Lying about job qualifications

[canman]

I think this is the first time I've heard of people lying about their lack of education, as opposed to them lying about having more than they really did. I guess some people will do anything for a job.
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200611040144.html

[Tsuru]

If they do a good job what difference does it make? It's only in areas where lack of knowledge or experience can cost lives or material damage that stuff like this really does matter.

But we're talking cooks and managers here, so no big deal. Anyone can get an MBA these days

[Blah Pete]

If they do a good job what difference does it make? It's only in areas where lack of knowledge or experience can cost lives or material damage that stuff like this really does matter.

But we're talking cooks and managers here, so no big deal. Anyone can get an MBA these days

The problem is they took jobs that were set aside for people with minimum education. These were sort of like equal opportunity jobs.

[AssKissinger]

Well shit, being educated doesn't make being unemployed any easier.

[GuyJean]

Well shit, being educated doesn't make being unemployed any easier.

No, but being educated should make it easier to find work.. If one can't find work after a proper education, maybe it was neither an 'education'.. nor 'proper'.

I know what you mean though; 'Blue collar' skills are nice when that 'education' creates a struggling suit-monkey.. Electricians and plumbers make good money.

GJ

[kamome]

[quote="GuyJean"]No, but being educated should make it easier to find work.. If one can't find work after a proper education, maybe it was neither an 'education'.. nor 'proper'. ]

This isn't necessarily true. Being "educated" at a certain level is great when the economy is good. When the economy turns sour, and people are getting laid off, a highly educated person who is willing to take lesser-paying jobs to make ends meet is going to have a hard time finding work because he's "over qualified" or the employer thinks that the person will jump ship for a job that pays better once the economy improves.

[Tsuru]

The problem is they took jobs that were set aside for people with minimum education. These were sort of like equal opportunity jobs.

Point taken. Still, if they do a good job why ask them to leave? If they were chosen to do this job in the first place then that means they were chosen in favor of someone else that they though was not as fit to do the job as they were. Either that or they were the only ones who applied to do these jobs.

If they really want to turn back time to put everything right they should at least give that poor old woman back her husband and make the person who came out second quit their current job to start working this job, no matter the promotions they have gotten in the meantime at their other position.

[Mulboyne]

I think this is the first time I've heard of people lying about their lack of education

And yet FG has seen this before...

[GuyJean]

When the economy turns sour, and people are getting laid off, a highly educated person who is willing to take lesser-paying jobs to make ends meet is going to have a hard time finding work because he's "over qualified" or the employer thinks that the person will jump ship for a job that pays better once the economy improves.

You're right; it's always easier on the less educated when the economy turns sour.

I understand what you mean.. I just think being educated means having more options than someone who isn't.. But those damned out-of-work lawyers keep stealing those high paying ditch-digging jobs.

GJ

[Bag of Bones]

In Japan, the only thing the employers really want you to have, besides being able to sound like you can speak English, is a pulse.



[SIZE="6"]You're Hired!!!![/SIZE]

[canman]

And that was right in my backyard.
I think the thing about this mini-scandal is the fact that these were public servant jobs, which means cash for life in Japan doesn't it, and that they were set aside for those who hadn't for whatever reason, attained higher education. But whatever happened to hiring the most qualified or the best person for the job. It seems we are too worried about what degrees or what titles people have, when we should worry more about their ability.

[Choeki]

As far as I've seen it gets ridiculous on both ends of the spectrum. Granted, I've only really been looking at the jobs offered to foreigners, but I've seen so many opportunities looking for inflated credentials offering little in return I'm wondering just who is getting jobs these days. For example:

ATTN: Job Opportunity - Desktop Technicican Assistant

Salary: $35,000 - 40,000USD per year based on experience

Duties: Maintain and install desktop office software, clean and occasionally upgrade desktop computers, maintain and supply office printers, occasional heavy lifting.

Requirements: MS in electrical engineering or software engineering with 5+ years of experience in the IT field. MCSE certification a must, Cisco Optical Specialist certification optional (but desired).

Application process: Applicants must participate in a pre-screening examination consisting of a 1000 word essay (30-minute time limit) and a knowledge based short answer exam (20-minute time limit). Selected candidates will then be expected to participate in an (unpaid, voluntary) 2-week orientation, followed by a 3-month probationary period at half-salary.

[American Oyaji]

Yeah, for the credentials they are asking, they aint payin much.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Choeki,

Where the hell did you see that advertised? That's gotta be a joke.

[Choeki]

I was being sarcastic. However, I have seen similar jobs available (on Monster.com) so I just lumped some of the worst qualities of their announcements together. GaijinPot is worse though, with rather insulting salaries for positions they want filled by people with post-graduate degrees - I've seen better paid JETs.

[Charles]

I was being sarcastic. However, I have seen similar jobs available (on Monster.com) so I just lumped some of the worst qualities of their announcements together. GaijinPot is worse though, with rather insulting salaries for positions they want filled by people with post-graduate degrees - I've seen better paid JETs.

There used to be a really good blog, fuckthatjob.com with tons of listings like that, but alas, the site is now dead. It used to be a good laugh when someone found a really horrendous job listing and sent it to the blog, and sometimes the people who offered the job would actually come on the blog to defend their ad! That was always a good flame-fest. The site is dead but I can still see a few articles on their RSS feed, here's a good example:

Job Title: Computer Programmer/Technical Analyst

Description
Job Order #: 4872011

Posted: 14-Jan-2005

Job Title: Computer Programmer/Technical Analyst

Location:
REGINA

Details:
Job located in White City, Sask.
Fluent in Russian and English
Knowledge and experience with technical stock analysis
At least two years experience of programming with stockcharts.com
Knowledge and experience with Russian web hosting services
Knowledge and experience with trading on Russian and North American stock exchanges
Duties:
To program scans with stockcharts.com
To design and implement home pages on Russian servers

Employment Terms:
Part Time

Wage/Salary Info:
$10.00 per hour

# of Positions: 1

Sticking with the bilingual theme, here's another goodie (it appears spanish-english bilinguals are cheaper than Florida swampland).

[quote]Location: US-FL-Miami
Base Pay: $13,000/Year
Other Pay: Medical / Dental / 401K
Employee Type: Full-Time Employee
Industry: Advertising
Manages Others: yes
Job Type: Design
Marketing
Professional Services
Req'd Education: High School
Req'd Experience: More than 5 Years
Req'd Travel: Negligible
Relocation Covered: No


Contact: Juan Pineda Phone: Not Available
Email: Send Email Now Fax: Not Available

Ref ID: Not Available

DESCRIPTION

Spanish Creative Director / Copywriter

International advertising agency located in Miami seeks and accomplished
Creative Director to join their staff on a fulltime basis.

This position requires extensive copywriting experience and the ability to
write for both Hispanic and English markets.

We are looking for an “]