Korean comfort women with a twist

[Taro Toporific]

[puargs]

Where do you get these pictures, taro??

[Tsuru]

This is a partial screen from "Full Metal Jacket".

The famous "me so horny" scene when the hooker lifts up her skirt for the picture.

[puargs]

Oh I gotcha, but I mean more in general... Taro must have a hard drive full of the most random ass pictures. No really, ass pictures.

[Taro Toporific]

...a hard drive full of the most random ass pictures. No really, ass pictures.

[SIZE="7"]Me so horny.[/SIZE]

[Bucky]

Nothing like a female breakwater to prevent the FG GI's from abusing the natives polluting the Japanese gene pool.

TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- Japan's abhorrent practice of enslaving women to provide sex for its troops in World War II has a little-known sequel: After its surrender -- with tacit approval from the U.S. occupation authorities -- Japan set up a similar "comfort women" system for American GIs.
An Associated Press review of historical documents and records shows American authorities permitted the official brothel system to operate despite internal reports that women were being coerced into prostitution. The Americans also had full knowledge by then of Japan's atrocious treatment of women in countries across Asia that it conquered during the war.
Tens of thousands of women were employed to provide cheap sex to U.S. troops until the spring of 1946, when Gen. Douglas MacArthur shut the brothels down.
The documents show the brothels were rushed into operation as American forces poured into Japan beginning in August 1945."Sadly, we police had to set up sexual comfort stations for the occupation troops," recounts the official history of the Ibaraki Prefectural Police Department, whose jurisdiction is just northeast of Tokyo. "The strategy was, through the special work of experienced women, to create a breakwater to protect regular women and girls."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/25/comfort.women.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[kurohinge1]

. . .

. . . Japan's abhorrent practice of enslaving women to provide sex for its troops in World War II has a little-known sequel: After its surrender -- with tacit approval from the U.S. occupation authorities -- Japan set up a similar "comfort women" system for American GIs . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/25/comfort.women.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

. . . Though arranged and supervised by the police and civilian government, the system mirrored the comfort stations established by the Japanese military abroad during the war.

Kaburagi wrote that occupation GIs paid upfront and were given tickets and condoms. The first RAA brothel, called Komachien -- The Babe Garden -- had 38 women, but due to high demand that was quickly increased to 100. Each woman serviced from 15 to 60 clients a day.

American historian John Dower, in his book "Embracing Defeat: Japan in the Wake of WWII," says the charge for a short session with a prostitute was 15 yen, or about a dollar, roughly the cost of half a pack of cigarettes.

Kaburagi said the sudden demand forced brothel operators to advertise for women who were not licensed prostitutes.

Natsue Takita, a 19-year-old Komachien worker whose relatives had been killed in the war, responded to an ad seeking an office worker. She was told the only positions available were for comfort women and was persuaded to accept the offer.

According to Kaburagi's memoirs, published in Japanese after the occupation ended in 1952, Takita jumped in front of a train a few days after the brothel started operations.

"The worst victims ... were the women who, with no previous experience, answered the ads calling for `Women of the New Japan,"' he wrote.

. . . The U.S. occupation leadership provided the Japanese government with penicillin for comfort women servicing occupation troops, established prophylactic stations near the RAA brothels and, initially, condoned the troops' use of them, according to documents discovered by Tanaka.

Occupation leaders were not blind to the similarities between the comfort women procured by Japan for its own troops and those it recruited for the GIs.

A Dec. 6, 1945, memorandum from Lt. Col. Hugh McDonald, a senior officer with the Public Health and Welfare Division of the occupation's General Headquarters, shows U.S. occupation forces were aware the Japanese comfort women were often coerced.

. . . Amid complaints from military chaplains and concerns that disclosure of the brothels would embarrass the occupation forces back in the U.S., on March 25, 1946, MacArthur placed all brothels, comfort stations and other places of prostitution off limits. The RAA soon collapsed.

MacArthur's primary concern was not only a moral one.

By that time, Tanaka says, more than a quarter of all American GIs in the occupation forces had a sexually transmitted disease . . . more

Omiyage-rinbyou?



And in a similar vein (:oops: ), I vaguely remember my Japanese teacher explaining that the post-war onsen temperature was regulated (maybe only for Tokyo) to be no less than (I think) 43 degrees C to ensure no transmission of sexual disease in the water.

I no longer balk at how hot an onsen is anymore.

[GomiGirl]

Prostitution is a supply and demand market.

BTW a piece of useless trivia. The brothels in Golden Gai were "blue line" ie off limits to all US service personel. Some of the original sex workers are still living in the neighbourhood.

[Mulboyne]

...The brothels in Golden Gai were "blue line" ie off limits to all US service personel. Some of the original sex workers are still living in the neighbourhood.

And presumably off limits now for a different reason.

[GomiGirl]

And presumably off limits now for a different reason.

Am thinking barge-poles and touch factors are the reason.

[Blah Pete]

Prostitution is a supply and demand market.

BTW a piece of useless trivia. The brothels in Golden Gai were "blue line" ie off limits to all US service personel. Some of the original sex workers are still living in the neighbourhood.

I worked with a guy who was here from 1946 and said there were ways to get around the restrictions. Most houses were raided by MPs so to hide GIs they had secret hidden compartments below the tatami. Seems he spent a lot of time under the floor during raids.

[American Oyaji]

That story was in the papers here in the U.S. today. Not front page, but I made sure I left it open to that page in the cafe here at the #2 J-auto

[Mulboyne]

U.S. sailors gather in front of a Yasu-ura House in Yokosuka, south of Tokyo, one of many 'comfort stations' set up by Japan after its surrender to provide sex for American GIs. From here.

Gboothe, I assume the paper got approval to use your picture?

[Greji]

U.S. sailors gather in front of a Yasu-ura House in Yokosuka, south of Tokyo, one of many 'comfort stations' set up by Japan after its surrender to provide sex for American GIs. From here.

Gboothe, I assume the paper got approval to use your picture?

I was working in the ticket booth, someone else was handling publicity!

[Takechanpoo]

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[kamome]

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Great post, Takeapoo. I respect Fareed Zakaria as a journalist, and it was nice to see the Japanese point of view so well articulated by Komori. Komori made some statements (i.e., about the voluntary nature of the prostitutes) that need some factual proof.

One point that was never brought up is the fact that, despite the apologies made by prime ministers in the past, the government has shown disregard for Japan's actions in WWII by whitewashing history textbooksor continuing to visit Yasukuni jinja. It's not surprising that the Koreans and Chinese, when they see how the government is denying the facts of the past, feel that the apologies ring hollow.

[Behan]

Komori is full of shit with some of the things he says. He claims that all of Japan's atrocities, unlike Germany's, happened on the field of battle.
He is conveniently leaving out biological testing on Chinese civilians, the rape of Nanking, etc.
And even if it wasn't national policy to coerce women into prostiution there is no way that the government couldn't know it was happening. By providing the customers for these places they bear the greatest guilt.
Claims that the Japanese are being accused of being 'genetically wrong' seem like a hysterical attempt at getting sympathy.
To some degree there might be some 'Japan Bashing' going on but what a convenient term that is. It's a like a magic weapon to be drawn out when people don't like criticism of Japan. It serves to take out any legiticism of the criticism.

[Behan]

Saturday, April 28, 2007

PROTEST OUTSIDE WHITE HOUSE
Former sex slave joins call for Abe apology
WASHINGTON (Kyodo) Outside the White House on Thursday, a survivor of Japan's wartime brothels lent her impassioned voice to protesters seeking a formal apology from Tokyo and Prime Minister Shinzo Abe...

Young Soo Lee, 78, who was forced to work as a "comfort woman" in Japan's wartime military-run brothels...

Young Soo Lee, 78, was abducted by Japanese soldiers in Korea in 1943 and was forced to do sex work at a military base in Taiwan for three years...
Speaking to about 100 demonstrators at the rally, Lee said Tokyo has "never had a true remorseful attitude" about its actions during the war...

Lee told of how Japanese soldiers came in the night to her home to take her and of beatings and torture with electrical wires while she was in the brothel.

"I still suffer from the physical injuries that I received from that," she said.

Lee said she backed a resolution before the U.S. House of Representatives to urge Tokyo to officially acknowledge and apologize for forcing women to serve in the military-run brothels during the war.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/mail/nn20070428a4.html

[kamome]

Komori is full of shit with some of the things he says. He claims that all of Japan's atrocities, unlike Germany's, happened on the field of battle.
He is conveniently leaving out biological testing on Chinese civilians, the rape of Nanking, etc.
And even if it wasn't national policy to coerce women into prostiution there is no way that the government couldn't know it was happening. By providing the customers for these places they bear the greatest guilt.
Claims that the Japanese are being accused of being 'genetically wrong' seem like a hysterical attempt at getting sympathy.
To some degree there might be some 'Japan Bashing' going on but what a convenient term that is. It's a like a magic weapon to be drawn out when people don't like criticism of Japan. It serves to take out any legiticism of the criticism.

Yeah, the Japan bashing/racism talking points took me by surprise, too. I don't know where that comes from and it's a very weak argument given that much of the criticism comes from Asian countries (even though the US Congress has recently waded into that debate).

And you are right that even if the military did not have an official policy, they gave it tacit approval. Since the military is an extension of the government, there's no real difference and thus neither the military nor the government can claim any higher moral ground to stand on.

[Tsuru]

Yeah, the Japan bashing/racism talking points took me by surprise, too. I don't know where that comes from and it's a very weak argument given that much of the criticism comes from Asian countries (even though the US Congress has recently waded into that debate).

And you are right that even if the military did not have an official policy, they gave it tacit approval. Since the military is an extension of the government, there's no real difference and thus neither the military nor the government can claim any higher moral ground to stand on.

It's not just Asian countries either. Until they declared their independence in 1948 Indonesia was still Dutch territory, and after Abe's little stunt the Japanese ambassador to The Netherlands got his head kicked in by the Dutch foreign minister. For what it's worth, I'll have you know a lot of Dutch women living in the colonies were also "coerced" into sex slavery by the Japanese after they kicked our asses on the Java sea. I reckon that as far as they are concerned, the argument that the claim of forced prostitution is being made to "save face" and that most of them actually engaged voluntarily is nonsense.

If you want to know more about the treatment of Dutch nationals during the Japanese occupation of Indonesia you might want to Google "Jappenkamp", the Dutch word for the Japanese internment camps in Indonesia.

[Behan]

A president of Nova's teachers' union back in the 90s told me that he spent the first few years of his life in a Japanese internment camp. If I remember correctly he was of Dutch ancestry(but had lived all around the world) and that they were in Indonesia at the time.
His father was a doctor and thought it would be better if he were born before they were interned so he induced his birth early.
Too young to have any memories until the end of the internment, after they were freed he remembers being give some bananas and getting sick from eating them because they had undoubtedly been on a very poor diet during those years.
He doubted that he would have ever come to Japan if he could have remembered what it was like in the camp.

[Takechanpoo]

i will disregard this problem until i die.
ignoring is the best way.

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[kamome]

ignoring is the best way.

...to abdicate responsibility? Yep, I guess it is.

[Tommybar]

[quote="Mulboyne"]

U.S. sailors gather in front of a Yasu-ura House in Yokosuka, south of Tokyo, one of many 'comfort stations' set up by Japan after its surrender to provide sex for American GIs. From here.

Up until about 8 years ago, there were still many 'comfort stations' in the Yasuura area. In fact, The House of Running Water is still in operation just outside the back gate of Yokosuka. I think it is still the same people running it from the 40's.

[dimwit]

i will disregard this problem until i die.
ignoring is the best way.

[YT]YXHVEaN48Ls[/YT]

I love that video! It explains alot about the workings of the Japanese justice system. Statements of witnesses, victims and perpetrators are meaningless useless criminals are as dumb as hamsters to leave a paper trail and not have sense to burn it.

[Greji]

i will disregard this problem until i die.
ignoring is the best way.

Which of course to you and your MuMs buds, this video proves without a doubt that nothing like that ever happened!

If you can listen to that guy's presentation and believe it, then just disregard away and enjoy yourself!

[Behan]

From Answer 5:

"None of all registered ex-prostitutes' testimonies hasn't been reliable at all."

Well, at least he got one thing right.

Just joking. My Japanese is even worse.

[succubusqueen]

[quote="Takechanpoo"]i will disregard this problem until i die.
ignoring is the best way.



You have broken my heart ..Takechanpoo!!:rolleyes:

[Takechanpoo]

You have broken my heart ..Takechanpoo!!:rolleyes:

[Takechanpoo]

i shamelessly changed my thought about so-called "comfort women" by reading this person's articles
domo arigatoh, Hayashi Hirofumisan.