Japan Envoy Criticizes Chinese Textbooks

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Japan Envoy Criticizes Chinese Textbooks

Postby sludge » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:24 am

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TOKYO (AP) -- Chinese textbooks are "extreme" in their interpretation of history, Japan's foreign minister said Sunday, a day after China's president demanded Tokyo do more to improve relations damaged by new Japanese school textbooks that allegedly whitewash Japan's wartime atrocities.
Nobutaka Machimura also defended Japan's textbooks, saying they don't gloss over Japan's invasion of other Asian countries as alleged, and expressed dismay with the lopsided view of history taught in Chinese schools.
"From the perspective of a Japanese person, Chinese textbooks appear to teach that everything the Chinese government has done has been correct," Machimura said on a television talk show. "There is a tendency toward this in any country, but the Chinese textbooks are extreme in they way they uniformly convey the 'our country is correct' perspective."

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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:55 am

It's about time that Japan started pointing this out!

Of course this will get no coverage (or heavily spun & slanted coverage) in the Chinese press... It will be interesting to see if and how it is covered.
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Postby Socratesabroad » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:53 am

Great stuff on Chinese textbooks here
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Postby Socratesabroad » Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:01 pm

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...
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Postby bunchoffuckinggoofs » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:50 pm

FG Lurker wrote:It's about time that Japan started pointing this out!

Of course this will get no coverage (or heavily spun & slanted coverage) in the Chinese press... It will be interesting to see if and how it is covered.


It's getting some coverage in North America, but not nearly enough.
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Postby devicenull » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:30 pm

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Postby Socratesabroad » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:21 am

devicenull wrote:Get a shell account from outside the country. Grab a copy of SSH, run "ssh -l <login> -D <port> <server.address.net>". Then set your proxy settings to SOCKS4/5 127.0.0.1:<port>

Works like a charm, and it's encrypted.


Cheers for the info. I've been using an account outside China, so I've pretty much resolved the problems I mentioned but what irks me is having them in the first place (the likes of which I'm sure you, dn, are also fully aware).

No or intermittent Internet access - it's the 3rd world, beggars can't be choosers.
But to have access - and then have it hobbled in my own home...

Since I have no obvious political leanings and no desire to topple the existing regime, the need to circumvent restricted Internet access...well, it's just another thump to an already aching noggin.
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Postby devicenull » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:44 am

Socratesabroad wrote:
devicenull wrote:Get a shell account from outside the country. Grab a copy of SSH, run "ssh -l <login> -D <port> <server.address.net>". Then set your proxy settings to SOCKS4/5 127.0.0.1:<port>

Works like a charm, and it's encrypted.


Cheers for the info. I've been using an account outside China, so I've pretty much resolved the problems I mentioned but what irks me is having them in the first place (the likes of which I'm sure you, dn, are also fully aware).

No or intermittent Internet access - it's the 3rd world, beggars can't be choosers.
But to have access - and then have it hobbled in my own home...

Since I have no obvious political leanings and no desire to topple the existing regime, the need to circumvent restricted Internet access...well, it's just another thump to an already aching noggin.


Yea, well aware of the stupidity of it all. Internet is one of those things that I do like appreciate tomfuckery with when it comes to my access. I can understand why the dinosaurs in the politiburo want to control access to information. But, god, it's the internet, they will never tame it anyways. If you need a streamlined SSH client for windows, I can hook you up with the files taken out of a cygwin install :)

Before I started using this method, I spent about 25% of my time online just making proxy lists... god that shit was annoying.
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Postby maraboutslim » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:42 am

bunchoffuckinggoofs wrote:It's getting some coverage in North America, but not nearly enough.


Yep, not much coverage. There was a small story on page A-4 of the SF Chronicle yesterday.
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