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New School Beatings To Stop School Bullying

Postby Mulboyne » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:58 am

[floatl]Image[/floatl]BBC: Japan schools to rethink beating
Japanese schools should rethink their decades-old ban on corporal punishment, a government-appointed panel has urged. The report, submitted amid growing concern over bullying, stopped short of overtly backing beating, but suggested an end to a policy of leniency...Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has called the report "wonderful"...Alarmed by the trend of bullying deaths, the panel, chaired by the Nobel laureate Ryoji Noyori, urged schools last November to punish classroom bullies and crack down on teachers who ignored the problem...The report urges an end to the recent policy of leniency in schools, which had been initiated in response to the growing pressures on children to get high scores on tests, but which critics blame for a drop in standards. It also suggests increasing class hours from around 3,900 hours per year to a little over 4,000 hours, compulsory public service and a switch in the start of the school year from April to the autumn. Since 1947, anything from punishing children by making them stand out in the hall to physically striking them is banned...more...
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Postby Big Booger » Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:51 pm

I think this is great. I hope they bring it back because I am itching to discipline a few naughty 14 and 15 year old junior high school boys.

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Or at least allow children to be suspended, expelled, or removed from classrooms when they cause trouble. I hate how these little bastards can wreak havoc on a class and be allowed to continue on throughout the day as if nothing happened..

Teachers even chase down the naughty shitbags and force them to return to the classroom even after they've intentionally broken windows, assaulted students, assaulted teachers, vandalized the school, or any other number of wicked things...

The policy now is not working... but changing to a system that allows abuse is not really the best answer. But I can guarantee you, if they allow corporal punishment, I am going to join right in... god forbid I become that nail that sticks up. ;)
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:46 pm

Big Booger wrote:I hope they bring it back because I am itching to discipline a few naughty 14 and 15 year old junior high school boys.


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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:57 pm

I'm all for beating the fuck out shitbag kids even though it won't help solve the discipline problems. Boogie, you're right, they need to get those little fuckers out of the classroom. Educate the kids that want to learn but forget about those that don't. I wish there was some way to educate those little punks but there isn't. What teachers and school board people need to accept is that the little Hell-Raiser types are impossible to educate. With years of experience I've almost never seen ANY teacher do anything effective with the incorrigible types. But I've seen endless classes destroyed by one or two stupid fucking monkey types. Send the fucking monkeys to the zoo for Christ's sake. If a kid really doesn't want to be in school I'm against forcing him to be there. And at the least, keep them out of the classes with good kids or NOBODY will get an education.
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Postby Oradea » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:11 pm

Nah nah nah.
BB and AK, you really have gotten the wrong end of the stick this time.
Bad puns need no excusing.

What we really gotta do is this:

Get the kids whose behaviour is really atrocious, and get in the mother.
If anyone is in need of a good smacking, surely its her.
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Postby Big Booger » Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:07 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Fag

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Postby Big Booger » Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:11 am

AssKissinger wrote:I'm all for beating the fuck out shitbag kids even though it won't help solve the discipline problems. Boogie, you're right, they need to get those little fuckers out of the classroom. Educate the kids that want to learn but forget about those that don't. I wish there was some way to educate those little punks but there isn't. What teachers and school board people need to accept is that the little Hell-Raiser types are impossible to educate. With years of experience I've almost never seen ANY teacher do anything effective with the incorrigible types. But I've seen endless classes destroyed by one or two stupid fucking monkey types. Send the fucking monkeys to the zoo for Christ's sake. If a kid really doesn't want to be in school I'm against forcing him to be there. And at the least, keep them out of the classes with good kids or NOBODY will get an education.

I've brought one of the little fucks down before he turned out to be a bad boy. I basically called him out in front of everyone... told him to stop smart mouthing and to quit trying to be cool... because all it is going to get him is a fucked up job and fucked up life.

To this day, that kid studies harder than any other of his classmates. I hope he turns out decent because for about 6 months he was a monster and a half.

But the overwhelming majority of those that belong in a toilet, are beyond redemption... they need prison not school. One of those little fuckers the other day spit a huge fucking gob of phlegm on my car windshield... fucking asshole. He'll be the first I fucking beat down if they allow corporal punishment...
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:05 am

A lot of the bad kids come from broken homes where they are subject to physical & emotion violence from other family members. They just pass it along at school. There needs to be more/better social services for those sorts of kids. School isn't the place where these sorts of problems can be dealt with effectively. They need a different environment to work this shit out. The classroom only exacerbates the problem, and makes life tough for kids whose home life ain't so bad.
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Postby AssKissinger » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:30 pm

I agree with you Mike.

The problem is, while they're working shit out they're not being educated. Of course, you're still right because a kid who isn't properly socialized can't be educated anyway. But the real and sad truth is that kids who haven't received the proper emotional nourishment at home are actually beyond academic salvation probably by the time they are six years old. Nobody wants to say 'Well, let's just give up on these kids.' But if you work in the field, like I have, and you're honest with yourself about the situation, you have to admit that even dedicating your whole life to the problem will only amount to a dribble of piss in the pacific ocean. We might as well invest all the resources into encouraging better parenting skills.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:09 am

Big Booger wrote:Pole smoker.. yo mama.


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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:18 pm

AssKissinger wrote: We might as well invest all the resources into encouraging better parenting skills.

The info you get from City Hall when you're expecting a little one is all aimed at very basic parenting info/skills. Things you'll need, basic care, what momma should do, what papa should do...stuff most of us would learn from growing up around brothers & sisters and from our own parents and friends. Basic parenting skills are sadly lacking here.

Most parents now remember mom & dad were strict. They hated it, so they aren't gonna be that way with their kids now. They don't seem to make the connection that mom & dad's strictness made them better human beings, so their own kids don't get the benefit of growing up with any semblance of rules & responsibilities. They mistake indulging & spoiling kids with love. The kids don't learn respect at home...and it's practically game over.
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Postby Oradea » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:21 pm

It seems like a rather Scary and Daunting process to enter the world of parenthood.
When It comes time for me to do so, I only hope I dont fuck it up as bad as all that.
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Postby dimwit » Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:25 pm

First of all corporal punishment has been going de facto for years at most private schools where the schools generally have the parents by the curlies to start with -you rat on them and sayonara to your kid attending there. And no sorry AK and BB in any case even if they allowed teachers to beat kids that would not mean us foreigners being given the pleasure. :)

My prediction as to what will inevitably happen is that some neurotic gym teacher will beat the fuck out of some kid who can't play baseball until the kid's liver ruptures and he dies. At which point, the Education ministry officials will quickly blame the teachers' lack of patriotism and demand that schools impliment more patriotism within the classrooms.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:25 pm

It happens every year in judo camps with the high schools (maybe JHS too). Some kid has heat exhaustion/stroke after training all day every day for days in 35 degree heat and 95% humidity. He can't finish his dinner. Some teacher/coach tells him to "man up". He's forced to eat, or forced to go train some more to get tough. Kid dies. It's quietly swept under the carpet and things continue as they always have. Not exactly corporal punishment...capital punishment?
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