"WHY AREN’T JAPANESE PEOPLE FAT?"

[Kanchou]

High sugar, yes... but the selection of vegetables here sucks. And they aren't affordable.

[GomiGirl]

High sugar, yes... but the selection of vegetables here sucks. And they aren't affordable.

I will have to disagree with you there. We eat mainly fresh fruits and veg in our house and we pay under ¥8,000 a week on all our groceries for our family.

The range is not huge granted - like it is hard to find fennel and rhubarb etc - but for the stock standard veg in season, it is fine. If you are looking out of season then yes it is hard to get some things. So stick to what is in season. At the moment corn on the cob is practically free as is zuchinni etc. In a few months kabocha will be next to nothing as it will come into season. Cabbage is cheap all year round which is why you see it padding out salads in combinis.

[matsuki]

High sugar, yes... but the selection of vegetables here sucks. And they aren't affordable.

I will have to disagree with you there. We eat mainly fresh fruits and veg in our house and we pay under ¥8,000 a week on all our groceries for our family.

The range is not huge granted - like it is hard to find fennel and rhubarb etc - but for the stock standard veg in season, it is fine. If you are looking out of season then yes it is hard to get some things. So stick to what is in season. At the moment corn on the cob is practically free as is zuchinni etc. In a few months kabocha will be next to nothing as it will come into season. Cabbage is cheap all year round which is why you see it padding out salads in combinis.

How much are veggies in AUS? Groceries for two in LA rarely got me over $200USD per month (lots of veggies, yogurt, meat, etc)

8,000 a week in Tokyo sounds about right but coming from LA, I'd consider it pretty expensive. (though it really depends on where you live...the markets near me are horribly overpriced but 2 stations over and there is a larger, cheaper market with a much better selection.

[GomiGirl]

I have no idea how much veggies are in Aus - I haven't bought one there for more than a decade.

However, I have heard that inflation is pretty steep and everything is kinda expensive these days. Friends who are up visiting at the moment think that everything here is super cheap compared to Aus right now.

The times I have been shopping in the US, I have thought the prices low but so was the quality. It is rare to find a bad veggie at the supermarket in Tokyo - a few bad eggs and rotten apples can be found on FG though.

[Samurai_Jerk]

High sugar, yes... but the selection of vegetables here sucks. And they aren't affordable.

I will have to disagree with you there. We eat mainly fresh fruits and veg in our house and we pay under ¥8,000 a week on all our groceries for our family.

The range is not huge granted - like it is hard to find fennel and rhubarb etc - but for the stock standard veg in season, it is fine. If you are looking out of season then yes it is hard to get some things. So stick to what is in season. At the moment corn on the cob is practically free as is zuchinni etc. In a few months kabocha will be next to nothing as it will come into season. Cabbage is cheap all year round which is why you see it padding out salads in combinis.

How much are veggies in AUS? Groceries for two in LA rarely got me over $200USD per month (lots of veggies, yogurt, meat, etc)

8,000 a week in Tokyo sounds about right but coming from LA, I'd consider it pretty expensive. (though it really depends on where you live...the markets near me are horribly overpriced but 2 stations over and there is a larger, cheaper market with a much better selection.

Americans need to remember that the low price of groceries in the US is the exception not the rule.

[Mike Oxlong]

High sugar, yes... but the selection of vegetables here sucks. And they aren't affordable.

I will have to disagree with you there. We eat mainly fresh fruits and veg in our house and we pay under ¥8,000 a week on all our groceries for our family.

The range is not huge granted - like it is hard to find fennel and rhubarb etc - but for the stock standard veg in season, it is fine. If you are looking out of season then yes it is hard to get some things. So stick to what is in season. At the moment corn on the cob is practically free as is zuchinni etc. In a few months kabocha will be next to nothing as it will come into season. Cabbage is cheap all year round which is why you see it padding out salads in combinis.

How much are veggies in AUS? Groceries for two in LA rarely got me over $200USD per month (lots of veggies, yogurt, meat, etc)

8,000 a week in Tokyo sounds about right but coming from LA, I'd consider it pretty expensive. (though it really depends on where you live...the markets near me are horribly overpriced but 2 stations over and there is a larger, cheaper market with a much better selection.

Americans need to remember that the low price of groceries in the US is the exception not the rule.

Yep.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Thanks, Mike. This graph tells a sad (but old) story with the top dominated by the poorer cuntries who can least afford to be spending most of their hard-earned just to survive.
Also interesting to see food is so cheap in Japan and South Korea, where both cuntries are really the only industrialized nations that have to import food to continue living. I would have thought it was much higher.

(I second GG about Oz. It is the world's greatest agricultural power <in terms of output per capita>, yet prices are exorbitant and quality not great. Fucken criminals.)

[yanpa]

Also interesting to see food is so cheap in Japan and South Korea, where both cuntries are really the only industrialized nations that have to import food to continue living. I would have thought it was much higher.

Eh? On that chart, Japan has the highest prices

Very anecdotal and unscientific I know, but in the supermarket I frequented in downtown Ottawa for a couple of days in May, about the only food group I could find that was generally cheaper than in Japan was meat.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Also interesting to see food is so cheap in Japan and South Korea, where both cuntries are really the only industrialized nations that have to import food to continue living. I would have thought it was much higher.

Eh? On that chart, Japan has the highest prices

That was priced in dollars in 2011.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Also interesting to see food is so cheap in Japan and South Korea, where both cuntries are really the only industrialized nations that have to import food to continue living. I would have thought it was much higher.

Eh? On that chart, Japan has the highest prices

That was priced in dollars in 2011.

Nonetheless, it is expensive and more along the lines of what I'd thought (I had misread the chart and didn't notice the column until yanpa pointed it out).
Still, it's a rather small proportion for a net food importer (traditionally a marker of poverty).
I don't know what the fuck point I'm trying to make....
I guess statistics are meaningless, especially with the Confucian cuntries tending to polish them to look favorable.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Also interesting to see food is so cheap in Japan and South Korea, where both cuntries are really the only industrialized nations that have to import food to continue living. I would have thought it was much higher.

Eh? On that chart, Japan has the highest prices

That was priced in dollars in 2011.

Nonetheless, it is expensive and more along the lines of what I'd thought (I had misread the chart and didn't notice the column until yanpa pointed it out).
Still, it's a rather small proportion for a net food importer (traditionally a marker of poverty).
I don't know what the fuck point I'm trying to make....
I guess statistics are meaningless, especially with the Confucian cuntries tending to polish them to look favorable.

I wonder how much the tendency of people in some countries to eat out more often that people in others affects this.

[matsuki]

High sugar, yes... but the selection of vegetables here sucks. And they aren't affordable.

I will have to disagree with you there. We eat mainly fresh fruits and veg in our house and we pay under ¥8,000 a week on all our groceries for our family.

The range is not huge granted - like it is hard to find fennel and rhubarb etc - but for the stock standard veg in season, it is fine. If you are looking out of season then yes it is hard to get some things. So stick to what is in season. At the moment corn on the cob is practically free as is zuchinni etc. In a few months kabocha will be next to nothing as it will come into season. Cabbage is cheap all year round which is why you see it padding out salads in combinis.

How much are veggies in AUS? Groceries for two in LA rarely got me over $200USD per month (lots of veggies, yogurt, meat, etc)

8,000 a week in Tokyo sounds about right but coming from LA, I'd consider it pretty expensive. (though it really depends on where you live...the markets near me are horribly overpriced but 2 stations over and there is a larger, cheaper market with a much better selection.

Americans need to remember that the low price of groceries in the US is the exception not the rule.

Yep.

Indeed...

$77 in Japan vs. $43 in the US. The cost of eating out is probably along the same lines.

FYI, I went to Costco yesterday and literally got 2.5X the raspberries for the same price as Costco Japan raspberries. (same brand and everything)

GG, yeah, the quality in Japan is usually the same or better as the US(though it depends on what you're buying, they don't seem to have figured out avocado, mangosteen and dragonfruit ripeness and size....that's a whole nother story) but I'd say the quality in the US is far better than it was before.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

FYI, I went to Costco yesterday and literally got 2.5X the raspberries for the same price as Costco Japan raspberries. (same brand and everything)

You're forgetting to add in the figurative cost of raspberries blown at you for paying the exorbitant charges levied against you in Japan.

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