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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:25 am

This is a tangentially related story from the motherland. :lol:

One billionaire moves south — and New Jersey's budget falls apart

Billionaire David Tepper is moving from New Jersey to Florida this year — and so is his tax contribution to New Jersey, which is so large the move threatens his former home's state budget.

The outsize dent one change of address can make sheds light not only on how much money America's wealthiest citizens can move, but also on how much the "1 percent" contributes to a functioning government.

Mr. Tepper, a highly successful hedge-fund manager, registered to vote in Florida last October, according to Bloomberg. He listed a condominium in Florida as his new residential address and moved his business, Appaloosa Management, to the Sunshine State. And the New Jersey legislature took notice.

"We may be facing an unusual degree of income-tax forecast risk," testified Frank Haines, a budget officer with New Jersey's Office of Legislative Services, before a Senate committee Tuesday.

New Jersey's struggling state budget projections rely on income taxes for 40 percent of revenue, Bloomberg reported. To support this, the state levies the third-highest tax burden in the country, with a marginal income tax rate of almost 9 percent for top earners and an array of estate and inheritance taxes.

The Sunshine State, on the other hand, has one of the country's lowest tax burdens: it taxes neither personal income nor investments, and its corporate tax is 5.5 percent, all of which tempted Tepper to move south.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:38 am

wagyl wrote:
inflames wrote:
wuchan wrote:wow.

I thought every long term FG had accounts in Singapore and (insert low tax country here).

Well, I did simply incorporate a Hong Kong company then the Japanese subsidiary, but basically made money to buy apartments a loan from the hong kong company to the Japanese company and set the level basically at what the rent is, just to make sure any profits are basically not in Japan.

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I'm not sure as a tax dodge that's so clever actually. Assuming you have been living in Japan for more that 5 years then your worldwide income from any source is taxable. If you fail to declare income remitted to Hong Kong then that's just straightforward evasion which would likely be caught by an audit as there would likely be a fairly transparent electronic papertrail.

Although we seem to have seen precious little fruit so far, in theory tax authorities around the world have revolutionised co-operation and routine automatic electronic information sharing. I also noticed that places like Luxembourg and the Isle of Man have been forced to share banking information with all tax authorities.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby kurogane » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:02 pm

Wage Slave wrote: I'm not sure as a tax dodge that's so clever actually.


I am. Barring a better understanding of the nitty gritty, it's not, for the reasons you stated. Non-reporting constitutes a crime, not a morally dubious legally defensible position. None of the Parasites of Panama discussed so far are evaders proper, as Jimmy Carr wasn't, at least for the most part and according to the letter of the law. I agree with you, btw. They should be publicly beaten into wheelchairs if the amounts being avoided constitute more than a certain percentage of an average or median tax bill.

That actually makes for a great rebuttal to the quibble about why doesn't everybody just do it: unless you can afford really good expert help and a substantial penalty if you lose your bet you'll probably end up like Marsyas, skinned for his hubris. Which could be a pretty cool method of punishment, too.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby wagyl » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:37 pm

kurogane wrote:Non-reporting constitutes a crime.

cf.
kurogane wrote:assuming he's not a complete idiot and ... reports it.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30700&p=368257&hilit=idiot#p368254

These two threads are interesting to read in tandem.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:53 pm

Speaking of moral grandstanding this takes some beating

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"We are amazed that nobody has said: 'Hey, a crime has been committed here,'" Mr Fonseca, one of the firm's founding partners, told Reuters news agency.
"The world is already accepting that privacy is not a human right," he told AFP agency separately.
Last week the company reportedly sent an email to its clients saying it had suffered "an unauthorised breach of our email server".

The company has accused media organisations reporting the leak of having "unauthorised access to proprietary documents and information taken from our company" and of presenting this information out of context.
In a letter to the Guardian newspaper on Sunday, the company's head of public relations threatened possible legal action over the use of "unlawfully obtained" information.


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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Yokohammer » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:00 pm

Here we go ... little by little ...

Japanese nationals suspected of hiding crime gains in offshore tax havens

Recently leaked documents dubbed the “Panama Papers” show that a number of Japanese nationals own companies in offshore tax havens, raising suspicions that some are being used to transfer gains from criminal activities to disrupt police investigations.

“It is so easy to send money out of the country. Pyramid sales, bank transfer scams, pornographic video production — people engaging in suspicious businesses are all using tax havens,” said a 41-year-old man in western Japan who spoke to Kyodo News on condition of anonymity.

The man from Ashiya, Hyogo Prefecture, has allegedly collected about ¥340 million ($3.08 million) from investment fraud and owns a company in the Seychelles that he acquired in 2013 via a Chinese firm.

“We can fool authorities by moving money using tax havens even in shady businesses in Japan,” he said.

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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby kurogane » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:36 pm

wagyl wrote:
kurogane wrote:Non-reporting constitutes a crime.

cf.
kurogane wrote:assuming he's not a complete idiot and ... reports it.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30700&p=368257&hilit=idiot#p368254

These two threads are interesting to read in tandem.


Other than the obvious fact that you need a better hobby, we are discussing 2 different issues here. If I could remember what they were, I would be happy to tell you. But I do know that if it were Manhattan or Vancouver level inheritance, then hiring aforementioned expert help would be a first step. If the money wasn’t produced in that tax jurisdiction then they can suck balls. If it was, pay your fucking taxes. The people we are talking about here avoid all taxes by ruse. The US and Japan deserve what they get, and what they get, because they ask for it with their ridiculous universality, is people telling them to suck balls.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:56 pm

FIFA Ethics Judge Damiani Resigns While Under Suspicion
ABC News wrote: Under suspicion in the fallout from the global offshore accounts investigation, Uruguayan lawyer Juan Pedro Damiani resigned as a FIFA ethics judge on Wednesday.

Damiani was already under investigation by FIFA ethics prosecutors after being identified on Sunday in a vast leak of data from a Panama law firm specializing in tax avoidance schemes which can be exploited for money laundering.

His exit, after helping to ban former FIFA president Sepp Blatter from soccer last December, damages the scandal-hit world soccer body's efforts to rebuild its image and reputation under new leadership.

Damiani's formal resignation from the FIFA court was confirmed in a statement from the judging chamber without giving details.

The Penarol club president's links to disgraced former FIFA vice president Eugenio Figueredo were the center of the case against him.

Damiani did not tell the FIFA ethics committee until March that he and his family's law firm had a "business relationship" with Figueredo, a fellow Uruguayan who had been arrested in Zurich almost 10 months earlier.

Figueredo was indicted by American federal prosecutors investigating corruption in world soccer and later extradited to Uruguay. He has pleaded guilty to fraud and money laundering charges and acknowledged taking bribes...

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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby legion » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:53 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Here we go ... little by little ...

Japanese nationals suspected of hiding crime gains in offshore tax havens

Recently leaked documents dubbed the “Panama Papers” show that a number of Japanese nationals own companies in offshore tax havens, raising suspicions that some are being used to transfer gains from criminal activities to disrupt police investigations.

“It is so easy to send money out of the country. Pyramid sales, bank transfer scams, pornographic video production — people engaging in suspicious businesses are all using tax havens,” said a 41-year-old man in western Japan who spoke to Kyodo News on condition of anonymity.

The man from Ashiya, Hyogo Prefecture, has allegedly collected about ¥340 million ($3.08 million) from investment fraud and owns a company in the Seychelles that he acquired in 2013 via a Chinese firm.

“We can fool authorities by moving money using tax havens even in shady businesses in Japan,” he said.

...


This is where this situation gets dangerous. If this news really gets coverage in Japan we will have the classic problem of the drug dealer as role model to youngsters in deprived areas. Kids growing up see who has the money,so what is your choice, work in a boring job for peanuts, doing unpaid overtime performing pointless tasks, or run a few scams and clean up ? I think this news will encourage tax evasion and fraud on a massive scale.

I love the way the Grauniad keeps saying in reference to the tax avoiders "They have done nothing wrong" then two paragraphs later quoting PM Cameron saying tax avoidance is "wrong & not right" (he loves the double obvious).

The Grauniad and others are acting as gate keepers to the data, to protect the "innocent" they say. Strange, I thought we lived in a world of nothing to hide, nothing to fear. In reality there obviously a lot of dirt on establishment figures and the owners of the media.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:04 pm

legion wrote:I love the way the Grauniad keeps saying in reference to the tax avoiders "They have done nothing wrong" then two paragraphs later quoting PM Cameron saying tax avoidance is "wrong & not right" (he loves the double obvious).


I would hazard a guess these people have deep pockets and the likes of Carter-Fuck are on standby to launch a ruinously expensive libel action given a sliver of a chance.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby wagyl » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:50 am

kurogane wrote:
wagyl wrote:
kurogane wrote:Non-reporting constitutes a crime.

cf.
kurogane wrote:assuming he's not a complete idiot and ... reports it.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30700&p=368257&hilit=idiot#p368254

These two threads are interesting to read in tandem.


Other than the obvious fact that you need a better hobby, we are discussing 2 different issues here. If I could remember what they were, I would be happy to tell you. But I do know that if it were Manhattan or Vancouver level inheritance, then hiring aforementioned expert help would be a first step. If the money wasn’t produced in that tax jurisdiction then they can suck balls. If it was, pay your fucking taxes. The people we are talking about here avoid all taxes by ruse. The US and Japan deserve what they get, and what they get, because they ask for it with their ridiculous universality, is people telling them to suck balls.

The Japanese Tax Administration requires that everyone who is tax resident and has foreign assets over a certain total value (50 million Yen) report them each year. Non-reporting constitutes a crime. This is irrespective of whether the money was produced in Japan.

The Japanese Tax Administration requires that everyone who is tax resident report their foreign income. Non-reporting constitutes a crime. This is irrespective of whether the money was produced in Japan

These issues are different, how? The balls they will suck differ, how?
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby wuchan » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:14 am

legion wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:Here we go ... little by little ...

Japanese nationals suspected of hiding crime gains in offshore tax havens

Recently leaked documents dubbed the “Panama Papers” show that a number of Japanese nationals own companies in offshore tax havens, raising suspicions that some are being used to transfer gains from criminal activities to disrupt police investigations.

“It is so easy to send money out of the country. Pyramid sales, bank transfer scams, pornographic video production — people engaging in suspicious businesses are all using tax havens,” said a 41-year-old man in western Japan who spoke to Kyodo News on condition of anonymity.

The man from Ashiya, Hyogo Prefecture, has allegedly collected about ¥340 million ($3.08 million) from investment fraud and owns a company in the Seychelles that he acquired in 2013 via a Chinese firm.

“We can fool authorities by moving money using tax havens even in shady businesses in Japan,” he said.

...


This is where this situation gets dangerous. If this news really gets coverage in Japan we will have the classic problem of the drug dealer as role model to youngsters in deprived areas. Kids growing up see who has the money,so what is your choice, work in a boring job for peanuts, doing unpaid overtime performing pointless tasks, or run a few scams and clean up ? I think this news will encourage tax evasion and fraud on a massive scale.

I love the way the Grauniad keeps saying in reference to the tax avoiders "They have done nothing wrong" then two paragraphs later quoting PM Cameron saying tax avoidance is "wrong & not right" (he loves the double obvious).

The Grauniad and others are acting as gate keepers to the data, to protect the "innocent" they say. Strange, I thought we lived in a world of nothing to hide, nothing to fear. In reality there obviously a lot of dirt on establishment figures and the owners of the media.

maybe this is what japan needs.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:35 am

More drugs ?
I think the locals are sufficiently... "special" as-is.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:57 am

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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby wuchan » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:12 pm

Coligny wrote:More drugs ?
I think the locals are sufficiently... "special" as-is.

more drugs would be nice, they should have never gotten rid of the mushrooms....


But if there were more crime it could create a way for more people to start new companies and provide more growth and jobs that pay well.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Yokohammer » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:20 pm

Maybe they should just go back to old system of having the yaks collect taxes.

... thinking about that, it probably wouldn't make much difference.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:21 pm

With the "quality" of dental care in japan do you realize the scale of the disaster in case of meth pandemic ?

Aside for Pocahontas who 1- will find even easier crackwhores and 2- will de facto enjoy gummy blowjobs...
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Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:22 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Maybe they should just go back to old system of having the yaks collect taxes.

... thinking about that, it probably wouldn't make much difference.


Less paperwork...
No waiting lines...
Collection done door to door...

all good...
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Coligny » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:09 pm

Soooo...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... c-services

Apparently illegal tax dodging is soo fucking epic that you could pay the 99% for staying home... Now... If you were to collect what's legally owed to the irs...
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Postby matsuki » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:21 pm

Wonder if there will be any major public shaming over this....tis a truly fucked hole that needs closing.
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Postby Coligny » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:37 pm

matsuki wrote:Wonder if there will be any major public shaming over this....tis a truly fucked hole that needs closing.



Can't...
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Nice choice of weurdz Pocahontas...
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Wage Slave » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:08 pm

This was in the letter with an annual statement from an offshore bank. Looks like automatic reporting is now in operation as well as information on demand electronically. If I had not been reporting, I would be getting a bit worried at this stage.

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Postby wagyl » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:20 pm

The Isle of Man is a Crown Dependency too. Just sayin'.
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Postby Wage Slave » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:34 pm

wagyl wrote:The Isle of Man is a Crown Dependency too. Just sayin'.


Yes, but these regulations now apply to almost everywhere don't they? Luxembourg caved in as did Bermuda I think. Perhaps not Panama and the British Virgin Isles yet but they must be under immense pressure.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby wagyl » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:52 pm

Tax authorities of country A can only share that information with country B if country A collects it itself for its own purposes. Panama specifically does not collect information about non-Panamanian income, and BVI already shares information about interest earned by individuals with the EU. It just so happens that almost every account held in BVI is held by a corporate body, which is outside of the scope of information sharing.

While we are talking about this, it is instructive to note the tax (and slack corporate governance) benefits in incorporating in Nevada or Delaware, with heavily reduced obligation to keep books of record or to publicly register lists of shareholders.
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Wage Slave » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:04 pm

More needs to be done I see. In the meantime it is not only the tax authorities who are required to automatically report income but also banks. The most expertly advised, well funded and devious will no doubt sail on unbothered, unless there'as another leak of course. But an awful lot of smaller fish are going to fry. Or not?
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby wangta » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:53 am

kurogane wrote:
wagyl wrote:
kurogane wrote:Non-reporting constitutes a crime.

cf.
kurogane wrote:assuming he's not a complete idiot and ... reports it.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30700&p=368257&hilit=idiot#p368254

These two threads are interesting to read in tandem.


Other than the obvious fact that you need a better hobby, we are discussing 2 different issues here. If I could remember what they were, I would be happy to tell you. But I do know that if it were Manhattan or Vancouver level inheritance, then hiring aforementioned expert help would be a first step. If the money wasn’t produced in that tax jurisdiction then they can suck balls. If it was, pay your fucking taxes. The people we are talking about here avoid all taxes by ruse. The US and Japan deserve what they get, and what they get, because they ask for it with their ridiculous universality, is people telling them to suck balls.


Yup, Kuro is definitely off the wagon and slurping the turps. What exactly is going on over in Canada? Are you one of those Mounties who haunt the Isaac Brock society webpage bleating about Uncle Sam claiming you as American because you were born there?
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Postby matsuki » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:37 am

wagyl wrote:While we are talking about this, it is instructive to note the tax (and slack corporate governance) benefits in incorporating in Nevada or Delaware, with heavily reduced obligation to keep books of record or to publicly register lists of shareholders.


....or rather, the tax is an annual flat rate and the public registration/renewals are easily done in minutes online. :razz:
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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:41 am

Panama Papers show Japanese stakes in 270 offshore tax haven entities
Individuals and companies in Japan, including major trading firms Marubeni Corp. and Itochu Corp., were listed as shareholders or directors of at least 270 entities in offshore tax havens, recently leaked documents dubbed the "Panama Papers" show.

The names of some 400 individuals who live in Japan appear in the documents, including the chief of the country's leading coffee company UCC Holdings Co. These people named live in 32 prefectures, mainly in major cities.

Both Marubeni and Itochu said their investment in the same offshore entity was for business purposes and "not for tax avoidance." UCC Holdings also denied the aim was dodging tax, adding that the company is "disclosing information as needed at the request of Japan's tax authorities and has been paying taxes in a lawful manner."

The leaked internal files from the Panama-based law firm Mossack Fonseca & Co. contain information regarding over 200,000 offshore entities connected to people in more than 200 countries and territories. The massive trove of files was obtained by the German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung and shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, with which Kyodo News and other media outlets are in partnership.

On Tuesday, the ICIJ decided to release on its website May 10 at 3 a.m. Japan time all the names of the offshore companies and people behind them that appear in the Panama Papers.

According to the Panama Papers, UCC Holdings Group Chief Executive Officer and President Gota Ueshima, 47, was referred to as the sole shareholder and director, as of November 2010, of two companies registered in the British Virgin Islands in the Caribbean Sea.

The activities and business purposes of those two companies, set up in November 2000, are not clear.

The Panama Papers also said that Marubeni and Itochu gradually increased their investments in Renowned International Ltd., whose primary shareholder was a major Taiwanese company, from 1995, two years after the company was set up in the Virgin Islands.

The two Japanese trading companies held a combined 14 percent stake in Renowned International from 2009 onward, according to the papers.

A unit of SoftBank Group, the Japanese mobile communications giant, is shown to have owned a 35 percent stake in an entity set up in the Virgin Islands in 2006.

A SoftBank official said the entity was established by a Chinese information technology firm and the SoftBank group company took a stake in the business because it was asked to do so, but is no longer involved in it.

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Re: Japanese Foreign Tax Havens: The Panama Files

Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:23 pm

j-government's way to deal with j-related panama papers is almost the same as the chinese counterpart.
its totally a shame. but somehow abe's approval rate is going up. whats happening here in japan?
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