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Postby Behan » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:00 pm

If he had murdered and dismembered someone before I would suspect that it was not the rent but that he is really sick.
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Postby Visitor K » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:15 pm

Behan wrote:If he had murdered and dismembered someone before I would suspect that it was not the rent but that he is really sick.


why do you have to be so cynical?

maybe the time before was also a rent dispute...
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Postby Greji » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:44 pm

Visitor K wrote:why do you have to be so cynical?

maybe the time before was also a rent dispute...


You're on it there K! It is old Japanese Custom that since you cannot be so impolite as to evict someone for not paying rent, you may use the proper recourse which is to remove any, or all, major portions of their body with a hocho or meat cleaver to demonstrate your sincerity.

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Postby ttjereth » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:11 am

Greji wrote:You're on it there K! It is old Japanese Custom that since you cannot be so impolite as to evict someone for not paying rent, you may use the proper recourse which is to remove any, or all, major portions of their body with a hocho or meat cleaver to demonstrate your sincerity.

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The one refusing to pay rent was the murderer.

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Postby dark angel » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:13 am

exactly.. hiroshi aka charlie was the one who refused to pay the rent... and guys no offense but dont be so proud of the "OLD JAPANESE CUSTOM" i mean, i respect ur culture and stuff but when u say stuff like that just trying to justify what a sick-old japanese man did, whoa! where's ur conscience?? nobody deserves to die like that, ok? and if u guys will insist about it.. i would say that japanese are sick then.. u have weird law, culture and stuff.. coz it's just not NORMAL to allow somebody to cut off someone's body part when they cant pay their rent.. THAT'S JUST SICK.
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Postby dark angel » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:32 am

im sorry and i dnt mean to be a stereotype or somethin' but i hate it when u make it sound that hiroshi has his reasons why he killed my friend okay...
because for me, he will never ever have enough reasons to do a horrible thing like that..
i hate it when somebody tries to justify what he has done and tryin to make it seem that the one to be blamed for this is my friend, honie.
well i know, she was wrong when she moved in with him because she just barely knew him..she put her trust on him that quick. and that's it.
he shouldnt have done that to her, and all i can think of right now is that
he doesnt think normal.
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Postby Greji » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:20 am

dark angel wrote:i hate it when u make it sound that hiroshi has his reasons why he killed my friend okay...


DA don't get us wrong. I think everybody on this board feels sorry for your loss and is appalled by the senselessness and manner of this crime. Unfortunately, it happens every where and Japan is not immune.

What I think you'll find is that those of us that have been here awhile, have also become immune to the way these events unfold and are covered, or for that matter, not covered in the Japanese Press. If the criminal is a gaijin it is wall to wall headlines, if the victim is a gaijin, it may get a couple of sentences in the back pages following business news.

It's not that we don't feel your pain and don't share your loss, it's just that we automatically shift into that "here we go again" mode and come on rather sarcastically about these things when they occur.

As I said, I hope they hang that SOB that did your friend, but unfortunately, I am not looking for that to happen anytime soon, given the system here.

Again, we feel for you loss...
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Postby ttjereth » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:04 pm

dark angel wrote:exactly.. hiroshi aka charlie was the one who refused to pay the rent... and guys no offense but dont be so proud of the "OLD JAPANESE CUSTOM" i mean, i respect ur culture and stuff but when u say stuff like that just trying to justify what a sick-old japanese man did, whoa! where's ur conscience?? nobody deserves to die like that, ok? and if u guys will insist about it.. i would say that japanese are sick then.. u have weird law, culture and stuff.. coz it's just not NORMAL to allow somebody to cut off someone's body part when they cant pay their rent.. THAT'S JUST SICK.


Most of the posters here are not Japanese, but foreigners living in Japan.

There has been an unfortunate trend lately on here to make dark jokes or make examples of cases in the news where someone has died, despite the fact that this now makes at least the third case where someone who actually knew the deceased shows up on the board, people don't tend to take into consideration the feelings of those people when posting.

For most, I don't think it's them intentionally trying to be assholes, just a way of dealing with things. There are the odd exceptions here and there, but I don't think too many people on here who really feel what happened to your friend was justified or funny in any way.

Condolences on your loss.

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Postby amdg » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:14 pm

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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:05 pm

Body parts recovered from locker confirmed to be those of Filipina
TOKYO, April 11 (AP) - (Kyodo)
....[killer] Hiroshi Nozaki, was arrested Monday on suspicion of damaging the body of the woman....
....Nozaki went missing after one of the two Filipinas returned home on the night of April 3 and encountered him carrying a body part, the police said.
[floatl]Image[/floatl]Before his arrest, Nozaki was taken to hospital after attempting to commit suicide last Sunday. The police later found more than 10 body parts in a suitcase in the locker, based on a note he handed to the ambulance crew, the police said.
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Postby Captain Japan » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:05 pm

This explains a bit about the first case...
Tabloid Tidbits: Clumsy cop the link between mutilated Filipina, slain stalker victim
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There's a link between the arrest of habitual Filipina mutilator Hiroshi Nozaki and one of Japan's most notorious crimes ever -- the slaying of a Saitama Prefecture woman who was ignored by the cops when she complained about being stalked, according to Nikkan Gendai (4/10).

The link is Hiroshi Nishimura, who was head of the Saitama Prefectural Police in October 1999 when the stalker slaying occurred, and the now-62-year-old former top cop was lambasted by the public for his appalling mishandling of the case.

But at the same time, the same force that Nishimura headed had also arrested Nozaki for chopping up the body of another Filipina, but stuffed up that investigation so badly he was never charged with that woman's murder....more...
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Postby Behan » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:42 pm

From the article you posted, Captain Japan:

Nishimura, meanwhile, quickly bounced back from his tumultuous time at the head of the Saitama Prefectural Police. He was eventually transferred to Kyushu before he retired in September 2003 and landed a cushy job as the president of a security company based in Fukuoka.

"It's the biggest security company in western Japan, with annual earnings of about 19 billion yen," the Saitama police insider says.

Considering he let Nozaki go, perhaps Nishimura would like to comment on the current case.
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Postby Mulboyne » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:31 am

Mainichi: Suspected remains of Filipina restaurant worker found in Yokohama canal
Police believe they have found the remains of a Filipina restaurant worker after searching a Yokohama canal based on the confessions of a man who is also accused of killing another Filipina, investigators said. Hiroshi Nozaki, 48, who has been indicted for killing a Filipina roommate in his apartment in Tokyo, had confessed to police that he earlier killed another Filipina and abandoned her body in a canal in Yokohama. Tokyo Wangan Police Station began searching the area on June 13 based on Nozaki's confessions and have found human bones believed to be of a 27-year-old Filipina restaurant employee in the canal. Nozaki was arrested for the destruction and abandonment of a corpse over the case in January 2000. He was later sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison by the then Urawa District Court for mutilating the body of the 27-year-old Filipina worker at his apartment in Yokohama in 1999. However, he was not charged with murder. Now that the victim's remains have been recovered, police are hoping to establish a murder case against Nozaki over the 1999 case. In April this year, Nozaki was arrested for murdering his Filipina roommate, Honiefith Ratilla Kamiosawa, 22, at his condominium in Tokyo's Daiba district.
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Postby Greji » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:18 am

Mulboyne wrote:Mainichi: Suspected remains of Filipina restaurant worker found in Yokohama canal


When are they going to get around to dealing with this guy. Take, do you see why some many people around the world distrust Japan and its judicial system? It's not just your beloved Asiaphiles!

"Well, the victims weren't Japanese," should really not be an excuse for sloppy investigations or court sentencing....
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:07 pm

MDN: Man pleads guilty to murders of two Filipino women
A man charged with murdering two Filipino women in 1999 and 2008 pleaded guilty to the charges during his first court hearing Thursday. "I have no intention of objecting to the charges," the defendant, 49-year-old Hiroshi Nozaki, said as he entered his plea at the Tokyo District Court. His defense counsel admitted that he was responsible for the 2008 murder, but demanded that he be acquitted over the 1999 incident. "The defendant falsely confessed to his involvement in the 1999 case because he wanted to be sentenced to death out of remorse for the 2008 incident. There is no objective evidence for the earlier case, and his confessions did not reveal any secrets (that only the perpetrator could know)," the lawyer said. Nozaki strangled Honiefaith Ratilla Kamiosawa, 22, in his apartment in Minato Ward, Tokyo, in April 2008, chopped her body into pieces, and dumped her body parts into a canal and other places, according to the indictment. He is also accused of suffocating Elda Longakit Yoneda, 27, to death in Yokohama in April 1999.
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Postby Mulboyne » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:37 pm

Mainichi: Man handed prison terms over murder of Filipinas
A man charged with murder and mutilation of a corpse in connection with the killing of two Filipino women in 1999 and 2008 was handed two prison sentences in a ruling at the Tokyo District Court on Wednesday. The court sentenced the accused, 50-year-old Hiroshi Nozaki, to life imprisonment over the killing of 22-year-old Honiefaith Ratilla Kamiosawa in Tokyo's Daiba district in 2008. It also handed him a 14-year-sentence over the murder of another Filipina, Elda Longakit Yoneda, 27, in Yokohama in 1999. "They were dreadful and inhuman acts, but, his actions cannot be described as greedy or cruel when compared with other cases in which the death penalty has been confirmed," Presiding Judge Ikuro Toishi said in handing down the ruling.

In the Yokohama case, Nozaki was earlier convicted of mutilation and abandonment of a corpse, and handed a 3 1/2-year prison sentence. He was handed separate sentences in the latest ruling because concurrent penalties could not be applied. During his trial, Nozaki admitted to the charges against him in the Daiba case. He also admitted to the charges in connection with the Yokohama case when his trial opened, but during the third hearing of the case he made a turnaround and denied the allegations. In the fifth hearing of the case, however, he again admitted to the charges. Lawyers for Nozaki had argued that he was innocent in the Yokohama case, saying his confession had no credibility, but the ruling rejected the argument, stating, "The confession was in concrete terms and there was supporting evidence, such as the discovery of human bones in the defendant's vehicle." The ruling stated that his motive in both cases was that he harbored hatred because he became obsessed with the idea that he was being used by the women he was dating.

Nozaki was convicted of strangling Kamiosawa at his apartment in Daiba in 2008, chopping up her body and dumping the body parts in a canal and other locations. He was also convicted of killing Yoneda in Yokohama in 1999 by choking her with a futon.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:04 am

"They were dreadful and inhuman acts, but, his actions cannot be described as greedy or cruel when compared with other cases in which the death penalty has been confirmed," Presiding Judge Ikuro Toishi said in handing down the ruling.


There must be something lost in translation because I can't think of many things greedier or crueler than killing and mutilating someone.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:23 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:There must be something lost in translation because I can't think of many things greedier or crueler than killing and mutilating someone.

The informal guidelines for the death penalty say it should only be applied where the murderer has more than one victim. We can guess Nozaki was responsible for killing the first girl but he didn't get convicted on that charge so he has only gone down for the murder of Honiefaith Ratilla Kamiosawa.*

It can be applied in particularly brutal cases. Chopping up a body is a horrific act but the "cruelty" condition refers to what a murderer does to his victim beforehand including rape and torture. The "greed" condition refers to whether a murderer aimed to gain financially. The prosecutor appears not to have offered any evidence on those counts so the judge is legally correct although his words sound hard on the ear.

The real criticism should be levelled at the police and prosecution who failed to make a case for a murder charge in the first case. That's what put Nozaki back on the streets to kill again.

*EDIT: Actually, rereading the report properly, I'm wrong about the second (chronologically the first) murder. This trial did convict him on that count after he confessed. I even posted an earlier report about his confession but clean forgot.
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:56 pm

Nozaki has now been given the death penalty.

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Postby AML » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:02 am

This last case could have been avoided if they had done their jobs properly the first time.

This latest case is on their hands!!
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:28 am

AML wrote:This last case could have been avoided if they had done their jobs properly the first time.

This latest case is on their hands!!


While I don't disagree with you, and I think the death penalty is probably fair justice being meted out, it's lucky it was. Usually (but not always, I should stress) it takes three murders to get a death sentence handed out in Japan.
Exceptions tend to be like in this case when a killer has done some time (though not necessarily for killing as indeed Nozaki was not initially convicted of murder in the 1999 case), left jail and killed again.
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