Benjamin Fulford Takes On The Yakuza

[MeinJapanLongTime]

So...when do the separate bathrooms and water fountains go up?

If you've got a security profile, that's all well and good. Those folks need to be checked. However, if I, as the bad guy, know what kind of folks you're looking for, I will attempt to recruit folks you're not looking for.

As the folks doing the inspecting, you really need to do some routine checks of folks not meeting your profile just to keep the bad guys off balance.

I don't think that's too much to ask for.

And, I'm the ultimate white guy in Japan and have NEVER been stopped like you guys are talking about in over 17 years. And if I get stopped for a random security check, I always cooperate fully--it's their job to check things out. Kudos to them for making the checks to keep us safe.

[kusai Jijii]

I'm the ultimate white guy in Japan and have NEVER been stopped like you guys are talking about in over 17 years. And if I get stopped for a random security check, I always cooperate fully--it's their job to check things out. Kudos to them for making the checks to keep us safe.

Nah mate, you just dont get out that much.
Oh, and if you think 'they' are keeping 'us' safe by whipping up fear of an imagined threat among the idiotic masses here, you might like to start up your own thread - I bet you'd give this one on that nut job Benji Fulford a right run for its money.

[xenomorph42]

So...when do the separate bathrooms and water fountains go up?

If you've got a security profile, that's all well and good. Those folks need to be checked. However, if I, as the bad guy, know what kind of folks you're looking for, I will attempt to recruit folks you're not looking for.

As the folks doing the inspecting, you really need to do some routine checks of folks not meeting your profile just to keep the bad guys off balance.

I don't think that's too much to ask for.

And, I'm the ultimate white guy in Japan and have NEVER been stopped like you guys are talking about in over 17 years. And if I get stopped for a random security check, I always cooperate fully--it's their job to check things out. Kudos to them for making the checks to keep us safe.

What does that mean, "Ultimate White Guy?"

[omae mona]

as i highlighted in debito's blog translation, here again is the problem of semantics and the improper use of terminology to describe a person here. he is not 'a japanese'. he is a 'japanese citizen'(if indeed he holds citizenship, otherwise he's a 'permanent resident'. i think i read that he's got an american passport as well, so perhaps he is a 'dual citizen'. regardless, he is NOT 'a japanese').

If I recall, he gave up his US citizenship in a very dramatic visit to the US Consulate some years back. As for the semantics, what is your definition of "Japanese"?

i'd also like to add that it is not illegal for japanese police to request to see the ID of someone, so his indignation at still being asked for his ID after he said 'i'm a japanese' is just pointless and if he'd just shown the ID instead of getting into a discussion about it, he wouldn't have missed his train.

I am not sure what the rules are for police, but I am almost certain that there is no requirement for Japanese citizens to carry ID at any time. Perhaps he didn't have anything on him? As an example, Mrs. Omae Mona (a Japanese national) normally goes out with nothing bearing her name except for a credit card, and the name on it doesn't even match her legal name in Japan. On a side note, I really would love to strip her of this unnecessary ID. The damage it causes goes far beyond privacy concerns.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

If I recall, he gave up his US citizenship in a very dramatic visit to the US Consulate some years back. As for the semantics, what is your definition of "Japanese"?



I am not sure what the rules are for police, but I am almost certain that there is no requirement for Japanese citizens to carry ID at any time. Perhaps he didn't have anything on him? As an example, Mrs. Omae Mona (a Japanese national) normally goes out with nothing bearing her name except for a credit card, and the name on it doesn't even match her legal name in Japan. On a side note, I really would love to strip her of this unnecessary ID. The damage it causes goes far beyond privacy concerns.

from the dictionary of cyka:
a japanese-someone who is ethnically japanese
japanese-the primary language spoken in japan
japanese citizen-a person who holds a japan passport, either through birth or naturalisation, who may or may not be ethnically japanese

we all know that the rules for foreigners and for japanese citizens are different. and we all know that people who have faces that are not ethnically japanese looking, even if they hold japanese citizenship, are going to stand out and are potential targets for racial profiling/random ID checks/discrimination at various japanese-only establishments. on the same token, people who look japanese yet were born and raised in the west and can't speak a lick of japanese will find themselves equally annoyed that all japanese will assume they speak the language.

as has been said time and time again, the choice to be a foreign face in japan is yours. good on you for making the effort to learn the language and rules and customs and things that will earn you respect for trying. if you're ever going to expect to be 'one of them', then book the next flight out, because that's never going to happen. instead acknowledge and celebrate the differences and enjoy being 'special'.

[Behan]

what i've highlighted in xenomorph's quote pretty much sums it up. know who you are and where your place is, respect your hosts but don't necessarily except that respect reciprocated, learn and listen and love and live. that's all any of us can do. and if you don't like it, as was said elsewhere in this thread, there's always an express train to narita (or KIX or any other airport)...no one is forcing you to stay.

i hadn't heard of this debito character until now, but he's exactly the type that makes life for FGs worse here. why start in on accusations of racial profiling? of COURSE racial profiling happens here, not unlike the way it happens in america and many other countries. yes, it's annoying. yes, it's not 'right', but again...if it's such an inconvenience to you morally or timewise, then leave japan. you're only aggravating yourself.

as i highlighted in debito's blog translation, here again is the problem of semantics and the improper use of terminology to describe a person here. he is not 'a japanese'. he is a 'japanese citizen'(if indeed he holds citizenship, otherwise he's a 'permanent resident'. i think i read that he's got an american passport as well, so perhaps he is a 'dual citizen'. regardless, he is NOT 'a japanese').

i'd also like to add that it is not illegal for japanese police to request to see the ID of someone, so his indignation at still being asked for his ID after he said 'i'm a japanese' is just pointless and if he'd just shown the ID instead of getting into a discussion about it, he wouldn't have missed his train.

I agree with you that we FGs need to respect our hosts' country but for us FGs who have put down roots here it's not a simple matter to hop on a plane and leave. A lot of us have family ties or economic reasons why we want to or need to be here.

Rather than leaving what's wrong with fighting racism, or to at least get the ball moving.

Sure, racial profiling happens else where but that doesn't make it OK. It's wrong wherever it happens.

You say that Debito is misusing the word 'Japanese' but why is your definition of it right and his wrong. Surely he is aware of how the term is used. Is his usage of the term 'Japanese' wrong just because you say it is?

Why wouldn't a person with Japanese citizenry be 'Japanese'? What about people of other skins colors who have been born and raised in Japan? Should they leave the country if they don't like being asked to produce their passports? Some 'halves' look pretty foreign even though they have been raised linguistically, culturally, and politically(passport-wise) as Japanese.

Instead of us FGs leaving why can't we hope that Japanese authorities will wake up and stop racial profiling.

I don't know if Debito has dual citizenship but as I remember he tried to give up his American citizenship.

I don't think Debito makes things worse for FGs. Probably most of the natives don't even know who he is. I have never heard him mentioned by anyone but FGs.

You may be correct that it's not illegal for police to ask you to produce ID but it is racial profiling to ask you to do so just because you have a different skin color. Are you more likely to be a criminal because you don't have East Asian physical features?

If a person, etnically Japanese or otherwise, were acting suspiciously and gave the police reason to believe they might be committing some crime, then sure, go ahead and investigate.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

I agree with you that we FGs need to respect our hosts' country but for us FGs who have put down roots here it's not a simple matter to hop on a plane and leave. A lot of us have family ties or economic reasons why we want to or need to be here.

Rather than leaving what's wrong with fighting racism, or to at least get the ball moving.

Sure, racial profiling happens else where but that doesn't make it OK. It's wrong wherever it happens.

You say that Debito is misusing the word 'Japanese' but why is your definition of it right and his wrong. Surely he is aware of how the term is used. Is his usage of the term 'Japanese' wrong just because you say it is?

Why wouldn't a person with Japanese citizenry be 'Japanese'? What about people of other skins colors who have been born and raised in Japan? Should they leave the country if they don't like being asked to produce their passports? Some 'halves' look pretty foreign even though they have been raised linguistically, culturally, and politically(passport-wise) as Japanese.

Instead of us FGs leaving why can't we hope that Japanese authorities will wake up and stop racial profiling.

I don't know if Debito has dual citizenship but as I remember he tried to give up his American citizenship.

I don't think Debito makes things worse for FGs. Probably most of the natives don't even know who he is. I have never heard him mentioned by anyone but FGs.

You may be correct that it's not illegal for police to ask you to produce ID but it is racial profiling to ask you to do so just because you have a different skin color. Are you more likely to be a criminal because you don't have East Asian physical features?

If a person, etnically Japanese or otherwise, were acting suspiciously and gave the police reason to believe they might be committing some crime, then sure, go ahead and investigate.

i suppose my growing up in a country where random police checks and racial profiling on everyone is the norm has conditioned me to a certain way of thinking. in moscow everyone who looks to be from the south is assumed to be a thug.

no, a person is not more likely to be criminal because they don't look east asian, all i'm saying that the current day japan is this way. it's just a fact.

i had no idea who debito or even this fulford guy was until reading this thread. i've never said that he's made things worse for FGs, all i said was that he'll probably end up being pulled out of a river some day for going up against the yaks.

someone asked what MY definition of japanese is. i gave it. agree or don't, that's your right. the whole thing is getting a bit tedious, tbh, since there's forever going to be the 'it's their country so it's their right to be as racist as they want' vs 'let's try to make the whole world a harmonious place' debate. everyone's entitled to their opinion.

i think i'm done with this one, seems to just be going in circles.

[xenomorph42]

from the dictionary of cyka:
a japanese-someone who is ethnically japanese
japanese-the primary language spoken in japan
japanese citizen-a person who holds a japan passport, either through birth or naturalisation, who may or may not be ethnically japanese

we all know that the rules for foreigners and for japanese citizens are different. and we all know that people who have faces that are not ethnically japanese looking, even if they hold japanese citizenship, are going to stand out and are potential targets for racial profiling/random ID checks/discrimination at various japanese-only establishments. on the same token, people who look japanese yet were born and raised in the west and can't speak a lick of japanese will find themselves equally annoyed that all japanese will assume they speak the language.

as has been said time and time again, the choice to be a foreign face in japan is yours. good on you for making the effort to learn the language and rules and customs and things that will earn you respect for trying. if you're ever going to expect to be 'one of them', then book the next flight out, because that's never going to happen. instead acknowledge and celebrate the differences and enjoy being 'special'.

Therein lies the complexity of this issue, what you said makes perfect sense to the normal person, but I have quite a number of buddies that want to go all the way, to give up their citizenship of birth and to totally adopt and submit themselves to the Japanese lifestyle, I say, more power to them, but as you said, they will never be "one of them" but my buddies just live in a world of denial and really think, because they get treated with respect and speak the language fluently, this society is exactly on par, open and accepting of FG's. And when the shit hits the fan, when it comes down to it, who will ultimately be the fall guy, hmmmm.

[nottu]

[MeinJapanLongTime]

What does that mean, "Ultimate White Guy?"

It just means that I'm your standard, middle-aged, fat around the middle white guy. If you put me in a group of Japanese I stick out like a sore thumb--you could almost say I glow in the dark. There's no hiding me.

[MeinJapanLongTime]

Nah mate, you just dont get out that much.
Oh, and if you think 'they' are keeping 'us' safe by whipping up fear of an imagined threat among the idiotic masses here, you might like to start up your own thread - I bet you'd give this one on that nut job Benji Fulford a right run for its money.

I get out plenty. Of course, you won't see me in the bar scene cause that's just not me. And I pass through airports plenty...several times a year in fact.

Now, I didn't say that they're aren't discriminatory police folks out there, and in some areas in a big way. It's just a fact of life that that sort of thing exists whereever you go. You missed the other piece of my statement that said that if they're going to do checks, they need to do them across the board to at least give the appearance of not profiling gaijin.

I agree that the news media does indeed hype up the "foreign crime" issue more so than the Japanese on Japanese crime, but the latter does get reported.

Know who you are where you are and stay away from troublesome areas (i.e. the heavy-drinking bar scene and related areas) and you should be fine--in most cases (caveat for those with real problems in their nieghborhoods).

[MeinJapanLongTime]

from the dictionary of cyka:
a japanese-someone who is ethnically japanese
japanese-the primary language spoken in japan
japanese citizen-a person who holds a japan passport, either through birth or naturalisation, who may or may not be ethnically japanese

we all know that the rules for foreigners and for japanese citizens are different. and we all know that people who have faces that are not ethnically japanese looking, even if they hold japanese citizenship, are going to stand out and are potential targets for racial profiling/random ID checks/discrimination at various japanese-only establishments. on the same token, people who look japanese yet were born and raised in the west and can't speak a lick of japanese will find themselves equally annoyed that all japanese will assume they speak the language.

as has been said time and time again, the choice to be a foreign face in japan is yours. good on you for making the effort to learn the language and rules and customs and things that will earn you respect for trying. if you're ever going to expect to be 'one of them', then book the next flight out, because that's never going to happen. instead acknowledge and celebrate the differences and enjoy being 'special'.

mmm....so, my kids are 50% Japanese by birth, speak Japanese fluently (went to J schools), and have dual-citizenship. However, if you look at my kids, my oldest in particular, you'd probably never guess she's 50% Japanese. So, does that mean she's an automatic target for profiling?

I suppose so, unfortunately.

My other is less obvious, but most folks would probably pick him out as non-Japanese due to his skin tone.

They were fortunate in school as it turned out to be a plus rather than a minus for them most of the time, although they did run into a few folks over the years who disliked them, just because. I think it had more to do with their popularity than their skin color.

[kusai Jijii]

Know who you are where you are and stay away from troublesome areas (i.e. the heavy-drinking bar scene and related areas) and you should be fine--in most cases (caveat for those with real problems in their nieghborhoods).

You still have not addressed the initial issue of whether or not asking for I.D. actualy makes anyone safer. I don't think it does. I think its simple window dressing.

"Know who you are where you are"
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Are you infering that I should always remember that I am a "guest" in this great land, and not to assume I am entitled to the same standard of treatment from the police as our Japanese "hosts"? If so, you should change you name to "MeinJapanWaaaytooFuckingLongandShouldGettheFuckOut".

[Gilligan]

You still have not addressed the initial issue of whether or not asking for I.D. actualy makes anyone safer. I don't think it does. I think its simple window dressing.

AMEN brother kj!!

The reality is that things like random stops in places like Japan have no impact on things like terrorism. If you think it through logically and consider the actual numbers and the possibility of 1) the cop actually stopping a terrorist and 2) the cop actually figuring out that s/he's a terrorist at that moment, you realize that there's almost no chance that random stops will stop any terrorists.

The only impacts that random stops have are 1) to inconvenience non-terrorists and 2) to make the general population FEEL safer. And in cases where profiling is used, to re-inforce the misconception that all the bad people in Japan are non-Japanese.

[Iraira]

You still have not addressed the initial issue of whether or not asking for I.D. actualy makes anyone safer. I don't think it does. I think its simple window dressing.

Japan spends most of its time and effort trying to create an image. The image that they are doing something to protect the common man, help that common man, figure a way out of this crisis, etc.

[Behan]

Lucky for you, your wanderings and rootings didn't happen in North Korea or Bhutan - then you'd truly be a FG.
Yes the Social Contract - so ingrained in the American psyche that the average American can't understand that there may be democaracy without it.
The Social Contract - what a concept - both high-minded and destructive at once - and because of its deep-seated nature in the Western (especially American) cultural belief system, its an interesting place to develop awareness of cultural chauvenism.

Please explain how this is relevant to the discussion.

I just don't want to be stopped by the police because I have white skin.

[kusai Jijii]

One more thing...

stay away from troublesome areas (i.e. the heavy-drinking bar scene and related areas) and you should be fine

I didn't know that Jihadist Terrorists were hard-core, heavy drinking clubbers. If the J-cops are looking for Bin Laden and his mates down at "Six Trees", it's no wonder he hasn't been found yet.

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[CrankyBastard]

Why did he, in the opening sequence say, "Zehi wo tanoshimi kudasai?"
Was it his intention to entertain?

[xenomorph42]

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Like I said before, there is no way on God's green earth could he ever and I mean, ever have gotten away with that kind of ranting in my neighborhood. LA gangs, like "MS-13, 18th" st. even the "Russians" would have taken him out probably within a few days following that stunt and most likely take out anyone associated with that nut.
I am assuming, he thinks he's some bad ass in this country, but if I could ask him would you so openly speak out in my neighborhood and if he replied, "yes" then I would go to the "LA Times" to prepare his obituary, I wonder what this guy is trying to prove?

[Iraira]

Like I said before, there is no way on God's green earth could he ever and I mean, ever have gotten away with that kind of ranting in my neighborhood. LA gangs, like "MS-13, 18th" st. even the "Russians" would have taken him out probably within a few days following that stunt and most likely take out anyone associated with that nut.

Shit, I didn't realize that Brentwood and the Pacific Palisades had gotten so rough. I image that after the Woodman Ninja Killing and OJ, Brentwood became the 'hood.

[kusai Jijii]

Like I said before, there is no way on God's green earth could he ever and I mean, ever have gotten away with that kind of ranting in my neighborhood. LA gangs, like "MS-13, 18th" st. even the "Russians"... blah blah blah

Sorry, but it never fails to amaze me how many Americans get on this website about FG in JAPAN and start informing us about what would and would not be tollerated back home in the good ol' US of fuckin' A. Just to be clear, he's not in LA, he's in Kobe. And he's not lippin' MS-13, he's dissin' the fucking brainless cunty softcock yak cunts in JAPAN. And even then, he's only half-dissin' them, cause he keeps telling them how he wants no trouble from them, and how its not his intent to be rude to them etc...

If I wanted to know all about the cultural tapestry of the United States from the viewpoint of foreigners, I'd log onto Fuckedgreencardholdersandillegalaliens.com or some such site. But I dont, so thats why I come here. Just my 2 yens worth.

I will agree with you on this though - he IS a fucking NUTJOB.

[Greji]

Sorry, but it never fails to amaze me how many Americans get on this website about FG in JAPAN and start informing us about what would and would not be tollerated back home in the good ol' US of fuckin' A.

Hey Ji, just cause we didn't have Ned Kelly, doesn't mean we didn't have some harry dudes (just not many good blacksmiths:p ).

But getting back to Kobe, I don't know what this nub is trying to prove. If he doesn't want them on his ass, it would seem like he shouldn't be trying to give them a wedgie. I mean they normally don't want to pursue the small shit, but, sooner or later, he's going to piss somebody off, and they're going to step on his johnson big time.

The dude dings when he walks.

[xenomorph42]

Sorry, but it never fails to amaze me how many Americans get on this website about FG in JAPAN and start informing us about what would and would not be tollerated back home in the good ol' US of fuckin' A. Just to be clear, he's not in LA, he's in Kobe. And he's not lippin' MS-13, he's dissin' the fucking brainless cunty softcock yak cunts in JAPAN. And even then, he's only half-dissin' them, cause he keeps telling them how he wants no trouble from them, and how its not his intent to be rude to them etc...

If I wanted to know all about the cultural tapestry of the United States from the viewpoint of foreigners, I'd log onto Fuckedgreencardholdersandillegalaliens.com or some such site. But I dont, so thats why I come here. Just my 2 yens worth.

I will agree with you on this though - he IS a fucking NUTJOB.

Well, I humbly do apologize for my decent, that I thought, I was rightly allowed to as to what this site is all about; discussion and debate, but if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed and or you didn't get laid from that shaven 18 year old girl/guy or you just had to deal with your jerk of a boss, or if you have US withdraw syndrome and you felt falsely(or rightfully)cheated by a Yank, please, don't let it out on me. Go out and get a hug, preferably from a Canadian, at least they live next door and they got Celine Dion to boot.

[xenomorph42]

Hey Ji, just cause we didn't have Ned Kelly, doesn't mean we didn't have some harry dudes (just not many good blacksmiths:p ).

But getting back to Kobe, I don't know what this nub is trying to prove. If he doesn't want them on his ass, it would seem like he shouldn't be trying to give them a wedgie. I mean they normally don't want to pursue the small shit, but, sooner or later, he's going to piss somebody off, and they're going to step on his johnson big time.

The dude dings when he walks.

For sure he is doing just that, but don't tell Ji that. Ned was a bad ass, you go boy!!! I will drink to that.

[nottu]

[Captain Japan]

In today's entry, it would seem that he was offered a bodyguard by the cops but he refused stating that it was a waste of taxpayer money.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

In today's entry, it would seem that he was offered a bodyguard by the cops but he refused stating that it was a waste of taxpayer money.

waste of taxpayers money and martyrs get more attention anyway.

[Mulboyne]

In today's entry, it would seem that he was offered a bodyguard by the cops but he refused stating that it was a waste of taxpayer money.

He probably also thought that the bloke would be spying on him. Indeed, there's a fair chance that the bodyguard would in fact have been asked by his bosses to report back on "what that crazy man is up to".