Child Abduction Issue Explodes

[Coligny]

Now deadbeat hikikimory are famousely hated by uyokus... starting with Ishitara... sort of purfekt storm of suck...

[Mock Cockpit]

Cute article on j-mothers who can't get their kids back from dirty foreigners because japan is not member of the Hague convention...

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120605f1.html

Low on details... and seemingly not putting too much accent on the US legal aspect of the thing... except to say that the fathers play by the book stateside...

Didn't knew that wife of us citizen needed to be sponsored for a visa... To access citizenship, yea, might not be an overnight affair... but spouse visa !?

The first case mentioned in the article was a bit vague but in the second case it seems it was really a scummy thing to do by the husband. This has always been a door that swings both ways though and the sooner Hague is ratified the better off everyone will be.

[Coligny]

The first case mentioned in the article was a bit vague but in the second case it seems it was really a scummy thing to do by the husband. This has always been a door that swings both ways though and the sooner Hague is ratified the better off everyone will be.

Actually... this one is the sweetest...

assured her that the children would return to Japan once cold shutdown had been achieved at the troubled reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 plant

Japanese double fucked by their system... first not signing the hague treaty, second completely cluster fucking with Fukushima... Maybe they need something like this to realise that even if they profit sometimes from it their abusive governement is absolutely up to no good except for themselves...

[matsuki]

The first case mentioned in the article was a bit vague but in the second case it seems it was really a scummy thing to do by the husband. This has always been a door that swings both ways though and the sooner Hague is ratified the better off everyone will be.

Sounds that way but put in a position of impending divorce, a bitchy wife, and the way Japan operates when it comes to these issues, I can't blame him for being methodical about it. The interesting thing in both stories mentioned is that the kids are being kept in contact via Skype...not the same as spending time with them but not in the same league as cutting off all contact and badmouthing the other parent in their absence.

[sublight]

[Coligny]

He married a japanese Chav ? talk aboot excessive integration...

[Russell]

The interesting thing in both stories mentioned is that the kids are being kept in contact via Skype...not the same as spending time with them but not in the same league as cutting off all contact and badmouthing the other parent in their absence.

Very true!

It is not that every J-parent cuts off contact of their kids with their ex, but it appears to be quite common.

[Mock Cockpit]

Sounds that way but put in a position of impending divorce, a bitchy wife, and the way Japan operates when it comes to these issues, I can't blame him for being methodical about it.

It is indeed a fine line between methodical and conniving.

[IparryU]

[matsuki]

[Mike Oxlong]

Kidnapper Mom Still on GPS Monitoring—For Now
Emiko Inoue illegally took her daughter, Karina, to Japan and after a four-year battle, she was returned to America. Inoue now faces up to 12 years in prison for two felony charges in Milwaukee County Court.

A woman who kidnapped her daughter and fled to Japan four years ago is trying to get permission from the court to remove the GPS tracking device she has been forced to wear since her return with the girl.

Emiko Inoue, ex-wife of Fox Point resident Moises Garcia, illegally took her daughter to Japan in 2008, and when she returned to Hawaii last year, was arrested for kidnapping and brought to Wisconsin to face charges. She remained in prison until her daughter, Karina, was returned to the United States in December.

Since her release from prison, Inoue has been forced to wear a GPS bracelet which allows the court to monitor her location at all times. She requested in February to have the device removed, and appeared in court Friday for a review hearing before a judge. The judge held off on making a decision, rescheduling the case for September.

Garcia said the GPS monitoring device has offered some solace because Inoue is trackable. He waited in the courtroom friday, fumbling with his fingers in frustration as attorneys talked privately with Judge Mel Flanagan.

Ultimately, there were no on-record statements or testimony made Friday and another review hearing was scheduled for Sept. 25.

"She is being given the benefit of the doubt at this point because if she doesn't comply, then we'll go to sentencing and she'll probably go back to Japan and doesn't maintain a relationship with her child," District Attorney Matt Torbenson said. "And, despite her lack of compliance up till now, I still think it's in the best interest of this child to have two involved parents. But, if she continues down this path, she's only going to be given so much rope," Torbenson said.

Since the return of her daughter, Inoue is required to do two things: sign a document that says that she will not attempt to obtain a visa, passport or any other travel documents; and provide a legitimate, certified copy of the document proving that she has withdrawn her custody appeal in the Japanese Supreme Court. She filed papers in July from the Osaka High Court in Japan saying that she had withdrawn her appeal, however, those documents were not certified and the court requested official copies.

"She's provided us a document that the appeal's been withdrawn, but there's no stamp on it, no certification, nothing that shows us that this is a real and true document from the Japanese courts and that there's nothing left. So, we set a new date to continue to work to accomplish those things," Torbenson said.

"If she doesn't comply with the agreement, then we go to sentencing and she faces up to 12 1/2 years in prison."

Continuted

[Mike Oxlong]

Karina Garcia, Part I: The Abduction

This is the first in an exclusive, three-part series in which Fox Point's Dr. Moises Garcia talks about his 4-year fight to successfully recover his kidnapped daughter, Karina, from Japan. This series chronicles the abduction, Moises' battle to maintain a relationship with her from more than 6,000 miles away, and takes a look at her today, age 10, as she celebrates her first birthday back in America since the abduction.

@ Fox Point Bayside Patch

[matsuki]

Nice to see them following through. As much as I want this bitch locked up for 12.5 years, I worry what message it will send to most Japanese and how it will be continually pushed with her as a poor, innocent, mother and Garcia as a violent and abusive barbarian that only won in US court because he's a citizen.

[IparryU]

Nice to see them following through. As much as I want this bitch locked up for 12.5 years, I worry what message it will send to most Japanese and how it will be continually pushed with her as a poor, innocent, mother and Garcia as a violent and abusive barbarian that only won in US court because he's a citizen.

it will be like that one way or another... just throw her ass in there for 12 years and report the hell out of it. if it gets in the papers here in Japan, then some action might be taken in our lifetimes.

[matsuki]

Nice to see them following through. As much as I want this bitch locked up for 12.5 years, I worry what message it will send to most Japanese and how it will be continually pushed with her as a poor, innocent, mother and Garcia as a violent and abusive barbarian that only won in US court because he's a citizen.

it will be like that one way or another... just throw her ass in there for 12 years and report the hell out of it. if it gets in the papers here in Japan, then some action might be taken in our lifetimes.

I still worry...but I do hope she gets the book thrown at her and that GPS on her til the kid turns 18

[IparryU]

Nice to see them following through. As much as I want this bitch locked up for 12.5 years, I worry what message it will send to most Japanese and how it will be continually pushed with her as a poor, innocent, mother and Garcia as a violent and abusive barbarian that only won in US court because he's a citizen.

it will be like that one way or another... just throw her ass in there for 12 years and report the hell out of it. if it gets in the papers here in Japan, then some action might be taken in our lifetimes.

I still worry...but I do hope she gets the book thrown at her and that GPS on her til the kid turns 18

i dont mind her getting the GPS taken off if she is in jail... but a few years in the slammer with a whole bunch of women who cant see their kids will give her some lessons of life.

[matsuki]

a few years in the slammer with a whole bunch of women who cant see their kids will give her some lessons of life.

THIS　x　99999999999999999999999999

(But still sucks for the girl...though I think life without batshit we Japanese mommy may be better for her in the long run)

[Mike Oxlong]

Karina Garcia, Part II: Fight to Be a Father

In a four-year battle to bring his daughter Karina back home to Fox Point, Dr. Moises Garcia not only learned to speak fluent Japanese, but he spent more than $350,000 on more than three dozen trips to Japan to try and see her.

After learning that his daughter Karina had been abducted and taken to Japan by her mother, Emiko Inoue, in February 2008, Dr. Moises Garcia departed from Fox Point for his native Nicaragua to cope with the loss of his daughter and recharge.

He returned with a focus on the basics — to maintain a relationship with his daughter over the miles while navigating the legal challenges involved in bringing her back home.

Garcia studied many other cases and discovered that the most important aspect of child abduction cases like his was to establish jurisdiction. So he continued divorce proceedings in the United States. Inoue had left the United States on the day she was to be served with divorce papers and Japan does not have process servers. Instead, Garcia said, he had to publish a small summons in a Japanese newspaper for $7,000...

Continued

[Mike Oxlong]

Karina Garcia, Part III: Reintegration to America

As soon as Karina stepped off the plane, her father knew something was very wrong. She could no longer speak any English and her father said she was very untrusting and confused.

As many 10-year-old girls begin to crush on boys, have slumber parties and enter the "tween" years, Karina Garcia is trying to decide the truth behind why she was kidnapped at age 5 and who in her family really does love her.

Karina was kidnapped by her mother, Emiko Inoue, in 2008 and taken from her Fox Point home to Inoue's native Japan on the day that her father, Dr. Moises Garcia, was having divorce papers served.

Garcia fought for a year to win sole custody of the child through American courts. But it would be months before he would see his daughter again, and nearly three years before she would set foot on American soil.

In December 2011, Inoue returned alone to the United States to renew her green card in Hawaii.

However, Garcia's attorney, Jim Sakar, was prepared. He had known she would have to come back to the United States so he sought an arrest warrant for custody interference. Inoue was immediately arrested and extradited to Wisconsin when she landed in Hawaii...

Continued

[matsuki]

http://crcjapan.wordpress.com/

Evidence that the United States government is unconvinced of Japan’s sincerity has recently been highlighted by a new Senate resolution. Bipartisan Senate Resolution 543, dated Aug. 2, 2012, to express the sense of the Senate on international child abduction was introduced by California Sen. Barbara Boxer and 14 other senators, including 2004 Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

In the resolution, Japan is mentioned no less than three times: “Whereas Japan, India and Egypt are not parties to the Hague Abduction Convention and were also among the top 10 countries to which children in the United States were most frequently abducted in 2011″; “Whereas, in many countries, such as Japan and India, international parental child abduction is not considered a crime, and custody rulings made by courts in the United States are not typically recognized by courts in those countries,” and; “Whereas Japan is the only member of the Group of 7 major industrialized countries that has not ratified the Hague Abduction Convention.”

The resolution also quotes the U.S. State Department’s Report on Compliance with the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction from April 2010: “Research shows that abducted children are at risk of significant short and long-term problems, including ‘anxiety, eating problems, nightmares, mood swings, sleep disturbances (and) aggressive behavior’. “

[IparryU]

The resolution also quotes the U.S. State Department’s Report on Compliance with the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction from April 2010: “Research shows that abducted children are at risk of significant short and long-term problems, including ‘anxiety, eating problems, nightmares, mood swings, sleep disturbances (and) aggressive behavior’. “

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Well... that is because they haven't received proper Japanese meals and lack the wa that the deities of Nippon are blessed with...

[gaijinpunch]

She should get a minimum of 6 months jail time.. GPS or not. Japanese court withdrawal documents or not. Who cares how the disillusioned Japanese public see it. No matter what happens 90% will see it as "us vs. them" and I think most of us know here which one has the less totally fucked up culture when it comes to family.

At this point, 'merica needs to send the "we're not fucking around" message at whatever cost.

[GomiGirl]

At this point, 'merica needs to send the "we're not fucking around" message at whatever cost.

Cos that message has been so well received every other time it has been delivered on any number of issues?

Sorry but in this sort of emotionally charged family situation, pulling out the "we are right and you are wrong" card is not going to work. It will make people dig in and resist further. When children are involved, people are not rational, not logical and trying to bully your way into custody is NOT going to get you in the good graces of anybody.

Remember that the people who are abducting these kids are doing it as they truly believe they are doing the right thing for the child and for Japan. Yes there is an element of "fuck you" to the ex-spouse which is an added bonus.

I sometimes can't understand how some relationships really break down to this level - some people really become ugly. I am divorced (no kids from that relationship) and I was burned really badly. That was 20 years ago. I thought the best way out was to walk out quietly and get on with my life. I rarely think about it anymore as I have totally moved on, moved countries and am happy now. Sure things would have been different with kids in the picture.

[Coligny]

Remember that the people who are abducting these kids are doing it as they truly believe they are doing the right thing for the child and for Japan.

I'm REALLY not sure aboot this...

really really really...

Maybe because the first good thing "for the kid" would be not to divorce...

It really read like, fuck you -other-, I'm keeping the house, the car, the kid and the law is with me so double fuck you...

(To be honest... I'm not too surprised you have this reading on the situation... it's coherent with your other expressed positions and advices, me think you still place waaaayyyy to much trust in mankind... Sometimes... the dog deserve to be shot without warning...)

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

It really read like, fuck you -other-, I'm keeping the house, the car, the kid and the law is with me so double fuck you...

I'm with you.

Women do it the world over.

[GomiGirl]

It really read like, fuck you -other-, I'm keeping the house, the car, the kid and the law is with me so double fuck you...

I'm with you.

Women do it the world over.

I didn't... so that is not fair to tar everybody with the same brush.

[gaijinpunch]

Cos that message has been so well received every other time it has been delivered on any number of issues?

Oh, it never has. However, this is one of the few times that

1) America is in the right
2) America is actually on the forefront, and the rest of the free world is actually just sitting there stroking it's balls. (If I'm wrong, citation please). On this issue, I'm actually proud to be American.

Sorry but in this sort of emotionally charged family situation, pulling out the "we are right and you are wrong" card is not going to work.

But *nothing* will work. Are you going to change any japanese people's minds? Of course not. That doesn't mean you shouldn't at least incarcerate them for a bit or do something similarly shocking. Most punitive measures do nothing but we do them anyway. I'm talking about punishment for any crime in this sense.

Remember that the people who are abducting these kids are doing it as they truly believe they are doing the right thing for the child and for Japan.

I don't believe that for a moment. I'm also a man, and not Japanese, so rational thought crosses my brain from time to time, unlike 90% of the people on the offending side of this issue. Whether they think they're doing what's best for child doesn't really matter if the person doing thinking is a fucktard. I don't think a lot of rational thought goes into most people's thoughts (Japanese, or other) when we're talking about the lowest common denominator. I honestly think most child abduction cases are done by the ultimately selfish...even if it's on a subconscience level.

[Coligny]

It really read like, fuck you -other-, I'm keeping the house, the car, the kid and the law is with me so double fuck you...

I'm with you.

Women do it the world over.

woa... not so fast dear sidekick...

I never narrowed the behaviour to a specific gender...

Divorce is equally seen as a battle/looting party from booth sides...

[GomiGirl]

I don't believe that for a moment. I'm also a man, and not Japanese, so rational thought crosses my brain from time to time, unlike 90% of the people on the offending side of this issue. Whether they think they're doing what's best for child doesn't really matter if the person doing thinking is a fucktard. I don't think a lot of rational thought goes into most people's thoughts (Japanese, or other) when we're talking about the lowest common denominator. I honestly think most child abduction cases are done by the ultimately selfish...even if it's on a subconscience level.

Don't get me wrong, I am not excusing these people for abducting their children away from the other parent after divorce. It is morally wrong and criminally wrong in some countries. It is not a criminal issue for Japan and THIS is a problem.

I just don't think the solution is for America to be dishing out the justice against Japanese citizens. This is just going to turn this emotional family issue into a racial one which just makes it that much harder for the central issue - which is what is the best way to handle the welfare of a child in the case of divorce.

What needs to happen (pipe dreams I know) is that the abduction cases need to be seen as criminal cases in the eyes of JAPANESE law. For that to happen Japanese society needs to recognise the denying a child of 50% of their parents is not in the best interest of the child. There are plenty of Japanese Dad's who never get to see their kids either. This is just as morally reprehensible. It is assumed that the non-custodial parent isnt interested in the child after the breakdown of the marriage - this is very rare. It is very sad that when the marriage breaks down, so does the family.

Yes it takes a big person to put aside personal feelings to ensure that the child has a relationship with both parents but it is possible. It takes work. I guess the status quo stands as it is too big a hurdle to change. But there are no standards, no role models, nothing that is seen to be workable other than the non-custodial spouse to just disappear. This issue needs to be brought out into the open and the value of both parents in the life of a child needs to be recognised.

[matsuki]

Don't get me wrong, I am not excusing these people for abducting their children away from the other parent after divorce. It is morally wrong and criminally wrong in some countries. It is not a criminal issue for Japan and THIS is a problem.

I just don't think the solution is for America to be dishing out the justice against Japanese citizens.

FG get Japanese "law" when in Japan...everyone is subject to US law when in the U.S....which is where this bitch was living when she went all Thelma and Louise on the ex hubby. I think the only way Japanese will change their mentality is if the J-gov does...and the only way that's happening here is international pressure from countries like the U.S. Economic sanctions against Japan til they change there ways is pretty awesome if they actually do it. Forced or not, I don't think reason works here and the U.S. standard is an internationally agreed upon standard (Hague) so it's not like it's the US way or you're fucked.