U.N To Assess Discrimination in Japan

[Mulboyne]

Doudou Diene
Kyodo via Japan Today: U.N. racism expert to visit Japan on fact-finding mission on foreigners, minorities
A U.N. expert on racism and discrimination will visit Japan in July for the first time, at the invitation of the Japanese government, to assess the situation of minorities and foreigners in Japanese society. Doudou Diene of Senegal, special rapporteur of the Commission on Human Rights on contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance, will arrive in Japan this weekend for his fact-finding mission through July 12. Diene said Wednesday he has asked the Japanese government for an invitation to allow him to study the perception and interaction of foreigners and minorities within Japanese society..."As a world power in an era of globalization, Japan has to expand to the outside world. But its society is still closed, spiritually and intellectually centered,"...He said he has specifically requested a meeting with Tokyo Gov Shintaro Ishihara...more...

[oyajikun]

This should be good..

[Taro Toporific]

[sirwanksalot]

--they would not be shot for driving while black, unlike the US[

[Taro Toporific]

--they would not be shot for driving while black, unlike the US

Hey, that's always the first thing the Africans here tell me: It's hell to be black-black and an illegal alien in the States.

[Blah Pete]

He said he has specifically requested a meeting with Tokyo Gov Shintaro Ishihara or a senior representative from his office.

I hope they televise this meeting live.

He will also examine how asylum seekers are treated upon their arrival.

And Taro thinks DWB in the states in bad....

[amdg]

He said he has specifically requested a meeting with Tokyo Gov Shintaro Ishihara or a senior representative from his office.

Diene will focus on minorities of Korean and Chinese descent, while also looking into the situation that migrants f r o m the rest of Asia, the Arab world and Africa find themselves in as they settle in Japan.

He wants to learn about the Ainu minority and "burakumin" (a minority group of social outcasts). He will also examine how asylum seekers are treated upon their arrival.

So in other words, he knows nothing from the get go.

[Blah Pete]

So in other words, he knows nothing from the get go.

Yeah, I agree. When it mentioned Burakumin and Ainu I lost hope. Sounds like one of those nubs that comes here after reading one of those Japan management is the beat in the world or Japanese economic miracle books. Slightly behind the times

[L S]

I'll try to find out what happens behindthe closed doors from my friends at UNU in Tokyo. I'm hoping they will get the real scoop.

[Greji]

[quote"...He said he has specifically requested a meeting with Tokyo Gov Shintaro Ishihara[/quote]

That is a great first step. Blinky will be able to immediately dispel all this trash about zenophobia and predjudice that this guy has been blindly led to believe actually exists in the land of the rising sun.


BTW, I don't normally like to throw everyone in one bag the way the J's do, but my boss met with a Minister of State from Senegal at a fairly high level International Conference in Paris. He asked almost begged us) to accept two of his staff (one was his private secretary) for a two week research project on our industry to help him "chart out" his future planning for their the country. We accepted, sent a car to pick them up on arrival at at Narita and transported them to their hotel in Tokyo-tonai. I went to pick them up the next morning to begin their research program and they had already checked out to parts unknown. That was during the World Cup in Japan (interrestingly) and we haven't heard from them since! Their Ambassador sent us a letter of apology for "any inconveniences, but we still don't know where they went. Immigrations had no record of them leaving Japan!

Could they have been laying the groundwork for the meeting with Blinky?

[nullpointer]

....and we haven't heard from them since! Their Ambassador sent us a letter of apology for "any inconveniences, but we still don't know where they went. Immigrations had no record of them leaving Japan!

I guess Shinjuku and roppongi on a friday night would be where you may expect to find them. On one side or the other.

[mondogondo]

I've been watching the members of the UNHRC for a while anyhow and it is nothing more than a joke.
Here's a link from 2003 with a good discription of the composition of the commission.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/cRosett/?id=110002944

[blackcat]

good link.

If blinky the racist cunt will meet him at all.......it seems to be a deal in the works.

Libya will join the IWC and vote for commercial whaling.....some free concreting in Libya needless dams/highways etc.

and of course a clean bill of(human rights) health for the country with the

HIGHEST forced deportation
LOWEST refugee acceptance
MOST XENOPHOBIC media/police
3 TIER ranking human trafficking

in thw world

JAPAN

[emperor]

Anyone have those statistics of gaijins committing crimes in japan?
(The proportion of foreigners to japanese population-wise, and the percentage of crimes that gaijin are actually responsible for.)

[Tsuru]

Perhaps one of the reasons for the Japanese to be so abhorrently xenophobic is the fact that a higher percentage of gaijin who come to Japan are involved in crime than the percentage of nihonjin. So rather than looking at the total amount of crime and looking at which percentage is comitted by nihonjin and gaijin, look at it f r o m the perspective of the group itself. As that's how most nihonjin seem to judge these things, anyway.

And besides that, itsn't Japan one of the easiest industrialized countries in the world to do something against the law and get away with it? Maybe that is a pull-factor in why there are so many gaijin there who are involved in illegal activities... just like hot girls and (god forbid) anime are pull factors for Japan for other people.

[Kurofune]

I knew a Korean woman who was home when her apartment was burglarized (she hid under her bed when she heard the door being opened, then watched the guy's feet go around the apartment as he went through her stuff). She said the city's finest showed up 40 minutes after she called them. They looked at a few things and deduced whether the burglar was Japanese (I forget which they said). After commenting on how nice her apartment was and asking what she paid for rent, they went on to explain that Japanese burglarize much differently from foreigners. From the way the Korean woman explained it, it sounded like this estimate of the burglar's nationality would be listed in the report and added to the statistics.

[Kurofune]

oops -- double posted.

[homesweethome]

Emporer:

Anyone have those statistics of gaijins committing crimes in japan?
(The proportion of foreigners to japanese population-wise, and the percentage of crimes that gaijin are actually responsible for.)

STATISTICS FOR CRIME IN JAPAN, JAN-JUNE 2003
(Courtesy http://www.npa.go.jp/toukei/index.htm in Japanese only)

Total Crimes Reported: 1,338,983 cases
Total Cleared Cases of Crime: 290,480 cases (clearance rate of 21.7%)
Total Number of Cleared Perpetrators: 169,992 people
These statistics include foreign crime cases and criminals.

STATISTICS FOR FOREIGN CRIME IN JAPAN, JAN-JUNE 2003
(Courtesy http://www.npa.go.jp/kokusaihanzai/index.htm in Japanese only)

Total Cleared Cases of Foreign Crime: 12,507 cases

(Total Cleared Cases including visa violations: 18,579 cases**
**NB: We prefer to leave out visa violations because Japanese by definition cannot commit these crimes, and we want comparable numbers for comparable crimes.)

Total Number of Cleared Foreign Perpetrators (leaving out visa violations): 4016 people

Total Cleared Crime Perpetrators Jan-June 2003: 169,992 people
Total Cleared Japanese Perps only Jan-June 2003:

(169,992- 4016 foreign cases) = 165,976 Japanese people

Total Cleared Japanese Perps for Jan-June 2002: 162,282
Total Cleared Japanese Perps only Jan-June 2003:

(162,282 - 3645 foreign cases) = 158,637 Japanese people

Change in numbers (165,976 - 158,637) = +7339 people
Change in Japanese crime rate during Jan-June 2003: (7339/158,637) +4.6%

I'm not sure, but according to this, it looks like 2.6% of crimes committed involve gaijin (1.7% of the population) BUT, these statistics are compiled by the police for their own purposes. These were used to show that visa violators are the perpetrators of all sort of crime in Japan. Is visa violation a crime? I suppose so. Do all visa violators subsequently commit other crimes? Maybe some do out of desperation, but this is doubtful since they usually end up deported anyway and live their lives here in fear of drawing any attention to themselves. It also ignores that crime rate figures are also rising (in disproportion to the static/decline of Japanese in the population, and the rate of rise in the population of non-Japanese (gaijin). Dubious figures in my humble, but check them out.

Also of interest is how these were used by Ishihara and his police buddies to get more money from the xynephobes in elected office for cracking down on the foreign crime element

[Socratesabroad]

[homesweethome]

Tsuru says:

And besides that, itsn't Japan one of the easiest industrialized countries in the world to do something against the law and get away with it?

Like what? Please tell me in gross detail, if it's anything except: let's teach English to the stupid natives I would do it.

[Akito]

Does everyone think there is a problem with racism though? (anymore than in any other country?) Stories please.

[FG Lurker]

[Greji]

[quote="""]Does everyone think there is a problem with racism ,

Duh, new to Japan?

[Samurai_Jerk]

Does everyone think there is a problem with racism ,

Duh, new to Japan?

The full question is "anymore than any other country?". I think that's a valid question. I don't think Japan is any more racist than other countries and is probably far less racist than some.

[Socratesabroad]

[homesweethome]

Doudou Deine (a.k.a. Akita) wrote:

Does everyone think there is a problem with racism though? (anymore than in any other country?) Stories please.

'Ano Nee' Doudou, this is not the way to do your job; just come to Japan, spend the poor deprived U.N.'s money on a 'fact finding mission' get youself drunk and laid in R-pongi, and then just check in at the local 'web-cafe' for the results of your fact finding mission? on the way to Narita?

Shame, shame and triple shame on you Doudou

[Greji]

[quote="drunk and laid in R-pongi[/quote"]

Great plan. He can probably finance his trip handing out a few flyers with the fellows!

[Akito]

Doudou Deine (a.k.a. Akita) wrote:

Does everyone think there is a problem with racism though? (anymore than in any other country?) Stories please.

Busted!
Looks like I'm going to have to come back as a new member...

[homesweethome]

Doudou Diene of Senegal, special rapporteur

Hey Akito, I must have missed this, you are a RAPPER? Hey, your cool.

[blackcat]

samurai jerk

"The full question is "anymore than any other country?". I think that's a valid question. I don't think Japan is any more racist than other countries and is probably far less racist than some"
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DISAGREE
JAPAN can be and is EXTREMELY racist.

Govenor of any other major city in the world calling people "niggers" criminal DNA quotes etc??

Highest forced deportation/lowest refugee accentance in the developed world.

Media/education sterotyping of foreigners as criminals or likely criminals

banning non japanese from countless establishments across japan

World Cup frenzy panic as all tourists coming to japan are "hooligans"

Immigration site with "report you local gaijin" could be an overstayer, makes you fel uncomfortable/ etc.

the list goes on and on...