As if gaijin men didn't have a bad enough reputation...

[wagyl]

According to my lezbe friend in Toronto heavily into yaoi manga, the Canadian Customs has some pretty broad ideas as to what constitutes pornography.

[matsuki]

Although I agree with:

Dr James Cantor, a clinical psychologist, told CBC that child pornography is evidence itself of a crime being committed, which is not the case with a doll.

"There is no actual person. It is a piece of latex. So, if there is no victim where is there, exactly, a harm being committed?"

Googling the manufacturer just raised the creepiness of J-jiji's 10 fold...

●She takes any pose you like　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　
●Eyeball set opens and closes her eyes　　　　　　　
●Realistically loolking vagina, child like like entry
●Real to touch skin, not sticky like silicone dolls

[Russell]

Although I agree with:

Dr James Cantor, a clinical psychologist, told CBC that child pornography is evidence itself of a crime being committed, which is not the case with a doll.

"There is no actual person. It is a piece of latex. So, if there is no victim where is there, exactly, a harm being committed?"

Googling the manufacturer just raised the creepiness of J-jiji's 10 fold...

●She takes any pose you like　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　
●Eyeball set opens and closes her eyes　　　　　　　
●Realistically loolking vagina, child like like entry
●Real to touch skin, not sticky like silicone dolls

Yep, that is pretty creepy.

I think the idea behind criminalizing this stuff is that the users are thought to be able to move to real kids.

[Takechanpoo]

kenneth-harrisson.jpg

this guys looking is typical for pedo and weeaboo. this case cannot help but foster the cognitive bias about pedo and weaboo guys appearnce that ppl imagine.

[legion]

Yep, that is pretty creepy.

I think the idea behind criminalizing this stuff is that the users are thought to be able to move to real kids.

The counter argument being is it provides an outlet that prevents them from moving onto real kids

An argument I think is bullshit. There are alternative therapies.

[Coligny]

The parents of this synthetic rubber pileup poor little doll must be so devastated that she's been held captive in her delivery box for 4 years...

Hope they go after dominatrix too the next time...
One day you enjoy being whipped in a leather hot pant while being insulted in german then the next week you start ordering zyklon B from illegal Bosnian websites...

Do i become a criminal too if I fit a tenga to my plamodel of the Enterprise aircraft carrier ? Asking for a friend...

[matsuki]

Yep, that is pretty creepy.

I think the idea behind criminalizing this stuff is that the users are thought to be able to move to real kids.

The counter argument being is it provides an outlet that prevents them from moving onto real kids

An argument I think is bullshit. There are alternative therapies.

I certainly don't agree with the whole "can't be helped" attitude and the dude needs mental therapy...but facing jailtime over an order of an artificial sexdoll is ridiculous.

[wagyl]

I certainly don't agree with the whole "can't be helped" attitude and the dude needs mental therapy.

Oh so do you think people can be cured of teh ghey?

If not, how does this situation (a sexual attraction which is not sanctioned by society) differ?

On first examination, I can't see how the aspect which causes most of the issues here -- that the sexual partner is not considered capable of consenting -- has anything to do which whether the more senior member of the relationship can be cured of it, but if you have an explanation for me I am all ears. Make it simple for me because I evidently have difficulties understanding some things that you consider are common sense.

[Coligny]

Yep, that is pretty creepy.

I think the idea behind criminalizing this stuff is that the users are thought to be able to move to real kids.

The counter argument being is it provides an outlet that prevents them from moving onto real kids

An argument I think is bullshit. There are alternative therapies.

I certainly don't agree with the whole "can't be helped" attitude and the dude needs mental therapy...but facing jailtime over an order of an artificial sexdoll is ridiculous.

Honestly... i'd put the rubber doll in the "therapy" category especially After seing few LARPERs with disconnecting issues. If you can redirect their obsession toward rubber bits the problem is solved...

[legion]

Oh so do you think people can be cured of teh ghey?

Do people need to be "cured" of being pooftahs?

Kiddie fiddlers are a problem, what consenting adults do with their orifices and appendages on their own time is their own business.

[matsuki]

I certainly don't agree with the whole "can't be helped" attitude and the dude needs mental therapy.

Oh so do you think people can be cured of teh ghey?

If not, how does this situation (a sexual attraction which is not sanctioned by society) differ?

I never used the word "cure" but it's not just a sexual preference, it's considered a mental disorder and therapies exists to suppress the predatory behavior. (So yes, it can be helped) Last I checked, those who enjoy sword fighting and scissoring don't develop a taste for it by being abused as children. To their dismay, their consensual, adult, sexual conquests aren't going to turn anyone a straight person teh ghey. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for pedophiles who sexually abuse children.

On first examination, I can't see how the aspect which causes most of the issues here -- that the sexual partner is not considered capable of consenting -- has anything to do which whether the more senior member of the relationship can be cured of it, but if you have an explanation for me I am all ears. Make it simple for me because I evidently have difficulties understanding some things that you consider are common sense.

As I said above, not sure a pedophile can be "cured" but seeing as it is considered a mental disorder, linked to all kinds of mental issues and often the result of abuse (triggered or not) I think there is potential. Considering how recently there is more evidence pointing to genetic predisposition of the disorder (are you left handed?) I hope such a cure is found.

[Mike Oxlong]

Pedophile sting ops roil U.S. forces on Okinawa
Controversial operations in which sailors pose online as underage girls lead to dozens of NCIS arrests

Since 2015, at least 36 U.S. service members on Okinawa have been arrested in child sex stings operated by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.

Those detained have belonged to all branches of the military — with marines in the majority — and their ranks have ranged from private to lieutenant colonel. Typically they have received sentences of between two and three years in military prison, and upon their release they will be required to register as sex offenders in the United States.

Details of the operations were revealed by two American lawyers — Timothy J. Bilecki and Stephen H. Carpenter Jr. — who have represented some of those service members arrested. Both lawyers have criticized the methods employed by the U.S. Navy’s law enforcement agency.

According to Honolulu-based Bilecki, in the operations, NCIS agents task female sailors with posting messages online, including in the personals section of Craigslist and on the Whisper messaging app. After being contacted by service members, the sailors pose as bored young women, engage in sexually provocative chat and, at some point during the conversations, they describe their ages as 14 or 15 years old. NCIS agents arrest the service members when they go to meet the females in person — either at a house temporarily leased to the NCIS within Kadena Air Base or an ice cream shop in American Village, a popular tourist area in Chatan Town.

The operations have been nicknamed “To Catch A Predator” due to their similarities to the contentious NBC reality TV show that aired from 2004 to 2007.

Basing his estimates on U.S. Marine Corps records, Bilecki says the Okinawa operations have netted at least 36 service members, but he believes the actual number may be as high as 50.

Contacted by The Japan Times, the NCIS declined to comment on the operations, saying it does not discuss the details of ongoing investigations.

According to its website, the NCIS is comprised of more than 2,300 members in approximately 40 countries tasked with investigating major criminal cases involving or targeting the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps. Its special agents can conduct arrests of service members and civilians on- and off-base. In Japan, the NCIS is headquartered at Yokosuka Naval Base, Kanagawa Prefecture, with four subordinate offices, including one at Camp Foster, Okinawa, from where it is believed the sting operations are directed.

Bilecki is highly critical of the way the NCIS conducts the operations. He says following the arrests, NCIS agents dupe the suspects into writing letters of apology to the nonexistent girl’s mother. He also questions why the NCIS sends photographs of adult women to the service members when encouraging them to meet.

“NCIS is using the wrong bait. If they are really looking for pedophiles, then why don’t they send pictures of kids?” he said in a recent interview.

Highlighting the NCIS’s mishandling of the operations, explains Bilecki, is one case tried in March 2016. Following the arrest of a marine staff sergeant, he says, the female sailor playing the role of the young girl gave the suspect her real mobile telephone number and later engaged in sexual relations with him. According to Bilecki, the sailor was consequently removed from her position.

The marine ultimately received a sentence of 15 years in prison — partly due to his sexual relationship with a real high school girl, which was uncovered during the investigation. The final sentence was reduced to two years because of a pre-trial agreement.

Seattle-based lawyer Carpenter, who has represented one of the marines and advised others charged in the Okinawa sting, describes the operations as “a network of sophisticated law enforcement tricks.”

“These kids (service members) are bored — indeed the only outlet they have is the internet, which, for NCIS, is like shooting fish in a barrel, except for the fact that these young marines aren’t fish, they are human beings with families and friends,” he told The Japan Times.

The morality of the NCIS operations has sparked heated debate online. On June 25, 2016, Bilecki posted a video on his law firm’s Facebook page following his successful defense of a marine accused of offenses including attempted sexual assault and abuse of a child. In the video — also viewable on YouTube (bit.ly/bileckisting) — he accused the NCIS of “absolutely entrapping people into committing crimes they wouldn’t otherwise commit.”

The Facebook posting has garnered 126,000 views and more than 530 comments. Although many people appeared to agree with Bilecki’s view that the NCIS operations were unjustly ensnaring service members, other posters seemed to support the operations. “Sting or not (the service members) are showing up to sleep with little girls! NCIS is protecting our alliance with Japan!” wrote one commentator.

Almost eight months since the video was posted, Bilecki remains outspoken in his criticism of the NCIS. These operations, he says, are being conducted “like an assembly line” with very little oversight. They are designed to boost arrest rates and make the NCIS look good, he says.

In recent years, there have been other high-profile arrests of American pedophiles on Okinawa.

In January 2015, a marine chief warrant officer admitted to 18 charges of sex crimes against children, some of which involved a child under the age of 12. He was sentenced to 144 years in military prison by a military judge at Camp Foster but the term was reduced to 20 years due to an agreement with the court.

In July 2015 a civilian employee at Kadena Air Force Base was convicted of sexually assaulting a minor on the base and filming the attack with his mobile phone. At a trial that took place in the U.S., he was sentenced to five years in prison.

Meanwhile, an undated case posted on the website of the Dallas-based law firm of Stephen P. Karns details how a first lieutenant in the army, stationed at Kadena, was arrested for possession of “983 image files and 41 multimedia (movie) files of suspected child pornography.” The soldier was allowed by his command to resign instead of facing a court martial, and it appears he did not receive any other punishments. Nor was he required to register as a sex offender.

“This high number of cases suggests there is a real problem with sex offenses in the U.S. military on Okinawa,” says Manabu Sato, a professor of political science at Okinawa International University. “Whenever there is an incident off-base involving a service member, the military likes to claim it is a one-off but these cases show such behavior is not an exception. If the military cannot even protect people within its bases then how can they claim to be able to prevent crimes from occurring off-base in Okinawan communities?”

On March 10, the first pretrial conference for Kenneth Franklin Shinzato is scheduled to be held at Naha District Court. The former U.S. Marine is charged with the rape and murder of a 20-year-old Okinawan woman in the city of Uruma last April. The crime ratcheted up anti-military tensions in the prefecture, host to the majority of U.S. installations in Japan.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2 ... LBEHBTQdz8

[TennoChinko]

Vid link from above post

[matsuki]

Catfishing the guys with adult pictures, women, and then arresting them when they're all hot and heavy and don't refrain after the woman lies about being underage isn't going to catch pedophiles, just horny guys with no self control.

[wagyl]

[not] pedophiles, just horny guys with no self control.

This is not a personal attack: I just want to unravel the knot of your thinking. Where is the mental health borderline between horny guys with no self control, and paedophiles? Can I tell just by looking at them or going into online chat with them, or do I need to examine in more detail?

And when you are feeling particularly horny, but are exercising self control to not put it into practice, might you perhaps use a toy to assist you? An anatomically correct toy? Should this toy be banned because it indicates that you are horny, even though it also indicates that you are practising self control?

And while I'm up here on this soap box, you suggest that gay people are perpetually dismayed that some of their lust objects may not be interested in them. It is a good thing you are such a Casanova that anything with a cunt immediately succumbs to the mighty power of your dick, never to experience disappointment or dismay. Or was that just an unnecessary and prejudicial red herring?

Were all of those marines abused in their childhood? How else do you explain paedophilic tendencies using your theories? Oh, that's right, they are just horny guys, not proper paedophiles.

[Takechanpoo]

According to Honolulu-based Bilecki, in the operations, NCIS agents task female sailors with posting messages online, including in the personals section of Craigslist and on the Whisper messaging app. After being contacted by service members, the sailors pose as bored young women, engage in sexually provocative chat and, at some point during the conversations, they describe their ages as 14 or 15 years old.

the agents post it by japanese style english and chat those guys by japanese accent english? if not, its just a thing only between gaijns.

[wagyl]

That is not a definitive test.

Sometimes chat in Japanese style English is just between gaijin.

[matsuki]

[not] pedophiles, just horny guys with no self control.

Where is the mental health borderline between horny guys with no self control, and paedophiles?

Clinical definition of pedophilia:

Criteria for pedophilia extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years old, but adolescents must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia. Child sexual abuse offenders are not pedophiles unless they have a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children.

These guys are not pedophiles any way you stretch it and it's fucked to categorize them as so....but they obviously didn't have the best judgement in the heat of the moment. The fact that they're being suckered into the "sting" with adult images, women, and even the fake ages are above 13 would exclude actual pedophiles from being caught in the operation. Not suggesting that they are minors until after they meet up, and when the women actually aren't minors...who the fuck came up with that? If they were catfishing the guys, claiming they were minors/children from the start, I could see the logic in getting snagging potential offenders who put themselves out there and pursue minors....but this bait and switch strategy...errr lie, it's just bizarre.

And when you are feeling particularly horny, but are exercising self control to not put it into practice, might you perhaps use a toy to assist you? An anatomically correct toy? Should this toy be banned because it indicates that you are horny, even though it also indicates that you are practising self control?

I thought I was pretty clear that while I find the pedo-sex dolls absolutely disgusting, I don't think they need to be made illegal.

And while I'm up here on this soap box, you suggest that gay people are perpetually dismayed that some of their lust objects may not be interested in them. It is a good thing you are such a Casanova that anything with a cunt immediately succumbs to the mighty power of your dick, never to experience disappointment or dismay. Or was that just an unnecessary and prejudicial red herring?

Jeebus Wags, It was intended as a joke...

I'm soooo sexy Imma turn him/her gay/straight! Sorry Casanova, noone is that sexy.

Were all of those marines abused in their childhood? How else do you explain paedophilic tendencies using your theories? Oh, that's right, they are just horny guys, not proper paedophiles.

They're not prepubescent....and not even minors, being attracted to them is the exact opposite of what a pedophile would be attracted to. Does that give them a pass for not backingzafuggup one they women lie about being minors? Nope...shows they have poor judgement...but that's about all it proves, considering the women in question aren't actually minors.

[wagyl]

OK, well then we have a disconnect between the rules of paedophilia for mental health purposes, and paedophilia for criminal purposes. And therefore we must take care in making blanket judgements that all paedophiles have mental health issues.

As far as the "gays want to turn all straights to the dark side" "joke," perhaps a better joke can be made without having to trot out old fashioned, prejudicial "pervert in one aspect, pervert in all aspects" thinking. Especially as it is probably best not coming from you (OK so maybe there was a personal element to my post).

Now, should Mr Newfie Sex Doll recipient be vilified? After all, it just shows that he has poor judgement...but that's about all it proves, considering the object in question isn't actually a minor. Does that make him a paedophile, and candidate for mental therapy? How is he different from the marines you support?

[matsuki]

OK, well then we have a disconnect between the rules of paedophilia for mental health purposes, and paedophilia for criminal purposes. And therefore we must take care in making blanket judgements that all paedophiles have mental health issues.

The clinical definition of a pedophile is basically only being attracted to prepubescent children. Being born that was or being caused by one's environment don't seem to change the current view that it's a mental health issue. Acting out on those attractions is a crime. No disconnect there, and the courts seem to differentiate the severity of these cases with other statutory rape cases where an adult engaging in consensual sexual acts with a minor who is post pubescent. (romeo juliet clauses make it even fuzzier by exuding situations based usually on criteria like age, age difference)

As far as the "gays want to turn all straights to the dark side" "joke," perhaps a better joke can be made without having to trot out old fashioned, prejudicial "pervert in one aspect, pervert in all aspects" thinking. Especially as it is probably best not coming from you (OK so maybe there was a personal element to my post).

It was a light hearted joke wags, I'm sure you know I have nothing against teh ghey, and as I pointed out, the silliness I was focusing on goes both ways.

Now, should Mr Newfie Sex Doll recipient be vilified? After all, it just shows that he has poor judgement...but that's about all it proves, considering the object in question isn't actually a minor. Does that make him a paedophile, and candidate for mental therapy? How is he different from the marines you support?

Villified? Wrote up as sex offender? Charged with a crime? No, no, no. Like the locals with their mayonnaise on veggies, It makes me sick....but he hasn't hurt anyone.

Candidate got mental therapy? Yeah, if voluntary. Legality aside, acting out would severely damage a child. Maybe he was born that way or abused as a child, either way, not blaming him as much saying his inclination to that sexual behavior has potential for disaster and therapy to prevent it is as much for him as it is for society. I'll say once more, I'm not saying there is a "cure" but just like the Chinese black market buyers for white rhino penis tea for ED, the inclination for harmful/illegal behavior maybe redirected towards healthier, more satisfying, pursuits. I'm no shrink but I don't see the logic in using child-like sex dolls for therapy. It would seem to take him in the wrong direction...feeding his desires and dehumanizing the children as sex objects, not as people.

[matsuki]

Just for Take....

BBC Three film maker, Stacey Dooley, has been stopped by Japanese police while filming a documentary about child sexual exploitation there.
Officers held her for two hours during the making of Young Sex For Sale In Japan. The 29-year-old had been trying to highlight the issue of girls, some as young as six, being exploited.

"It [the doc] focuses on the fact they only made it illegal to possess child pornography in 2014," says Stacey.

"We set out to try and understand why it took a privileged country, like Japan, so long to come to this conclusion."

"Also to see if the change in their law had made any real difference on the ground," she explains.

Japan has faced global criticism for its attitudes to child abuse in the past. Sexualised images of young girls are widespread, men can pay to meet schoolgirls on public streets and comic books feature child rape.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/3 ... ploitation

[Takechanpoo]

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

The Spaniards did those guys a favor. They deserve to be mocked, especially the bloke in the mask.

[Takechanpoo]

[TennoChinko]

The guy in red was the one who was arrested. The guy in the black t-shirt is a former Marine working down in Okinawa for the DoD; he apparently helped a Japanese couple being harassed by the guy in red and, as we see, manages to defend himself nicely.

Nippon Airways Fist Fight Passenger Says Aggressor was Crazy with Possible PTSD Symptom
http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/03/all-nippo ... ght-brawl/


https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanHumpDz

[J.A.F.O]

Actually the flight attendants really kept their cool.

[TennoChinko]

Actually the flight attendants really kept their cool.

Confirmed.

https://twitter.com/CoreyHour/status/859331722978119680

Corey Hour‏
@CoreyHour

For the record ANA staff and passengers handled the situation with grace and respect. They did the best they could to diffuse the situation.

https://twitter.com/RyanHumpDz/status/8 ... 5701065728

Ryan Humphreys‏
@RyanHumpDz

Replying to @CoreyHour
Thanks man! You are right to say Ana did everything they could. This could have happened anywhere.

https://twitter.com/RyanHumpDz/status/8 ... 4495346688

Ryan Humphreys‏
@RyanHumpDz

@CoreyHour thx for taking video of the incident. I hope the fact that I was pulling the guy off the couple in front of me doesn't get lost

[matsuki]

At least he didn't punch the flight attendants? Remember this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -wife.html

[TennoChinko]

At least he didn't punch the flight attendants? Remember this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -wife.html

He only got a 3 month sentence...

3-month sentence for Japan-Hawaii flight assault
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/3-m ... ht-assault

Seabright previously granted prosecutors' request to keep him detained without bail. Prosecutors argued there's a possible gang affiliation, by submitting photos of Okamoto with nearly full-body tattoos and providing information about a past conviction for assaulting a police officer in Japan. Okamoto owns a construction business, Hino said.

[matsuki]

Kansai construction business....that's all you really need to hear.