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Postby Steve Bildermann » Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:04 am

In a way that Charles Manson and the murder of Sharon Tate is the US's most notorious brutal murder case (OJ not withstanding) then the 'moors' murders near Manchester committed by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley during the '60's is England's

No other crime caused so much public outrage and revulsion until the murder in 1993 of James Bulger by two 10 years old boys.

Even today the mere mention of either Brady or Hindley is enough to cause people to spit on the ground and curse them to the depth of hell and beyond. It was a horror unimaginable.

The Moors Murders

The Moors murderers were Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. They began a relationship in 1961 while working at Millwards, a chemical factory in Manchester, England.

Brady urged Hindley to join a shooting club and get a gun licence so they could rob banks, he could not obtain a licence because he had a criminal record for serial housebreaking and as a teenager had spent time in a detention center.

Before long the novelty wore off and Brady had a new interest: murdering children. He persuaded Hindley to join in with him and she agreed.

Their first victim was 16-year-old Pauline Reade, a neighbour of Hindley's, who disappeared on her way to a social club in the Crumpshall district on July 12, 1963. She got into a car with Hindley while Brady secretly followed behind on his motorbike.

When the van reached Saddleworth Moor, Hindley stopped the van and got out before asking Pauline to help her find a missing glove. They were busy 'searching' the moors when Brady pounced upon Pauline and smashed her skull with a shovel. He then subjected her to a savage rape before slitting her throat with a knife, her spinal cord was severed and she was almost decapitated. Brady then buried her body, and it would not be discovered for more than 20 years.


On November 15, 2002, Myra Hindley died in a West Suffolk Hospital from a heart attack. She was 60 years old. Just 11 days later, the Home Secretary was officially stripped of his power to set minimum sentences, so the ruling came too late for Hindley.

Brady, meanwhile, remains alive and on hunger strike in a mental hospital and remains adamant that he never wants to be freed. The last published list of prisoners on whole life tariffs included his name, and although some names on this list were not publicised, it is believed Brady is the whole life tariff prisoner who has served the longest consecutive jail term.
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Postby maraboutslim » Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:36 pm

Ketou wrote:Now, as the victims of course never had prewarning of their impending deaths, I think it a very Buddhist way to bring about the death of the murderer.


Hilarious! There is no possible true "buddhist" type of killing. Just as there really should be no such thing as "jews for jesus" or "gays for the catholic church" or "morons for mensa" or any other such thing where one word is totally excluded by the essence of being the other.

But anyway...I'm not a big fan of the death penalty because I'm more afraid of the excesses of government authority than I am afraid of the excesses of the individual citizen. But if someone killed a family member of mine, I'd seek my own revenge. I would not need the state to do it for me to make me feel ethical about it. (I wouldn't need buddha or god either).
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Postby Greener » Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:09 pm

Steve Bildermann wrote:For or against capital punishment (and I am against) this case just screamed HANG HIM and have done with it.

Mentally ill he was but he clearly knew what he had done and knew it was a crime (BTW calling it a crime seems so flimsy - it was pure evil carnage)

Further, he reveled in the attention and deliberately gloated over the parents misery.

I don't know what else could we have done short of torture, hanging, drawing and quartering the bastard.


Ever see the final scene in Braveheart? That would be what I would do to the prick.

For another satisfying execution scene in a movie, rent Ted Bundy. "We need to stuff your bum! In case y'all mess yerself!"
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Postby Steve Bildermann » Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:41 pm

greener wrote:Ever see the final scene in Braveheart?

Yes, that was, as I mentioned, the method known as hanging, drawing and quartering. Very popular throughout much of the 12th to 17th century.

On 23rd August 1305, he was executed. At that time (and for the next 550 years), the punishment for the crime of treason was that the convicted traitor was dragged to the place of execution, hanged by the neck (but not until he was dead), and disemboweled (or drawn) while still alive. His entrails were burned before his eyes, he was decapitated and his body was divided into four parts (or quartered). Accordingly, this was Wallace's fate. His head was impaled on a spike and displayed at London Bridge, his right arm on the bridge at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, his left arm at Berwick, his right leg at Perth, and the left leg at Aberdeen
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Postby Ketou » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:20 pm

maraboutslim wrote:
Ketou wrote:Now, as the victims of course never had prewarning of their impending deaths, I think it a very Buddhist way to bring about the death of the murderer.


Hilarious! There is no possible true "buddhist" type of killing.


No shit Sherlock Holmes.
I was not talking about "true" Buddhism. There is no killing in true Islam or Christianity for that matter. But when did that ever stop anyone??
Maybe I should have been clearer, the reference to Buddhism was because there seems to be a sense of karma in the way the crims are executed.
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Postby Cobra » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:53 pm

you guys see the doc on BBC cable the other day about "Bankcok Hilton"? pretty scary shit. 8O
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Postby Big Booger » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:58 pm

Killing a killer, makes you a killer.. simple as that.

A life in prison should be hell. The reason it costs so much is because it is not hell. Prison reform is a must. Minimize cost, and make the prisoners work to pay back their debt to society as well as to pay for their living expenses.

I say all they need is a concrete bed, a shitter, and a place to bathe.

I'm not a righty or a lefty, I'm simply a functionalist. I don't see the value of killing someone because they killed someone.

Punish them yes, kill them no.
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Postby maraboutslim » Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:05 am

My previous post was removed for some reason (hey mods, can we at least get a private message when you censor us so we'll know why?).

So now this one makes no sense so i've edited it.

I am not sherlock holmes.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:16 am

Big Booger wrote:Punish them yes, kill them no.


Well, there's the rub. What room do you have for rehabilitation? You don't have to buy into the "Birdman of Alcatraz" to believe that prison should not just be about punishment.
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:24 pm

I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:30 pm

maraboutslim wrote:My previous post was removed for some reason (hey mods, can we at least get a private message when you censor us so we'll know why?).

So now this one makes no sense so i've edited it.

I am not sherlock holmes.


Please refer to this postfrom the site admin..
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Postby Cobra » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:02 pm

AssKissinger wrote:I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.


I agree with you anuskissinger however I will say that punishment and rehabilitation go hand in hand AND obviously getting the pricks off the street. :roll:
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Postby maraboutslim » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:22 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Please refer to this postfrom the site admin..


Ah! Thank you! I've got to stop reading this site only by clicking on hot topics up top that look interesting and not ever looking at the regular indexes. I miss out on announcements like that one.
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:40 pm

AssKissinger wrote:I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.


Ah the infamous slippery slope of deciding just who is undesirable in our society....
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:47 pm

GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.


Ah the infamous slippery slope of deciding just who is undesirable in our society....
Well we make that decision everytime we put someone in jail.
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:56 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.


Ah the infamous slippery slope of deciding just who is undesirable in our society....
Well we make that decision everytime we put someone in jail.


Can somebody say Guantanamo??

For the death penalty case.. can somebody raise me an Auschwitz???
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Postby maraboutslim » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:00 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:Ah the infamous slippery slope of deciding just who is undesirable in our society....
Well we make that decision everytime we put someone in jail.


Yes, but you can let people out of jail. How many dozens (or is it hundreds now?) of death row inmates have been released in the USA when DNA evidence proved they were not the killers?
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Postby dingosatemybaby » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:02 pm

GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.


Ah the infamous slippery slope of deciding just who is undesirable in our society....
Well we make that decision everytime we put someone in jail.


Can somebody say Guantanamo??

For the death penalty case.. can somebody raise me an Auschwitz???


Oops - time to bring out the gimp...er, I mean Godwin's Law.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:04 pm

dingosatemybaby wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.


Ah the infamous slippery slope of deciding just who is undesirable in our society....
Well we make that decision everytime we put someone in jail.


Can somebody say Guantanamo??

For the death penalty case.. can somebody raise me an Auschwitz???


Oops - time to bring out the gimp...er, I mean Godwin's Law.


Hey, I'll trump that: I AM a gimp. :P
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:05 pm

dingosatemybaby wrote:Oops - time to bring out the gimp...er, I mean Godwin's Law.


yeah yeah I know the rules but in this case it is relevent.
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Postby dingosatemybaby » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:44 pm

GomiGirl wrote:
dingosatemybaby wrote:Oops - time to bring out the gimp...er, I mean Godwin's Law.


yeah yeah I know the rules but in this case it is relevent.


Heh - that's what they all say...

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Postby Cobra » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:25 pm

GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:I don't think prison should be about punishment or rehabilitation. It should only be about removing undesirables from society. Obviously, the death penalty serves that purpose well so I think it should be more widely implemented.


Ah the infamous slippery slope of deciding just who is undesirable in our society....
Well we make that decision everytime we put someone in jail.


Can somebody say Guantanamo??

For the death penalty case.. can somebody raise me an Auschwitz???


oh shit here we go again! :jawdrop: big mouth gomigirl!
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