As if gaijin men didn't have a bad enough reputation...

[kurogane]

Administrative review be damned. Fuck that for a game of soldiers. Being an arsehole is plenty enough grounds for refusal as of and in itself. .

Hee Hee. You Go Guhlfren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But Yes, let's be honest............I totally agree. I am just playing Spock to your Dr. McCoy. We're still on the same 5 year mission, though. The nice thing about doing it by the book is that it mollifies any Canadian fetishistic concerns about fairness and arbitrary bureaucratic rulings, and there is a healthy tendency to the same here in Japan. IOW, we avoid giving any ammunition to any potential backlash and cries of a Maple Syrup Gulag, or a replay of the Gaijin Gulag. And we still get what we signed up for: one less asshole.

[IparryU]

He's probably actually revealing in the attention because he's convinced himself that he's some kind of role model/hero.

This is where you are 100% wrong and your emotions got a bit into it... He really is a role model and a hero to many men, hence his successful seminars, traveling here and there, etc. He doesn't need to convince himself of it, he done proved it.

This is the fucked part, there is a decent amount of people that want his mentoring and advice and will pay a pretty penny for it.

[wagyl]

He's probably actually revealing in the attention because he's convinced himself that he's some kind of role model/hero.

This is where you are 100% wrong and your emotions got a bit into it... He really is a role model and a hero to many men, hence his successful seminars, traveling here and there, etc. He doesn't need to convince himself of it, he done proved it.

This is the fucked part, there is a decent amount of people that want his mentoring and advice and will pay a pretty penny for it.

And I think this is where IPU has achieved what nobody else had done yet: he has got me down from my perch on the fence.

That there are a lot of people who believe that what this guy offers is what they themselves want, is a sign of how big an issue it will be to change the thoughts of this group. But if you want to change those thoughts (and for the record I think it will be a better society for all without those thoughts) you need to take the first steps. And exposing Julien Blanc's activities to a wider audience -- and by exposing they are doing no more than providing a wider audience for material he himself has published -- is a very appropriate first step. That said, the pitchfork and the torch are still in storage.

Young guys will always be dicks. It is part of their nature. We also need to show them how to respect the rest of society. That is missing from this current campaign, possibly because people find it hard to believe that you need to teach this stuff to some people, that they in fact do not think at all beyond their own entitlement. And maybe this was what was in that High School's plan when they had fun cross-dressing.

[IparryU]

He's probably actually revealing in the attention because he's convinced himself that he's some kind of role model/hero.

This is where you are 100% wrong and your emotions got a bit into it... He really is a role model and a hero to many men, hence his successful seminars, traveling here and there, etc. He doesn't need to convince himself of it, he done proved it.

This is the fucked part, there is a decent amount of people that want his mentoring and advice and will pay a pretty penny for it.

And I think this is where IPU has achieved what nobody else had done yet: he has got me down from my perch on the fence.

That there are a lot of people who believe that what this guy offers is what they themselves want, is a sign of how big an issue it will be to change the thoughts of this group. But if you want to change those thoughts (and for the record I think it will be a better society for all without those thoughts) you need to take the first steps. And exposing Julien Blanc's activities to a wider audience -- and by exposing they are doing no more than providing a wider audience for material he himself has published -- is a very appropriate first step. That said, the pitchfork and the torch are still in storage.

Young guys will always be dicks. It is part of their nature. We also need to show them how to respect the rest of society. That is missing from this current campaign, possibly because people find it hard to believe that you need to teach this stuff to some people, that they in fact do not think at all beyond their own entitlement. And maybe this was what was in that High School's plan when they had fun cross-dressing.

I do agree, but people want to "expose" him for the wrong reasons. You get a group of damaged women, feminists and white knights on twitter and they just want to shame him and cut his money tree down. But that does fuck all for society.

Just look at every article and that petition and you can see what it is geared up for... just a fucking witch hunt. When the witch is dead, they will just beat the whole pick up artist thing in the ground and it will be just hate talk.

So do these people want change? From what I have seen and read (very little) there is no approach to getting the real issue resolved. Which is fixing this mentality and educating young men and women how to properly treat other people (NOT just how to treat women FFS). This just turned into a "Scumbag alert" and witch hunt.

Now if there was as much attention on edumacating boys and girls on engagements, this would be a positive change for the world in a huge way. But nope... lets be keyboard warriors and trash talk the guy until all his monies are gone

[matsuki]

That there are a lot of people who believe that what this guy offers is what they themselves want, is a sign of how big an issue it will be to change the thoughts of this group. But if you want to change those thoughts (and for the record I think it will be a better society for all without those thoughts) you need to take the first steps. And exposing Julien Blanc's activities to a wider audience -- and by exposing they are doing no more than providing a wider audience for material he himself has published -- is a very appropriate first step.

Circle jerk mentality...but the circle is a little man sausage-fest...

On the other end of the spectrum, K-girl friend (and really, just about any female I know in the US) is always going on and on about guys posting pics with their shirts off on Tinder. Maybe because I'm so blinding white that this thought never occurred to me...but it's the biggest complaint I keep hearing from womens about online dating and sounds about as effective as posting your offroad truck or sports car....sure they'll make others envious, but not the ones you're interested in. Friend of mine has an insane Lambo...always hearing guys say shit like "I bet you get all the girls in that!!" when, in reality, he says he wants to sell it "It's no longer fun to drive...always getting harassed by GUYS who want to talk about it, take a picture in it, etc...the girls wouldn't know it from a KIA. It's not a chick magnet, it's a dude magnet!!"

they in fact do not think at all beyond their own entitlement.

In this, I think it's less an entitlement mentality and more a lack of confidence....and clinging to some asshole preaching an entitlement mentality to make up for it with the hope of overcoming their insecurities.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

He's probably actually revealing in the attention because he's convinced himself that he's some kind of role model/hero.

This is where you are 100% wrong and your emotions got a bit into it... He really is a role model and a hero to many men, hence his successful seminars, traveling here and there, etc. He doesn't need to convince himself of it, he done proved it.

This is the fucked part, there is a decent amount of people that want his mentoring and advice and will pay a pretty penny for it.

i have no emotions about the guy. i am completely objective when it comes to guys like him.

yes, by the textbook definition, he is a 'role model', but in societal opinion terms, he's not. he's a guys teaching people how to abuse women and in that sense, he's convinced himself that what he is doing is correct. he's most certainly reveling in the attention because he actually believes his own warped sense of the male/female dynamic. just because he's probably made a pretty penny teaching, well, basically how to abuse people, doesn't make him what society wants in a role model or hero.

[kurogane]

I do agree, but people want to "expose" him for the wrong reasons. You get a group of damaged women, feminists and white knights on twitter and they just want to shame him and cut his money tree down. But that does fuck all for society.

It's been a long time, but I believe this is what in Anthropology School we called Illuminating Perspective...........

Anyhoo, 2 points:
what's wrong with punching a greedy, exploitative and violent scumbag in the wallet? It's often where they keep their self-worth.

BTW, lovely points about the need to take this into productive territory, and not just let it end as a mob stabbing followed by sanctimonious high fives. I would argue, though, that your points about his popularity and success imply that that means there is an element of acceptability or legitimacy to what he does; I will argue it doesn't. Maybe the market speaks, maybe it doesn't, but people that think what he is selling is attractive or even acceptable need to be beaten for the rotten curs that they are, not listened to as informed consumers making a choice. He preaches violence as a solution, after all. And remember, I fully agree it's just a witchunt. A fun and useful one, but still a witchunt.

[legion]

Well I took one for the team and watched one of Julian's seminars on Youtube. Took me a while to get through the hour and a half of it, it's kind of boring when you are way past the age when going to a club seems exciting, and I can't say I was grabbed with "I wish I'd hear that when I was a youngster".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w65qBE-5fWg

Conclusion - a lot of the bleeding obvious, some stuff that sounds like manipulation, some hints that he plays fast and loose with the truth, lots of words stringing out some pretty thin material, but I guess some of his points need hammering home if he is talking to youths with little real life experience. To me his Pick Up Artist routine seems like an awful lot to remember, I have a hard enough time remembering where I left my reading glasses.

I think his current issues show how once upon a time we could act like assholes happy in the knowledge nobody cared or remembered, or if they did, nobody else did much, other than as an interesting news item for about 3 minutes, but now we all publish ourselves on the interweb for all to see, our assholery can go global. Viral douche bag.

I get a feeling his techniques are not that transferable, and the guys that pay to hear him probably aren't going to admit they wasted their money to get the male equivalent of the advice columns from women's magazines from the 1950s.

[wagyl]

It is not really here or there, but do you get the impression that his pick up artistry would actually work? Would it reel in a chick? A chick worth reeling in?(although that might not be a concern for him: anything with the right equipment seems to be fair game)

I value my 90 minutes too much to bother watching, but since you have already put in the investment....

[legion]

His fundamentals are pretty basic, don't mess around, talk to a girl, don't over do it, be yourself, don't over think, enjoy the situation, have a sense of self worth. There is some stuff which is common sense, people will react differently according to their upbringing, whether or no they are having a good day, so learn to roll with it, you can't do it by the numbers, but if you keep trying sooner or later you will get somewhere, but have realistic expectations.

I guess the bits which rile people up are the suggestion that you can manipulate a girl by playing psychological games. I think after a couple of beers most of us would probably find it hard work to remember how you're supposed to do this, but if the lady is also tipsy it probably isn't a huge hurdle.

I think people who try his techniques will get rumbled pretty fast, we are all on the information super highway these days, nothing stays exclusive once it is on the net, and how sexy is it going to be when you are going through your moves and the lady in question has watched the same web seminar.

I remember years ago there was a similar trend in Japan, I think the guys got called "manual-kun", along with "meshi-kun" & "ashi-kun", manual boy being the guy that read the Weekly Playboy article that went through a step by step guide of how to "getto". There was the whole dinner date course, moving the lady gradually towards the hotel (a kokyu hotel for the josamas). Same as Julian and his "fuck location" logistic advice.

I bet there are a bunch of guys in Roppongi right now cursing the guy as all the girls are renaming every gaijin they meet "Julian-kun"

[legion]

Mind you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oan3D2WwWro

[inflames]

It is not really here or there, but do you get the impression that his pick up artistry would actually work? Would it reel in a chick? A chick worth reeling in?(although that might not be a concern for him: anything with the right equipment seems to be fair game)

I value my 90 minutes too much to bother watching, but since you have already put in the investment....

For most women I think they would simply say hell no to this dude's crap, even if they were looking for some. Really desperate ones (or ones who will have sex with anyone or ones with mental issues) will have no issues.

I could totally see this dude either pulling this shit on or picking up transvestites by this.

[wagyl]

For most women I think they would simply say hell no to this dude's crap, even if they were looking for some. Really desperate ones (or ones who will have sex with anyone or ones with mental issues) will have no issues.

I could totally see this dude either pulling this shit on or picking up transvestites by this.

Take care there! Transvestitism only means that they fetishise wearing the clothes, other activities may be off the table! But overall, I think you are probably right with your assessment of where he would have successes, and where he would have his failures. I think the material here:

http://tindersfinestbachelors.tumblr.com

especially http://tindersfinestbachelors.tumblr.co ... 4731409650 shows how his own moves work, and also http://tindersfinestbachelors.tumblr.co ... t-be-proud indicates that enough other people are using it verbatim for it to appear on other parts of the web, which destroys its effect.

Thank you to Legion for taking the time to write his report on his impressions of the video, saving us all time and angst.

[Mike Oxlong]

As long as legion resists the urge to go "full mad scientist" and test the material for himself!

[legion]

As long as legion resists the urge to go "full mad scientist" and test the material for himself!

Years ago a girlfriend summed me up pretty accurately, she knew I wouldn't be unfaithful because I couldn't be bothered with the extra work load involved.

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

[wagyl]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

I don't know. Unless we are talking about the same guy, I think the one balding on top with a pony tail is sadder.

[Yokohammer]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

I don't know. Unless we are talking about the same guy, I think the one balding on top with a pony tail is sadder.

I have a ponytail! Not balding on top, but rapidly gaining forehead. Don't chase women though (any more). At this stage in the game I think I prefer to remain hitched to the devil I know.


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[Taro Toporific]

...here was a similar trend in Japan, I think the guys got called "manual-kun", along with "meshi-kun" & "ashi-kun", manual boy being the guy that read the Weekly Playboy article that went through a step by step guide of how to "getto". There was the whole dinner date course, moving the lady gradually towards the hotel (a kokyu hotel for the josamas). Same as Julian and his "fuck location" logistic advice.
I bet there are a bunch of guys in Roppongi right now cursing the guy as all the girls are renaming every gaijin they meet "Julian-kun"

Japan's PUA (pick-up artist) community can be entertaining to watch in action.
There's one satyrsatire* site that pokes fun of the PUA scene called: The Hairy White Prince's Gay Tokyo

pua.jpg

*I hope it's satire because its tone is so
disgusting and it seems to be making fun
of people the author knows but it gives them
joke names and exaggerated, over-the-top behavior.

[wagyl]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

I don't know. Unless we are talking about the same guy, I think the one balding on top with a pony tail is sadder.

I have a ponytail! Not balding on top, but rapidly gaining forehead. Don't chase women though (any more). At this stage in the game I think I prefer to remain hitched to the devil I know.

A pony tail and a convertible. So, do we ready the firing squad?

[Mike Oxlong]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

I don't know. Unless we are talking about the same guy, I think the one balding on top with a pony tail is sadder.

I have a ponytail! Not balding on top, but rapidly gaining forehead. Don't chase women though (any more). At this stage in the game I think I prefer to remain hitched to the devil I know.

A pony tail and a convertible. So, do we ready the firing squad?

He's worth more in the gulag churning out custom furniture!

[Yokohammer]

A pony tail and a convertible. So, do we ready the firing squad?

The joys of drop-top driving with a ponytail ... you don't know what you're missing.

Tell ya what: you may fire at will the day I attempt to pick up a passing babe (other than my wife) in my roadster.

[IparryU]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

Some girl's have a thing for married men... I've seen quite a few guys get a girl with the ring on.

[Russell]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

I am a middle-aged married man who whipped off his ring.

Because my finger grew thicker over time.

I guess that is a good excuse...

[legion]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

I am a middle-aged married man who whipped off his ring.

Because my finger grew thicker over time.

I guess that is a good excuse...

depends where your finger was at the time

[Mike Oxlong]

There is nothing sadder than a middle aged married man whipping off his ring and trying to imitate the post social media generation.

I am a middle-aged married man who whipped off his ring.

Because my finger grew thicker over time.

I guess that is a good excuse...

depends where your finger was at the time

It seems Russell may have a hard time escaping the automotive nature of his relationship. What sort of wrench-twisting would necessitate such a move?

[Yokohammer]

He who uses tools (especially power tools) should not wear rings.


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[yanpa]

I took mine off because it kept catching on my girlfriend's nipple rings.

[Taro Toporific]

I took mine off because it kept catching on my girlfriend's nipple rings.

Gee, I have always wondered which tentacle is proper for a cephalopod's wedding band?

[dimwit]

I took mine off because it kept catching on my girlfriend's nipple rings.

Gee, I have always wondered which tentacle is proper for a cephalopod's wedding band?

They put it on their ringpiece?

[matsuki]

A pony tail and a convertible. So, do we ready the firing squad?

The joys of drop-top driving with a ponytail ... you don't know what you're missing.

Tell ya what: you may fire at will the day I attempt to pick up a passing babe (other than my wife) in my roadster.

Attempt? Should we call you Yodahammer? Try? There is no try, only do, or do not!