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GomiGirl wrote:Are NHK collectors the parking inspector pariahsof Japan?
Do you wonder if they ever pretend to have a different job so that they will have friends or their kids won't be bullied at school?
Or do they choose to become NHK collectors as they are inherently cunts and the job suits them?
GomiGirl wrote:...do they choose to become NHK collectors as they are inherently cunts and the job suits them?
Can NHK justify its huge collection costs?
japantimes.co.jp -- 2006/08/01
...5700 external “NHK collectors” -- who conduct the door to door operations -- and various companies to perform the fee collection task. The collectors’ average yearly wage is approximately 5 million yen, although this can vary widely according to individual achievement.
Now, with respect to the hardy souls that perform this task, 5 million yen is an exceptional salary for this type of {unskilled, shit} job.
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Yokohammer wrote:One more thing: apparently some of these contract thugs are claiming that because TV is now digital they somehow know that you have a TV. This is bullshit. NHK don't know, and their thugs don't know (unless you have the TV blaring away and they can hear it).
Ol Dirty Gaijin wrote:Yokohammer wrote:One more thing: apparently some of these contract thugs are claiming that because TV is now digital they somehow know that you have a TV. This is bullshit. NHK don't know, and their thugs don't know (unless you have the TV blaring away and they can hear it).
The cable stations restrict their pay for play stations, why don't NHK? Now with digital it would be even easier.
Yokohammer wrote:Ol Dirty Gaijin wrote:Yokohammer wrote:One more thing: apparently some of these contract thugs are claiming that because TV is now digital they somehow know that you have a TV. This is bullshit. NHK don't know, and their thugs don't know (unless you have the TV blaring away and they can hear it).
The cable stations restrict their pay for play stations, why don't NHK? Now with digital it would be even easier.
NHK do place a big black blotch on their BS programming at regular intervals ... something like 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off ... with a message asking you to contact them and either a) give them you details if you already have a contract, or b) enter into a contract.
Some people assume that this means that they know you don't have a contract, but it works like this:
Your digital TV has a "B-CAS" card in it, in a slot in the back of the TV usually. The B-CAS card is supplied with your TV. 1-seg receiving devices do not have or need a B-CAS card. Each B-CAS card has a unique registration number that you can display on your TV screen (read the manual). When you call NHK to get them to remove the blotch they confirm that you have a contract and ask for your B-CAS number. They then transmit (broadcast ... they can't transmit only to your TV) an unlock code for your specific card, and you are then blotch-free. If you don't pay they can lock it again, I think.
The point is that your TV does not transmit any data to NHK at any time. It only receives.
EDIT: Of course some scoundrels have already been caught selling counterfeit unlocked B-CAS cards ... it was only a matter of time.
Russell wrote:1. If you change your lifestyle and throw out your TV, how can you legally get out of your NHK contract? Just call and tell them you want to finish it?
Russell wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Ol Dirty Gaijin wrote:Yokohammer wrote:One more thing: apparently some of these contract thugs are claiming that because TV is now digital they somehow know that you have a TV. This is bullshit. NHK don't know, and their thugs don't know (unless you have the TV blaring away and they can hear it).
The cable stations restrict their pay for play stations, why don't NHK? Now with digital it would be even easier.
NHK do place a big black blotch on their BS programming at regular intervals ... something like 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off ... with a message asking you to contact them and either a) give them you details if you already have a contract, or b) enter into a contract.
Some people assume that this means that they know you don't have a contract, but it works like this:
Your digital TV has a "B-CAS" card in it, in a slot in the back of the TV usually. The B-CAS card is supplied with your TV. 1-seg receiving devices do not have or need a B-CAS card. Each B-CAS card has a unique registration number that you can display on your TV screen (read the manual). When you call NHK to get them to remove the blotch they confirm that you have a contract and ask for your B-CAS number. They then transmit (broadcast ... they can't transmit only to your TV) an unlock code for your specific card, and you are then blotch-free. If you don't pay they can lock it again, I think.
The point is that your TV does not transmit any data to NHK at any time. It only receives.
EDIT: Of course some scoundrels have already been caught selling counterfeit unlocked B-CAS cards ... it was only a matter of time.
Yokohammer, two questions.
1. If you change your lifestyle and throw out your TV, how can you legally get out of your NHK contract? Just call and tell them you want to finish it?
2. Do these counterfeit unlocked B-CAS cards work?
Yokohammer wrote:But ... just working from memory here, but I seem to remember something about a case where a guy actually got rid of his TV, contacted NHK to end the contract, and was then sued by NHK for non-payment.
Can't remember the details. Some research might be in order, but I don't have the time right now, so if anyone want to do a little digging ...
EDIT: In answer to question no. 2 from Russell, I guess they work because a bunch of people got arrested (although that's not very secure reasoning, I'll admit). No personal experience though.
In its latest experiment with live coverage of mundane events, Norway's public broadcasting network plans to dedicate five hours of air-time to an attempt to break the knitting world record.
The NRK network says the Nov. 1 broadcast will be preceded by a four-hour documentary on how the wool off a sheep's back turns into a sweater.
NRK producer Rune Moeklebust said Friday that "it's kind of ordinary TV but very slow, although they'll be knitting as fast as they can."
The Norwegians hope to break the current non-stop knitting record of 4 hours 50 minutes, held by Australia.
Live TV in Norway has already enticed viewers with minute-by-minute salmon fishing, a five-day broadcast from a cruise-ship, and several hours of watching a fire burn itself out.
Coligny wrote:Weaponized synthetic vomit might make for a good tool to repell these invasion...
Good plausible deniability of wrongfull intent...
Cheap...
High hit-to-kill ratio...
chokonen888 wrote:Do they make realistic airsoft shotguns??
Yokohammer wrote:Just remember that thoseassholesguys have no real authority. They'll try to browbeat you with talk about "the law" and all (which is technically correct), but they do not have the authority to enter your home or force you to sign a contract. You're not even obliged to answer questions.
Not engaging them at all is, in my personal opinion, the best approach. However, if one of thoseassholes... durn it, I mean "guys" starts pounding on your door for inordinately long periods or showing up at unreasonable hours, I'd have my little IC recorder behind the door recording the whole thing and hoping thebastardguy keeps it up for as long as possible.
Coligny wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Just remember that thoseassholesguys have no real authority. They'll try to browbeat you with talk about "the law" and all (which is technically correct), but they do not have the authority to enter your home or force you to sign a contract. You're not even obliged to answer questions.
Not engaging them at all is, in my personal opinion, the best approach. However, if one of thoseassholes... durn it, I mean "guys" starts pounding on your door for inordinately long periods or showing up at unreasonable hours, I'd have my little IC recorder behind the door recording the whole thing and hoping thebastardguy keeps it up for as long as possible.
Disclaimer... They went after Hammerman's daughter, so it's a bit open season all year round for the NHK people in Miyagi...
Coligny wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Do they make realistic airsoft shotguns??
As well as AK47, french Famas, desert eagle, sig sauer and the amerikun lowest bidder junk...
Seems like airsoft people are a subset of plamodel peoples... Pretty sure that at least for the Tokyo Marui brand the accessories of the real stuff can be used with the airsoft replicas...
Coligny wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Just remember that thoseassholesguys have no real authority. They'll try to browbeat you with talk about "the law" and all (which is technically correct), but they do not have the authority to enter your home or force you to sign a contract. You're not even obliged to answer questions.
Not engaging them at all is, in my personal opinion, the best approach. However, if one of thoseassholes... durn it, I mean "guys" starts pounding on your door for inordinately long periods or showing up at unreasonable hours, I'd have my little IC recorder behind the door recording the whole thing and hoping thebastardguy keeps it up for as long as possible.
Disclaimer... They went after Hammerman's daughter, so it's a bit open season all year round for the NHK people in Miyagi...
Yokohammer wrote:...if I have a daughter I'd like to know about it.
chokonen888 wrote:The only time I had to speak with a guy, he was polite and it wasn't much of an issue....though I opened the door by mistake. Shut him down fast and he left without much hassle. When an asshole with an attitude comes around, I just worry about seriously kicking some ass if they get physical in any way....which includes trying to push their way in or even trying to throw their foot in the door when I close the door on him.
Russell wrote:Yokohammer wrote:...if I have a daughter I'd like to know about it.
Dad?
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