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Postby CrankyBastard » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:59 am

The masters of both vessels should lose their tickets.

In order to get certified as a second mate, first mate, master adn extra master, every candidate must know by heart and is tested on the international rules of the road, required to answer immediately any and all questions concerning said rules.
It's one of the hardest parts of gaining certificate of competency, because the examiners are usually old ex sea captains who probably served their cadetship under Nelson. They're bitter at having to work ashore and resent the younger generation persuing a life at sea.
(I was failed twice, before getting first mate's)

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Part A - General

1. Application
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Nothing in these Rules shall exonerate any vessel, or the owner, master or crew thereof, from the consequences of any neglect to comply with these Rules or of the neglect of any precaution which may be required by the ordinary practice of seamen, or by the special circumstances of the case.
In construing and complying with these Rules due regard shall be had to all dangers of navigation and collision and to any special circumstances, including the limitations of the vessels involved, which may make a departure from these Rules necessary to avoid immediate danger.


Risk of Collision
Vessels must use all available means to determine the risk of a collision, including the use of radar (if available) to get early warning of the risk of collision by radar plotting or equivalent systematic observation of detected objects. (e.g. ARPA, AIS).

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Actions taken to avoid collision should be:
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Crossing situations
When two power-driven vessels are crossing, the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way.

The give-way vessel must take early and substantial action to keep well clear.

The stand-on vessel may take action to avoid collision if it becomes clear that the give-way vessel is not taking appropriate action.
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Postby CrankyBastard » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:04 am

Tsuru wrote:I gotta say, I didn't exactly feel sorry for them. Don't start nothing won't be nothing.

The yellowy stuff is probably the sandwich filler material, similar to that expanding foam stuff. CF is hard to spot under a black coat of paint.



The yellow stuff is more likely to be the end product of liposuction :puke:

This from Wikipedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthrace

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The vessel was designed by Craig Loomis Design Group and built by Calibre Boats. The wave-piercing trimaran design allows for improved speed and stability. Additional stability is also provided by its two large sponsons and it is designed to right itself if it capsizes. The hull is composed of a composite carbon fibre and kevlar with a non-toxic anti-foul paint.[1]

The ship is powered by two 540 horsepower Cummins Mercruiser engines that run on a low-emission animal fat and vegetable oil mix biodiesel.[2] [color="Red"]Then in 2005, the operator underwent liposuction and converted 100 grams of his own body fat into fuel as a publicity stunt.[/color] It can also run on diesel, biodiesel or blends. To cool and provide fresh air to the engines, intakes are located on two dramatic fins.[3]

It cost $2.5 million, which was mostly funded by sponsors. When asked, "Regrets about the cost of it all?" skipper Pete Bethune replied "No...You know, I do have the coolest boat in the world."


Also official web site here but doesn't seem to be up to date - http://www.earthrace.net/

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It has been announced that the Earthrace will accompany Sea Shepherd in in its 2009-2010 operations against Japanese Whaling in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. Pete Bethune, the operator, says that an agreement was reached with Sea Shepherd for the boat to adopt a support role.[12] On 17 October 2009, the Earthrace was presented to the media with a new black paint job and re-named Ady Gil.The Sea Shepherd's owner and founder, Captain Paul Watson, says he plans to use the vessel to physically block Japanese harpoon ships.]
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Postby osopolar » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:37 am

When The Age reported
The high-tech stealth boat Ady Gil was cut in half and sunk by a Japanese security vessel in Antarctic waters today...
I actually thought cut in half. Came on FG to check out the vids (get the down-lo), and couldn't help but smile while watching that vid.

Pssht. Not cut in half, only the front end. High-tech plywood painted in black boat. Did they seriously think the Japanese wouldn't push back?

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Postby Adhesive » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:40 am

The Sea Shepherd's owner and founder, Captain Paul Watson, says he plans to use the vessel to physically block Japanese harpoon ships.


I guess we know how that turned out. :rofl:
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:10 am

Adhesive wrote:I guess we know how that turned out. :rofl:


But I'm sure he got exactly the result he intended...
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Postby GuyJean » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:23 am

osopolar wrote:.. High-tech plywood painted in black boat. Did they seriously think the Japanese wouldn't push back?
That's why I'm wondering if it's all a PR stunt; building a flimsy boat like that to take on ships? I've seen videos of the SS bumping ships with ships of their own. Why make this boat to do the job?.. It doesn't make any sense unless it's to get noticed. Especially with the wacky design.

I don't give much of a shit about whales, but I give less of a shit about the corporate Japanese whale 'hunters'. Especially when they're so far off their own coast.

If Australia, or any other country they hunt near, wants to torpedo their asses, I say go for it. If Australia was slaughtering cows in the Kuril Island, I'd say Japan had every right to make the slaughter 'impractical'.. :p

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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:45 am

[quote="GuyJean"]That's why I'm wondering if it's all a PR stunt]

I'm with you. Cool (?) design, donated by a philanthropist, stated aim of "blocking" whalers...and then, "Oh f**k, they slammed into my boat" and headlines all over the world. The ship may have cost $2.5 million, but it has generated way more than that in publicity for the cause, as well as made the Japanese look like arseholes for running into a stationary ship and then ignoring a mayday plea.

Unfortunately, whaling has become such an emotional issue on both sides. I don't think the average Japanese gives a f**k, or even particularly enjoys eating the stuff. But it has become such a matter of national pride to too many bureaucrats and nationalists here to be able to give up the process, and even allows them to blatantly lie to the international community.
Average Aussies seem to be much more enraged by the whaling (I almost invariably get blasted about it by people from Down Under -- as if I had some way of stopping the Japanese...), but the Oz Government now seems to be turning something of a blind eye to what one of its largest customers is doing.

I guess this problem will only be solved through the wholesale slaughter of either all whales, Japanese, Norwegians, Aussies, Kiwis or other cetacean protectors.
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Postby GuyJean » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:09 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:.. I guess this problem will only be solved through the wholesale slaughter of either all whales, Japanese, Norwegians, Aussies, Kiwis or other cetacean protectors.
.. and I've heard these taste especially scrumptious when battered, deep-fried, and sprinkled with 11 herbs and spices.. :p

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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:15 pm

GuyJean wrote:.. and I've heard these taste especially scrumptious when battered, deep-fried, and sprinkled with 11 herbs and spices.. :p

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Postby TennoChinko » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:32 pm

Over time, the Japanese response has evolved from the hapless Keystone Cop stage to more sophisticated and aggressive countermeasures.

I predict that in a year or two, the Japanese will finally assert themselves at the same level as other civilized countries would do when their ships come under attack from eco-terrorists like the Sea Shepherd - defend their ships with live fire.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:37 pm

TennoChinko wrote:...defend their ships with live fire...


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Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:53 pm

I personally think Japan should use SS's deeds as a just cause to proclaim a war against Australia. In WW2 Aussie dudes unilaterally proclaimed a war against Japan and could win just because they were with big Uncle Sam.
BUT next time it will be one-to-one war without Sam. So we Japan easily can win and colonize it.
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Postby Yokohammer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:58 pm

Let me throw in a couple of quick thoughts.

First off, I personally don't give a shit who eats whale. That's not the real issue. I've tried it several times in various forms, and have never found it in the least bit appealing. But of course there's no accounting for taste, so whatever. I don't particularly like natto either.

To get a bit closer to the core issue:

The whalers are doing their thing in an internationally recognized marine sanctuary that's almost on the other side of the world from their own country.

So why don't they catch whale in or around their own national waters? Because the IWC, of which they are a member, doesn't allow whaling in those particular waters.

So why don't they just quit the IWC and whale in their own waters, which would seem to be much more efficient and cost effective? Well, because there are lots more whales in the marine sanctuary in the antarctic waters, of course! And the IWC allows them to do that as long as it's purely for research, which everyone knows it fucking well isn't.

Admittedly my own personal analysis, but there it is.

There's so much bullshit obfuscating the truth in all of this, and it has become such an emotional mess (and the Sea Shepherd people aren't helping at all on either front), that the casual observer is just going to be overwhelmed by the superficial tumult.

Basically, IMHO, it comes down to lying and deception to serve an agenda, which is not doing much to enhance the images of anyone involved.

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Postby Greji » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:02 pm

TennoChinko wrote:- defend their ships with live fire.


Nothing says "I care" more than selected bursts from a mini-gun....
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Postby Behan » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:14 pm

Bucky wrote:And look at this video from the Shonan Maru No. 2 it appears to me that the Ady Gil does accelerate as her wake increases from a near dead-stop, but at the same time, it appears that the Shonan Maru No. 2 turns to starboard. Man, if you are piloting the Ady Gil stay the fuck out of the way of a big steel ship!
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In my paranoid mind, it looked like the cameraman stopped including parts of the Japanese ship in the shot so it wouldn't be so obvious they were turning into the Ady Gil.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:36 pm

http://www.asahi.com/international/update/0108/TKY201001080346.html

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Mod Edit: The Asahi report says the whalers found arrows in the flotsam from the destroyed boat.
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Postby Adhesive » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:53 pm

Activists urge legal action against Japan whalers
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Anti-whaling activists have asked the Dutch public prosecutor to launch a criminal investigation into a clash between protesters and Japanese whalers which led to the sinking of a protest boat..."This particular ship that attacked the Ady Gil was at a close distance all the time since they left the Australian harbor," Zegveld added. "It was sent out and equipped for following and harassing the Ady Gil."...
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Postby AssKissinger » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:07 pm

Adhesive wrote:Activists urge legal action against Japan whalers


I wish the anti-whalers on that boat would have died. God, I hate those fucks. They follow the Japanese ships all the way down there just to harrass them and then pretend it's not their fault. Their whole purpose is to go down there and start shit and then when they get some shit they cry like bitches. They remind me of a bunch of immature school kids who try to bully a decent kid and then cry to the teacher when they end up with their tails between their legs. The Japanese shouldn't leave any evidence next time, if you get my drift.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:15 pm

AssKissinger wrote:I wish the anti-whalers on that boat would have died. God, I hate those fucks. They follow the Japanese ships all the way down there just to harrass them and then pretend it's not their fault. Their whole purpose is to go down there and start shit and then when they get some shit they cry like bitches. They remind me of a bunch of immature school kids who try to bully a decent kid and then cry to the teacher when they end up with their tails between their legs. The Japanese shouldn't leave any evidence next time, if you get my drift.


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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:11 pm

Bit of bog and that thing'll be good as new.
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Postby GuyJean » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:44 am

AssKissinger wrote:I wish the anti-whalers on that boat would have died. God, I hate those fucks. They follow the Japanese ships all the way down there just to harrass them and then pretend it's not their fault. Their whole purpose is to go down there and start shit and then when they get some shit they cry like bitches...
I keep forgetting Antarctica is closer to Japan than Australia.. :p And once again, it's AK to the rescue; defending innocent corporate cocksuckers around the globe! ;)

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:37 pm

GuyJean wrote:I keep forgetting Antarctica is closer to Japan than Australia


That fat fuck Cap'n is a long way from Canada. Anyone who donates money to those tools should be arrested for supporting terrorists.
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Postby GuyJean » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:27 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:That fat fuck Cap'n is a long way from Canada. Anyone who donates money to those tools should be arrested for supporting terrorists.
Was Fat Fuck on the Ady? I was under the impression there were a lot of Australians on this 'mission'.. Since it's close to Australia..

But again, my give-a-fuck meter ratings:

whales - 8
anti-whalers - 9
government funded whale hunters - 11

(*edit - if give a fuck is 1, and don't give a fuck is 10)

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:33 pm

GuyJean wrote:Was Fat Fuck on the Ady? I was under the impression there were a lot of Australians on this 'mission'.. Since it's close to Australia..


No, but he's down there all the time stirring up shit and supporting criminal activity. Unless those are Australian waters and they're the Coast Guard they should be arrested and tried for piracy and/or terrorism.
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Postby TennoChinko » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:29 pm

On the title "Captain" .. it's a title that Paul Watson has bestowed upon himself. He has never been the captain of a ship. Not unlike the head of a terrorist group or small African dictatorship calling himself "General" or "President for Life".


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Postby Behan » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:18 pm

In this video it looks a lot more like the Japanese ship came after the FGs:

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Postby AssKissinger » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:51 pm

AK to the rescue; defending innocent corporate cocksuckers around the globe!


The Sea Shepherd are the corporate cocksuckers with their million dollar donations from every other no nothing richie rich sell-out in the entertainment industry.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100107/ts_afp/australiajapanwhalingnzealandseashepherd_20100107090353

In this video it looks a lot more like the Japanese ship came after the FGs


Those guys aren't FG's but it's funny how they're so nonchalant laughing at the LRAD and congratulating themselves and then suddenly they're all scared as if they thought they could mess with the bull without getting the horns.
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Postby GuyJean » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:32 pm

AssKissinger wrote:The Sea Shepherd are the corporate cocksuckers with their million dollar donations from every other no nothing richie rich sell-out in the entertainment industry.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100107/ts_afp/australiajapanwhalingnzealandseashepherd_20100107090353
Oh, so now Hollywood corporate cocksuckerism is greater than government-funded cocksuckerdom? Hollywood, with it's infiltration of commies and.. Oh, wait. Communists are Capitalists? :p

Actually, I thought the ramming was deserved, to an extent. I mean they were trying to loop ropes around the turbines. But let's, at least, call it for what it is; A ramming of an aggressive, dangerous, well-funded protestor boat by a Japanese government-funded whale hunting ship.. in waters almost as far from Japan as they can be.

Terrorists? WTF?.. Have we already forgotten what terrorism looks like? The very idea these pests are terrorists diminishes the meaning of the word while at the same time raises their status.. IMO.

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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:53 pm

TennoChinko wrote:On the title "Captain" .. it's a title that Paul Watson has bestowed upon himself. He has never been the captain of a ship. Not unlike the head of a terrorist group or small African dictatorship calling himself "General" or "President for Life".


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Postby GuyJean » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:54 pm

Behan wrote:In this video it looks a lot more like the Japanese ship came after the FGs:

[YT]EfgPgnyX0ak&start=84[/YT]..
It sure does.. And they all have Australian accents, unless that's Quebecor.. :p

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