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Yakuza whack another Japanese family

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Postby Video-Link Japan » Sun Aug 10, 2003 9:45 am

Here's a pretty hopeless point of view. I get the feeling there is another word other than internationalization that this guy is wanting to use.

Police alone can no longer keep society safe
(Asahi.com)

Yet, Japan's ``internationalization'' can neither be stemmed nor reversed. And unless steps are taken to deal with the negative impact of ``internationalization,'' the situation can only get worse.


After reading the whole story.. I thought these statements just below your quote were worthy to note:
While Switzerland is harsh in its treatment of violators of the law of the land, its refugee policy is extremely generous. Nearly half the nation's university professors and corporate directors are non-Swiss. At practically every level of society, the doors are kept wide open to outsiders. In short, the Swiss policy of ``internationalization'' is strict and lenient at the same time.

Japan, on the other hand, has no real ``internationalization'' policy to speak of. There was a lot of controversy within the government in the latter half of the 1980s, but the discussion never expanded beyond what to do about cheap foreign labor. And now, the discussion is focused almost entirely on the problems of foreign criminals and illegal aliens.

If Japan tries to go the hard-line route without accepting the presence of foreign nationals as a cultural component of society, of course Japan is going to be branded an extremely closed nation. Firm, practical measures can be taken only if some sound, fundamental policy is in place.


Wa in life, let alone politics is always a huge challenge, anywhere. I think in many ways the history of Japan shows it's always been slow to adopt from the outside world.. and when 'the issue' has been studied to death.. they will modify the best possible hybrid version and stamp it "Made in Japan".. 8)
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Re: Bother arguing with the Japanese about crimes by foreign

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:48 pm

Socratesabroad wrote: As you may not have noticed, the police in this country have a propensity towards targeting foreigners as suspects in many violent crimes.


Japan seeks deportation of murder suspect from China
(Mainichi Shimbun, Japan, Aug. 14, 2003)
...FUKUOKA -- Japanese police will shortly ask their counterparts in China to deport a Chinese student who returned to his country after allegedly taking part in the murder of a family of four....is suspected of purchasing items used in the murder of the family ....In a further development, investigators obtained clues that show the student might have also taken part in delivering the four murdered people from their home to a port where their bodies were dumped.
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Aug 15, 2003 5:43 pm

China should send him to Peru... ;)
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Postby GuyJean » Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:05 pm

cstaylor wrote:China should send him to Peru... ]
:lol:

DNA Samples from car Tied to Suspect
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20030816wo21.htm

DNA *found on a car belonging to murder victim Shinjiro Matsumoto matched samples taken from the apartment of a Chinese student who returned to China soon after the murder, police sources said Friday.

A composite sketch of a man who purchased the toy handcuffs and dumbbells used in the murder resembles the Chinese student and DNA taken from his apartment matches samples found on the victim's car.

DNA traces from sweat, fingerprints and scurf were collected from the student's clothing.

:roll: .. I smell something fishy... Oh, I forgot; I'm living in Japan.

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Postby cstaylor » Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:26 pm

Can you imagine Sergeant Tanaka (with his fading memories of high school biology) and crew trying to work a DNA matching machine?
"Goddamnit! Deputy Suzuki's DNA keeps coming up on the screen! How many times do we have to tell him to wear gloves when working with evidence!"

I wonder what China wants in exchange for this guy and the South Korean NGO man they arrested?
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Re: Yakuza whack another Japanese family

Postby Kurofune » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:07 pm

cstaylor wrote:Probably the footprints of the police themselves. :lol:

"Damn, this is the freakiest shit I've ever seen. Every time I step, I look behind me and find another shoeprint." 8O

jez wrote:Ever had a debate on this issue with your Japanese friends?

I had that debate once. I mentioned the rise in crime, and someone explained that it was because of the "unsolved crimes" being committed by the Chinese.

Several months ago, a friend's apartment was broken into while she was there. She hid under her bed, and the burglar never knew she was there. The police arrived an hour and a half after being called, spent the first few minutes marvelling at the size of her apartment and asking how much her rent was, then looked around a bit and determined that the burglar wasn't a foreigner (it seems Japanese and foreigners burgle differently), then took care of a few formalities and left. That was of course the last she heard about it.
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Real Fishy

Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:55 pm

GuyJean wrote:.
newspaper wrote:DNA traces from sweat, fingerprints and scurf were collected from the student's clothing.

:roll: .. I smell something fishy...


NEW SUSPECT EMERGES: DNA breakthrough in Fukuoka slayings
IHT/Asahi: August 18, 2003)
...Samples from that shirt suggest a link between the suspect and Matsumoto's car, discovered abandoned in Kurume, Fukuoka Prefecture.

However, as the apartment was also used by others, police have yet to prove that the crucial DNA samples indeed belong to their No. 1 suspect, the sources said.

The DNA now has to be matched against actual tissue samples from the student.
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Yakuza Scheme

Postby GuyJean » Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:56 pm

Well, it looks like the gaijin did it..

Chinese Man Confesses to Part in Fukuoka Family Murders
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20030916p2a00m0fp004001c.html
Wei recently admitted that the fleeing duo urged him to join the murder plot and offered a rich reward in return, police said.

Of course, 99% of Japanese won't get through the "Chinese Students Kill Fukuoka Family" headlines to read..
..police are convinced that the three Chinese students were hired by a Japanese ringleader who held grudges against Matsumoto, because the trio had no connection with the family prior to the incident.

They should all fry, including the Yaks.. They've turned into petty, child killing scum.. And, of course, never caught because of xenophobic blindness; see action.. never cause of action, glasshopper.

So depressing.. :shakeh:

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Postby cstaylor » Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:02 pm

GJ, you actually believe the confession? Show us videos of the confessions... oh, wait, the Japanese police don't do that. Show us the signed confessions on a translated confession paper? Oh, wait, the Japanese cops don't do that either. :roll:
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:08 pm

cstaylor wrote:GJ, you actually believe the confession? Show us videos of the confessions... oh, wait, the Japanese police don't do that. Show us the signed confessions on a translated confession paper? Oh, wait, the Japanese cops don't do that either. :roll:

Yeah, I thought of that. Especially considering what that just-released British guy was saying about his arrest, signing of something, and no-defense lawyer.. But then, why would they implicate the Yaks at all? Wouldn't they just say Chinese gangs did it?... But then, the family didn't owe money to the Chinese..

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Postby cstaylor » Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:22 pm

The Yakuza aren't all one big happy family... you've got separate families, different branches within the same family. My uneducated opinion is that the Chinese MAY have been responsible for carrying out the hit, but more likely is that the Chinese were setup as the fallguys.

I bet the guy they caught and "confessed" has nothing to do with it at all:

Step 1] Gangsters hire Chinese student(s) to buy equipment
Step 2] Chinese do so, not knowing they are being videoed
Step 3] Yakuza send in a real hit squad to do the dirty work, use said
equipment so the cops will find it
Step 4] Cops trace the equipment to the store, store to the purchase,
purchase to the Chinese
Step 5] Chinese are told to flee (since they have intimate knowledge of who hired them)
Step 6] Time passes, media stirs up the pot
Step 7] Cops, incapable of cracking the case, rope in a poor fool that was associated with the two Chinese, but most likely not involved
Step 8] After suitable "persuasion", the guy "confesses" to the crime, most importantly implicates the Chinese who have fled, but he himself has no knowledge of who arranged the setup
Step 9] Chinese takes a one-way ticket on the Japanese Justice express, doesn't not pass go, goes directly to jail
Step 10] 6 months pass, said Chinese found strangled or "hangs himself" in his prison cell.

This isn't meant as a blast on Japan or Japanese people... this injustice system, as it is set up today, probably wrongly convicts 10 Japanese for every foreigner it consumes. :!:
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:33 pm

CS is now officially a Gaichimpira-sama. Got a punch perm scheduled :wink:

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Postby cstaylor » Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:46 pm

No thanks. I'd rather stay clear of that entire area of Japan... both gangsters AND police.
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Postby Captain Japan » Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:47 am

cstaylor wrote:The Yakuza aren't all one big happy family... you've got separate families, different branches within the same family. My uneducated opinion is that the Chinese MAY have been responsible for carrying out the hit, but more likely is that the Chinese were setup as the fallguys.


But it looks like the cops are finally getting closer.

Mainichi wrote:Police believe a Japanese person, or a group with a grudge against one of the victims, Shinjiro Matsumoto, hired three young Chinese men to kill the entrepreneur, his wife and two young children in June this year.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:44 pm

Captain Japan wrote:
cstaylor wrote:The Yakuza aren't all one big happy family... you've got separate families, different branches within the same family. My uneducated opinion is that the Chinese MAY have been responsible for carrying out the hit, but more likely is that the Chinese were setup as the fallguys.

But it looks like the cops are finally getting closer.
Mainichi wrote:Police believe a Japanese person, or a group with a grudge against one of the victims, Shinjiro Matsumoto, hired three young Chinese men to kill the entrepreneur, his wife and two young children in June this year.


Hmmmm, I wonder if the real story will ever be known now?

Chinese sentenced to death for murdering Japanese family
Xinhua, China - 24 Jan
SHENYANG, Jan. 24 (Xinhuanet) -- Yang Ning, a Chinese citizen, was sentenced to death Monday for murdering one Japanese family, robbery and theft with others during his stay in Japan from August 2002 to June 2003.
In its first-instance trial, the Liaoyang City Intermediate People's Court in Liaoning Province, northeast China, also sentenced Wang Liang, Yang's accomplice, to life imprisonment. Enditemmurdering one Japanese family, robbery and theft with others during his stay in Japan from August ...
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Postby cstaylor » Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:44 am

The wife and I both think it's a setup. Where's the motive? Money? How much money was taken? Why that family? If they had booked passage for the following day, they could have robbed the home without murdering the family and made a clean getaway.

The case reeks, like a Japanese version of "In the Heat of the Night".
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:53 pm

Captain Japan wrote:China executes man in Fukuoka family murder case--Kyodo via Japan Today

Did the Chinese fry him or just lightly grill him?
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China executes perpetrator of Fukuoka murders
Kyodo, Jul. 25 TOKYO, Japan----- China executes Yang Ning (file photo), convicted July 12 of the 2003 murder of a family of four in Fukuoka, southwestern Japan. The Chinese government has informed the Japanese consulate in Shenyang that Yang, 25, was executed.
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