Japan crushes China 3 to 1, tonight

[Taro Toporific]

(AP , Saturday, Aug 7, 2004)[/url]---A Chinese woman dressed in old style Chinese military uniform of the Eight Route Army, a Chinese Communist guerilla army which fought the Japanese occupiers during the World War II, holds up a wooden sword with the words 'Slash the Japanese team with a big sword' before the final of the Asian Cup 2004 held in Beijing ... China will face off Japan in the finals tonight.

[Quid pro quo]

This sport event will be held in a nice atmosphere that's for sure.

[Quid pro quo]

1-0 Japan 21 minute. Very silent audience!

[Big Booger]

1-0 Japan 21 minute. Very silent audience!

I hope Japan wins

[Quid pro quo]

I must admit I do too. Unfortunately China got an equalizer. Maybe Zico has put his mark on Japan a little too much (good attacking football but bad defence.)

[Quid pro quo]

2-1 Japan 65'!! Looks like a "Gods hand" Maradona style though but it is a goal.

[Caustic Saint]

3-1 Japan at 90+1

Stick a fork in China because....

[Taro Toporific]

Japan beats China 3-1 to win 2nd straight Asian Cup
Japan Today, Aug 4, 11:10pm
BEIJING--Japan beat host China 3-1 in a trouble-free game on Saturday night, with second-half goals from Koji Nakata and Keiji Tamada, to win their second--half goals from Koji Nakata and Keiji Tamada, to win their second successive Asian Cup and third overall. ...

[Blah Pete]

Congrads Japan!!!!!!

Missing some of their top players this tournament and still pulled it off.
Best thing was being able to silence the PRC.
Booers never win
Anybody see the award ceremony? The Chinese lady holding the medals tray had a real nasty look on her face when the Japanese team was receiving their medals.
Can hardly wait to see what kind of attitude the Chinese will have at 2008 Beijing Olympics.

[Big Booger]

VIVA NIPPON!!! Glad to see them pull it off! That communist pro-military looking chick is wacky... fruity cakes the whole lot of them.

[gaijinzilla]

Not "The hand of God", rather "the hand of Buddha" although it seemed to me that the Chinese defender's hand may have knocked it in, so in that case it would be better to say "The Hand of Chairman Mao"!
And one more thing, could there not have been a more useless player on the Japanese side than Suzuki. All he can do is miss shots and fall over. I can do that.... and for half the money

[blackcat]

WOW you are all so anti china arent you!

and you all think their attitude sucks.

soccers a shit game anyway.

[Big Booger]

I'm not Anti-Chinese in any way shape or form.. in fact I like most of the Chinese people that I have ever communicated with from my college professor to the Chinese couple I and my wife are friends with here in Japan.

I loathe communism, suppression, oppression, and the like that the PRC imposes on the populace of China. The Red Army nearly wiped out Chinese culture..

The Chinese leadership are opposed to change and don't want the people of China to vote, to elect, or anything of the sort.. they like and want to maintain the current status quo... I think it is time for a change and Chinese should willingly and openly embrace democracy.. Communism is dead why keep it on life support? Pull the plug and let it die.

[kamome]

I was rooting for Japan for the same reasons as BB. And I was pissed at the attitude of the Chinese crowd. Man, they were pretty brutal towards the Japanese team.

[Skankster]

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I was rooting for Japan for the same reasons as BB. And I was pissed at the attitude of the Chinese crowd. Man, they were pretty brutal towards the Japanese team.

They are resuscitation the cruelty at the hands of the Japnese

[kamome]

They are resuscitation the cruelty at the hands of the Japnese

Come on, it's just a soccer game. The hate and WWII references were overboard.

[Quid pro quo]

Not "The hand of God", rather "the hand of Buddha" although it seemed to me that the Chinese defender's hand may have knocked it in, so in that case it would be better to say "The Hand of Chairman Mao"!

On the replay on Eurosport I think it was apparent that the japanese player hit the ball with his arm. And why not the arm of some shinto god?

[Quid pro quo]

I agree with BB and kamome on the reason why Japan seemed the more pleasent alternative plus that Chinas forgein policy is a little bit to aggressive in my view so why allow more nationalistic glory to be exploited by the leadership?

[Mulboyne]

WWII memories are not limited to Asia. Watch a Holland vs Germany match for more of the same. When Holland beat Germany in the European cup many moons ago, the manager said "I am happy for reasons it is better not to talk about"
US team sports are big business but not really global sports with all the bad blood that goes with these kind of confrontations. England/Argentina? Iran/Iraq?

[Big Booger]

Hundreds of Chinese soccer fans faced off with riot police outside a Beijing stadium on Saturday night, throwing bottles and shouting obscenities after Japan won the politically charged Asia Cup.

The crowd burned Japanese flags and called for boycotts of Japanese goods after the defending champions' 3-1 win.

The governments of both countries had pleaded with fans to stay calm ahead of the potentially explosive encounter. Some 6,000 riot police, troops and security staff were deployed at the stadium.

The Chinese still resent Japan's invasion and occupation of parts of their country from 1931 to 1945 when tens of millions died and Japanese soldiers were widely referred to as devils.

Tens of thousands of Chinese fans converged on the Workers' Stadium before the match, many waving national flags or banging drums. They booed Japan so loudly that they drowned out the Japanese national anthem played at the start of the match.

About 2,000 Japanese fans sat separated from their Chinese counterparts by several rows of plainclothes security officials to prevent trouble.

The final whistle was greeted by jeers, obscenities and paper missiles from the Chinese crowd. Hundreds of fans massed outside the stadium's north gate where they threw bottles and shouted abuse.

Before the match, small groups of Chinese chanted anti-Japanese slogans and flashed politically charged banners outside the stadium, but none were on display inside.

One banner, reflecting China's desire to beat Japan, read "Take the blade to the devil's head and put our head in its place." A group of fans clustered round a ringleader who shouted "Kill the Japanese."

Some 40 people wearing the shabby gray uniform of anti-Japanese forces operating in the 1930s and 40s brandished pieces of paper bearing messages like "300,000," a reference to the number of people China says were killed by Japanese troops in the 1937 Nanjing massacre.

State media urged spectators on Saturday to separate sport from politics at the final, after a series of games at which hostile Chinese crowds have jeered Japanese players and hurled debris onto the pitch.

One 35-year-old man who described himself as a patriotic educator said it was important to remind the Japanese not to forget history. "We're seeing their old fascism starting to come back a little. For example they are sending troops abroad," said the man, surnamed Xue.

Thousands of riot police, armed soldiers and SWAT teams were deployed to prevent crowd trouble and reassure the Japanese fans.

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Chinese police remove an anti-Japanese banner put up by Chinese spectators at one of Japan's matches.

Japanese student Yuichiro Aoki, his face painted in his team colors of blue and red, said he was a little scared. "But there are lots of police, maybe 10,000, so it is safe," he said.

Rumors abounded ahead of the game that some Chinese fans might seize the chance to stage protests or make political statements.

Lu Yunfei of the Alliance for the Protection and Defence of the Diaoyu Islands, which backs China in its dispute with Japan over ownership of the East China Sea islands, said his members had called off plans to attend the match with political banners.

"With the upsurge of patriotic feeling, we didn't want to do anything that might intensify the situation. No one wants to see that," he said.

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A sham really. I mean half those people have no idea what went on besides what is being ingrained in their brains through the Chinese education system. I believe they still teach to hate Japanese over the atrocities committed.

The final whistle was greeted by jeers, obscenities and paper missiles from the Chinese crowd. Hundreds of fans massed outside the stadium's north gate where they threw bottles and shouted abuse.

And they complained about LEWDNESS of some Japanese yet they turn around and say stuff like this:

One banner, reflecting China's desire to beat Japan, read "Take the blade to the devil's head and put our head in its place." A group of fans clustered round a ringleader who shouted "Kill the Japanese."

While not lewd, it certainly is crude.
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[AssKissinger]

I have never seen a group of fans more out-classed than the Chinese.

[devicenull]

[Blah Pete]

This isn't the first sporting match between these two countries. Why all of the hate now? Is there a new crop of brainwashed kids in the PRC?

And, why did NHK not show another angle of the 2nd goal? Did look like a hand ball from the one angle they showed. Stadium full of cameras and they get only one angle for a controversial goal...

[devicenull]

This isn't the first sporting match between these two countries. Why all of the hate now? Is there a new crop of brainwashed kids in the PRC?

And, why did NHK not show another angle of the 2nd goal? Did look like a hand ball from the one angle they showed. Stadium full of cameras and they get only one angle for a controversial goal...

CCTV was good at getting an angle to show the handball :P

[Taro Toporific]

I have never seen a group of fans more out-classed than the Chinese.

Feel the love.

[Big Booger]

[Neo-Rio]

China couldn't have hoped to win that match through skill alone. Let's face it, the Chinese team never got any further than the first group in the World Cup.

The only hope the Chinese team had of winning was by using the crowd to demoralise the Japanese.

Once again, the PRC makes royal asses of themselves for not only haviing a shite team, but for having the gall to have bad sportmanship as well.

[devicenull]

eh, they dont like the japanese because of recent history. and they dont trust the japanese to not try it again in the future. blinky doesnt help the situation much either. an apology and removing the war criminals from yasukuni would kill most of the propaganda here. the CPC doesnt endorse the hatred all too much though.. not anymore at least. security was so tight last night at the stadium and pretty much everywhere near it. the mob that started to form was broken up within minutes and there were arrests. a friend here said it best. most chinese at this point will tolerate the japanese, but not respect them. in the colleges though, there are more and more japanese students coming, and more openminded chinese are befriending them. i guess it is similar to how a lot of people in the US view Russia at this point. they grew up in an environment where USSR was the ultimate evil, now it is no longer communist, but there is sentiment that it will revert to it's old ways eventually. of course, that was without shots being fired and millions slaughtered. japan denied shit for years that was later proven. the hatred isnt really all that unjustified. it will take time and shows of good faith and cooperation to mend the wounds. the good business relations now will help hasten it too.

[cstaylor]

eh, they dont like the japanese because of recent history. and they dont trust the japanese to not try it again in the future.

I'd suggest a good read of Tuchman's "Stilwell and the American Experience in China", about how the Chinese spent most of WW2 fighting each other rather than the Japanese invaders. The blood of millions spilt out onto the floor for no reason at all, Chinese killing Chinese, brother on brother, all while the foreign invader marched farther into the country.

[devicenull]

eh, they dont like the japanese because of recent history. and they dont trust the japanese to not try it again in the future.

I'd suggest a good read of Tuchman's "Stilwell and the American Experience in China", about how the Chinese spent most of WW2 fighting each other rather than the Japanese invaders. The blood of millions spilt out onto the floor for no reason at all, Chinese killing Chinese, brother on brother, all while the foreign invader marched farther into the country.

yea, the whole KMT and CPC thing. pretty much the same as if during the civil war the british invaded via canada. Kai-Shek was an asshole backstabber who couldnt deal with the loss of power after he decided to try to eliminate the CPC from the government. civil war led to japanese being able to defeat china pretty easily.