shove his foot in his mouth so much he'll eventually end up choking on it.
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:26 pm

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chokonen888 wrote:When are the militant Koreans going to start assassinating euthanizing these dinosaurs?


What? And make a martyr of him? Just let him talk openly and he'll shove his foot in his mouth so much he'll eventually end up choking on it.


Yeah...but how many "We Japanese" actually disagree with him? If voting here represents anything... :frown2:
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:36 pm

Don't say bad on Sarah Palin...

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Plus she was excellent in "Iron Sky"...
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:45 pm

Coligny wrote:Don't say bad on Sarah Palin...

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Plus she was excellent in "Iron Sky"...


She certainly has a couple of assets that make her more appealing than Aso....
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Postby wagyl » Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:40 pm

Copied from Nikkei English version before it disappears behind a paywall.

Thursday, August 1, 2013
DJ: Aso Wants To Retract Use of Nazi Example In Monday Speech

TOKYO--Japan's finance minister expressed regret Thursday over the furor caused by his recent remarks about Nazi Germany, saying he wants to retract the remarks.

"I deeply regret that remarks I made on July 29 concerning the Nazi government caused misunderstanding about my real intent," Finance Minister Taro Aso said, reading a statement before reporters.

During a speech Monday, Mr. Aso--who also serves as deputy prime minister and was once prime minister--said Japan should learn how Germany's constitution under the Weimar Republic was transformed by the Nazis before anybody realized what was happening.

"Germany's Weimar Constitution was changed before anyone noticed. It was changed before anyone was aware. Why don't we learn from that technique," Japanese media quoted Mr. Aso as saying. The comments were confirmed by his office.

The comments quickly drew criticism from a Jewish human rights group and from South Korea, which suffered under Japanese militarism.

On Thursday, however, Mr. Aso tried to play down the remarks.

"If my entire statement is read, it should be clear that I look very negatively at Nazi Germany," and how the constitution was changed under the Weimar Republic, he said.

He said the reference to Nazi Germany "ended up causing misunderstanding."

"I would like to retract the use of the Nazis government as an example," he said.


No idea what DJ means and there are some errors in quote marks, so who knows whether this will change in time, but captured this moment anyway.
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Postby 6810 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:44 pm

Coligny wrote:Don't say bad on Sarah Palin...

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Plus she was excellent in "Iron Sky"...


Who put grapefruits inside that photoshopped Sarah Palin's breasts?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:24 pm

Coligny wrote:Don't say bad on Sarah Palin...

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Plus she was excellent in "Iron Sky"...


Nothing was excellent about "Iron Sky."
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:45 pm

6810 wrote:
Coligny wrote:Don't say bad on Sarah Palin...

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Plus she was excellent in "Iron Sky"...


Who put grapefruits inside that photoshopped Sarah Palin's breasts?


I'm not sure, but I think she might be in the same room as a naked AO judging by what she's holding...
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Postby wangta » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:23 am

So the remarkably simian looking Taro Asole is still around saying garbage...the more things change, the more they stay the same. I find it depressing that he hasn't been given his marching orders simply for being an idiot but then again like nearly all of Japan's ruling elites, politicians from Jiminto, he is descended from the elites who ran WW2 so his slave labour 'employing' grandfather was just the norm.

Having said that I also find the inevitable responses from Koreans also depressing. I'd hate to see Koreans if they had been in the position of Europeans who over thousands of yrs invaded each other, wiped each others' identities out and enforced new lanaguages, cultures etc as a matter of course.

It's bad enough that many Koreans seriously express and promote the idea that they are 'the Jews of Asia' who had their own holocaust inflicted on them, or even whinge that the slavery of Africans is similar to their experience of the Japanese occupation - notwithstanding the fact that Korean society had a history of slavery for a very long time and it was one of Koreans enslaving each other, and the Japanese made laws against it.

Yes, they are serious. Of course I never met a Korean who had any idea about the 300 yrs plus occupations of countries like Ireland by colonising powers or the genocidal policies of the Turks against the Armenians or even the fact that modern day Turkey was once a non Muslim country with different ethnicities than that of the invading Ottomans, etc.

To get Japan to acknowledge its guilt for various things will need something more than whingeing, hypocritical Koreans whose own military enthusiastically recruited village girls for their own sexual purposes, something very few Koreans will acknowledge except for one or two brave Korean academics. I also think that Japan will never come to terms with its 20th century wrongdoing as at the moment it's clear to me that there's a fairly isolationist mentality resurging here.

It's not as if Japan is being flooded in any way by masses of illegals or would be migrants, mass migration will never take place here as the conditions will never be right for it. However, there seems to be a worrying retreat from the future - and the future of any developed country is some form of significant interaction with the world. Japan could have a very good controlled immigration program that truly encourages skills and attracts businesses, it could seek to have real solutions to the rapidly ageing society and correspondent single kid families that seem to be growing here.

But instead we have the same old, same old as well as the growing isolationism of Japanese much younger than the likes of the senile Shintaro Ishihara and the fool Aso. Japan could keep its culture while picking and choosing the best of globalism but instead has chosen to retreat. I expect older people here to suck like that, but younger Japanese do. They seem to think it's all or nothing instead of trying to be intelligent about the future.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:07 am

wangta wrote:So the remarkably simian looking Taro Asole is still around saying garbage...the more things change, the more they stay the same. I find it depressing that he hasn't been given his marching orders simply for being an idiot but then again like nearly all of Japan's ruling elites, politicians from Jiminto, he is descended from the elites who ran WW2 so his slave labour 'employing' grandfather was just the norm.

Having said that I also find the inevitable responses from Koreans also depressing. I'd hate to see Koreans if they had been in the position of Europeans who over thousands of yrs invaded each other, wiped each others' identities out and enforced new lanaguages, cultures etc as a matter of course.

It's bad enough that many Koreans seriously express and promote the idea that they are 'the Jews of Asia' who had their own holocaust inflicted on them, or even whinge that the slavery of Africans is similar to their experience of the Japanese occupation - notwithstanding the fact that Korean society had a history of slavery for a very long time and it was one of Koreans enslaving each other, and the Japanese made laws against it.

Yes, they are serious. Of course I never met a Korean who had any idea about the 300 yrs plus occupations of countries like Ireland by colonising powers or the genocidal policies of the Turks against the Armenians or even the fact that modern day Turkey was once a non Muslim country with different ethnicities than that of the invading Ottomans, etc.

To get Japan to acknowledge its guilt for various things will need something more than whingeing, hypocritical Koreans whose own military enthusiastically recruited village girls for their own sexual purposes, something very few Koreans will acknowledge except for one or two brave Korean academics. I also think that Japan will never come to terms with its 20th century wrongdoing as at the moment it's clear to me that there's a fairly isolationist mentality resurging here.

It's not as if Japan is being flooded in any way by masses of illegals or would be migrants, mass migration will never take place here as the conditions will never be right for it. However, there seems to be a worrying retreat from the future - and the future of any developed country is some form of significant interaction with the world. Japan could have a very good controlled immigration program that truly encourages skills and attracts businesses, it could seek to have real solutions to the rapidly ageing society and correspondent single kid families that seem to be growing here.

But instead we have the same old, same old as well as the growing isolationism of Japanese much younger than the likes of the senile Shintaro Ishihara and the fool Aso. Japan could keep its culture while picking and choosing the best of globalism but instead has chosen to retreat. I expect older people here to suck like that, but younger Japanese do. They seem to think it's all or nothing instead of trying to be intelligent about the future.


Don't worry....Japan is running out of money fast (actually, it ran out of money a long time ago, but now it taxes Japanese companies in the form of making them buy government bonds, but even that caper can't last too long...I guess the next step is to tax repatriation of funds from Japanese companies overseas, and once those funds have dried up, it will be the end of the fruits of the postwar economic miracle).
But, thankfully for the Korean whingers, China is getting shitloads of cash. The Chinese exploited/enslaved Koreans for much longer and equally brutally as Japs did (and with just as much collaboration), so they'll be taking their begging bowls to Beijing.
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Postby Russell » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:49 am

If Japanese have this bad relations with their neighbors, they should consider swapping countries with the Kiwis.

It would also bring them closer to their traditional (whale) hunting grounds.

And their are no issues with their neighbors about comfort women... O, wait...
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