Racism surfaces over bid by foreigner to buy land, settle

[Ke11iente]

From the Asahi Shimbun

FUKUROI, Shizuoka Prefecture-- Fearful that they would be inviting crime to their neighborhood, residents blocked an attempt by a Japanese-Brazilian man to buy land on which to build a house...

The 30-year-old factory worker had his heart set on purchasing a 200-square-meter plot through a realtor in the nearby city of Iwata in April last year, said sources familiar with the matter.

The third-generation Japanese-Brazilian had planned to build a detached house on the plot in the Nagamizo district of Fukuroi.

But before he could sign the contract, a group of local residents who are members of the Nagamizo community association raised objections to the purchase after they learned from the realtor that the buyer was of Brazilian ancestry.
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One resident, citing a perception that Brazilians are prone to committing crimes, said, "I feared that something might happen." The woman alluded to a number of reports about Brazilians fleeing Japan to avoid prosecution for crimes committed in Japan. [url=http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200706290148.html"]more...[/url]

Perhaps even more annoying is the fact that the title of the article refers to the man as a "foreigner" when his family has been living in Japan for 3 generations....
Yes Yes, I know I know... head against a brick wall and all that...

[Big Booger]

I don't know about you but I don't want no stinkin' 3rd generation Brazilians living next door to me... I want the full blooders nearby... shake that bum bum baby!

[TennoChinko]

From the Asahi Shimbun



Perhaps even more annoying is the fact that the title of the article refers to the man as a "foreigner" when his family has been living in Japan for 3 generations....
Yes Yes, I know I know... head against a brick wall and all that...

"3rd generation" in this case refers to the fact that the man was born in Brazil as were his parents... with his grandparents emmigrating from Japan. That means he carries a Brazilian passport and mostly likely has a special Nikkei visa that allows him to work and live in Japan.

[james]

"3rd generation" in this case refers to the fact that the man was born in Brazil as were his parents... with his grandparents emmigrating from Japan. That means he carries a Brazilian passport and mostly likely has a special Nikkei visa that allows him to work and live in Japan.

not sure what the right interpretation of "3rd generation" is in this case, but let's say for the sake of argument the guy is a full blooded brazillian, right off the boat.. should it matter?

i know that as a group, brazillians have been pictured as "problematic" but if he's hard working, honest and capable of paying, i'd sooner live beside him than some bunch of xenophobic busybody community association babas.

[Oradea]

It`s sad that people think like that in this day and age. Rascism is the worst.

[Iraira]

not sure what the right interpretation of "3rd generation" is in this case, but let's say for the sake of argument the guy is a full blooded brazillian, right off the boat.. should it matter?

i know that as a group, brazillians have been pictured as "problematic" but if he's hard working, honest and capable of paying, i'd sooner live beside him than some bunch of xenophobic busybody community association babas.

The most annoying aspect of the racism here is that the racists (aside from the Uyouku) don't seem to realize that they are being racist. At least the White Power groups proudly admit that that are racists, so you know what to expect from them.

[CrankyBastard]

Racism exists, sometimes it's me, othertimes it's the other fella.
I've learned to exist with it. It's a human failing. (No smiley)

[American Oyaji]

Unfortunately, I forsee that it is only going to get worse in Japan.

[TennoChinko]

The most annoying aspect of the racism here is that the racists (aside from the Uyouku) don't seem to realize that they are being racist. At least the White Power groups proudly admit that that are racists, so you know what to expect from them.

Back where I'm from -- the Klan or their "off-shoots" would sometimes "welcome" a non-white newcomer to the county with a good old-fashioned gasoline cross burnt on their front lawn. Made the papers for a bit but that was about it.

The Japanese in this case don't even see the need to hide behind a white bedsheet. They have no qualms about doing it all themselves and directly. So refreshing.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Back where I'm from -- the Klan or their "off-shoots" would sometimes "welcome" a non-white newcomer to the county with a good old-fashioned gasoline cross burnt on their front lawn. Made the papers for a bit but that was about it.

You're so full of shit.

[Midwinter]

Japan, you make me sick.

[Mulboyne]

[dimwit]

I have to ask myself would I want to live in a neighborhood with a bunch of assholes like that. My guess is that they are all in their 50 or 60's, work for construction companies and have lots of pretty barbed wire surrounding their cinderblock corrugated siding houses. It is good that it got international news attention however. The jerks deserved to be shamed.

[xenomorph42]

It never ceases to amaze me how Japan can get away with this kind of malicious act! Japan is always the victim in every situation, while every foreigner is a threat to their very survival.
If that kind of thing were to happen in the states, it would be on every single channel, law suits to no end, headline front page news, Al Sharpton....etc...
Japan will never get it! This will most definite not get Japan high marks on the "human rights" debate!

[GuyJean]

If that kind of thing were to happen in the states, it would be on every single channel, law suits to no end, headline front page news, Al Sharpton....etc...

Yeah, if you're black.. What if you're [SIZE="1"][color="White"]Middle Eastern[/color][/SIZE] or [SIZE="1"][color="White"]Mexican[/color][/SIZE]?.. Shhh, they might hear me. Then bomb or steal my car; they're everywhere you know..

GJ

[TennoChinko]

Back where I'm from -- the Klan or their "off-shoots" would sometimes "welcome" a non-white newcomer to the county with a good old-fashioned gasoline cross burnt on their front lawn. Made the papers for a bit but that was about it.

You're so full of shit.

No, I'm not.

Note I indicated a gasoline cross burnt on a lawn -- not a flaming upright cross like the ones you'd see in the movies or at formal Klan rallies. The former is easy to do by almost any coward with access to a cannister of gasoline and a match. And, often they aren't even formal members of a group like the Klan -high school kids could and would do it. Sneak up to the target home in the dead of night -- pour out the gasoline in the shape of a cross, light it and drive away. It'd make the local papers but that was about it. The last family I remember were Indians who opened a motel by the local highway. If they did it nowadays -with the Internet - it'd probably make it a national issue.

[American Oyaji]

If that kind of thing were to happen in the states, it would be on every single channel, law suits to no end, headline front page news,

Actually, it DOES happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

It is called redlining. If you follow that link, you'll see some other practices that are followed that are illegal, but authorities look the other way.

[blackcat]

The only thing japanese seem to posses more of than racisim is stupidity.

If he was a "halfu" does that mean the good (japanese) side of him would reduce his evil (foreign) side and only commit half a crime?

FUCK THEY ARE DUMB

A study carried out a few years ago reported in the JTimes I think it was, asked Uni students in US/AUST/JPN/KOR/ and I think UK what their main worries for their countries were, and amazingly all students thought that racisim was a concern in their country....except Japan and Korea!! Prob two of the most predjudice lands on earth.

They don't realize it at all, they really do think that over-reporting of FG crime and under-teaching/excuses of Japanese war involvement/crime is fact not fucked.

They are able to be exploited and lead up any path by anyone with the balls and arrogance (like Blinky,Abe etc) to do it.

I hope these idiots get their way and a "pure" japanese moves in....like say
this form of human scum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa

send your daughters over to his place for dinner you village fuckwits.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Actually, it DOES happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

It is called redlining. If you follow that link, you'll see some other practices that are followed that are illegal, but authorities look the other way.

A few years ago when I was back in the States I saw a show (20/20?) where they documented how people were discriminated against in housing based on the way the talk. Basically, if someone sounded typically black they were far more likely to be told the place had already been rented or given some other excuse not to let them come by and have a look.

[maraboutslim]

A study carried out a few years ago reported in the JTimes I think it was, asked Uni students in US/AUST/JPN/KOR/ and I think UK what their main worries for their countries were, and amazingly all students thought that racisim was a concern in their country....except Japan and Korea!! Prob two of the most predjudice lands on earth.

Huh? Why should a country that is 99% one race give a crap about racism? It's just such a non-issue that it's totally understandable why university students aren't concerned about it in their country.

[6810]

Huh? Why should a country that is 99% one race give a crap about racism? It's just such a non-issue that it's totally understandable why university students aren't concerned about it in their country.

funny thing is, it's not 99%... or are you being ironic?

[blackcat]

"Huh? Why should a country that is 99% one race give a crap about racism? It's just such a non-issue that it's totally understandable why university students aren't concerned about it in their country."

1. Thats right 6810, not 99% one race at all.
2. Everone should give a crap.
3. Non issue is right thats for sure
4. A total lack of awareness of the negative side of their society.

hence The Japanese Denial Syndrome.

[YourAverageSalaryman]

How can anybody argue that Japanese people don't have to give a crap just because zainichi gaikokujin aren't very visible!?

Most Germans didn't know too much about the concentration camps... they weren't all that visible either.

[Big Booger]

A few years ago when I was back in the States I saw a show (20/20?) where they documented how people were discriminated against in housing based on the way the talk. Basically, if someone sounded typically black they were far more likely to be told the place had already been rented or given some other excuse not to let them come by and have a look.

Can you please briefly fill me in on what "sounding black" means... I am so clueless...

Or do you mean sounding "ignorant"? Because if it is the later, I can completely agree with the people not renting to low class, ignorant fucks who talk like they barely passed kindergarten.

If I were an apartment owner and I had to choose between a buttnut and an semi-intelligent sounding person, I'd choose the semi-intelligent over the butt-nut.

If you cannot speak English properly then I don't want issues with you in the future concerning payment of rent because you didn't understand the terms of your lease.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Can you please briefly fill me in on what "sounding black" means... I am so clueless...

Or do you mean sounding "ignorant"? Because if it is the later, I can completely agree with the people not renting to low class, ignorant fucks who talk like they barely passed kindergarten.

If I were an apartment owner and I had to choose between a buttnut and an semi-intelligent sounding person, I'd choose the semi-intelligent over the butt-nut.

If you cannot speak English properly then I don't want issues with you in the future concerning payment of rent because you didn't understand the terms of your lease.

There are people who speak properly and still sound black. That was the point of the study. The fact is a lot of black people have an accent that almost no one who isn't black has.

[Big Booger]

There are people who speak properly and still sound black. That was the point of the study. The fact is a lot of black people have an accent that almost no one who isn't black has.

I am still trying to seriously figure out what sounding black is like. Do you have some sort of example like on Youtube so that we can compare sounding black from other racial groups. I think this would be very helpful.

[amdg]

I predict.....




NOT good things to come of this.


Is ultra still enforcing his 'be nice' cooling off period?

[eighty5er]

Here's a black man talking. I don't register any sound that reminds me of black:

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[Big Booger]

Here's a black man talking. I don't register any sound that reminds me of black:

[yt]mC5Kzkw6Xb4[/yt]

My simple question is what exactly makes one sound black or white, or asian, or whatever.... I mean I can understand a foreigner or immigrant speaking with a certain accent that they inherit from their culture... but what exactly does one mean when we say "he sounds black" or "she sounds white".... I am at a total loss as to what the difference actually is.

I can get educated and uneducated. I can get high class and low class.... but when it comes to racial profiling of linguistic ability... I am just sort of ignorant. Please enlighten me.

[eighty5er]

My post shows that accent is not bound to race. This man is Dutch, and he speaks English like any other Dutchman black or white. It seems the statement "black men sound different than white men when they talk" was made without thinking about black and white men accross all linguistic borders.

If it only counts for black men say in North America (I presume this is the case), then it's not a racial trait, it's a region-specific racial commonality.