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Nintendo causes the Japanese StockMarket to Slump

Postby Buraku » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:17 pm

More of this shit to come?

Japanese Stocks Slump on Nintendo Earnings, Nomura Downgrades
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Japanese stocks fell, reversing earlier gains, after Nintendo Co.'s first-quarter earnings failed to impress analysts and investors, and Nomura Holdings Inc. lowered ratings on auto-parts makers on slowing car sales.

Nintendo, the maker of the Wii video game machine, plunged the most in six months after leaving profit forecasts unchanged in spite of 34 percent first-quarter profit growth. Denso Corp., the nation's largest auto-parts maker, slumped the most in a year after Nomura cut it to ``neutral.'' Mobile-phone leader NTT DoCoMo Inc. rose to a six-month high after quarterly profit jumped 41 percent.

``Exporters are suffering the most and it's evident in their earnings announcements,'' said Tetsuo Inoue, chief strategist at Proud Asset Management Japan Co. ``On the plus side, demand for shares is on the rise.''

The Nikkei 225 Stock Average sank 78.93, or 0.6 percent, to 13,288.86 at the 11 a.m. break in Tokyo, after gaining as much as 0.8 percent. The broader Topix index lost 12.62, or 1 percent, to 1,290.37, and is set for a 2.3 percent drop in July. Twenty-two of 33 industry groups on the Topix retreated.

Japan's government said last week exports fell for the first time in more than four years in June, a sign that overseas demand will no longer prop up the nation's weak consumer spending. Industrial production has fallen for two straight quarters, an occurrence that has coincided with Japan's last three recessions.


`Modestly Disappointing'

Nintendo sank by its daily limit of 5,000 yen, or 8.7 percent, to 52,600 yen in Osaka after reporting a 34 percent jump in first-quarter profit. Sales of the company's portable DS player slumped 72 percent in Japan from the previous year, while Wii sales also dropped.

``We think the company needs to step up efforts in Japan, where Wii and DS hardware sales are declining,'' Soichiro Fukuda, an analyst at Nikko Citigroup Ltd., wrote in a note to clients.

Jay Defibaugh, a Tokyo-based analyst at Credit Suisse Group, said Nintendo's first-quarter results were ``in line to modestly disappointing'' in a note to clients.
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Postby canman » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:55 pm

Fucked if I can understand what is going on. I was watching Bloomberg this am, and they were bullish on Nintendo. Stating that profits grew by 34%, that they were outselling Sony 3:1 on the consoles. Yada yada yada. Now I read this and its like the bottom has fallen out of Nintendo. Who to believe. Also I really wonder, with the big spike in oil, something like $5.49 today, was somebody upset about the recent drop, so they plant a few good stories about trouble in Nigeria, or political unrest in Iran, and whammo, oil is right back up again.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:00 pm

Well, the J market, while not small, is smaller than other markets, so even if hardware sales slow down its not the end of the world if they are shifting product to other markets....esp the EU, where I believe their sales are even more fantastically profitable than in Japan or the US.

And there is a finite number of likely consumers, and despite the J market's apparent willingness to gobble up new hardware just because of a color change, there comes a point where its mostly when growth has to level off a bit. And the J birth rate isn't helping either.

And besides, the econ of the industry is that you make money off software not necessarily off hardware....Nintendo is in the enviable position where it makes money off both as well as often having a dominate position in software sales for their hardware as well. And Wiis and Wii Fits are still pretty rare on US shelves. Their presentation at E3 was a bit thin on new kickass software titles down the road (wow, grand theft auto on the DS, I can only imagine the numerous ways that will completely suck) but they might have something more to talk about around TGS in October.

For the US market, I would expect that the economic slowdown will have some impact but come Christmas, people are still going to buy DS lites for their kids and they will be in short supply once again...they will just buy fewer games and accessories this time around
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:01 pm

DS has definitely jumped the shark if my straw polls of the kids are anything to go by.
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Postby Buraku » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:09 pm

Nintendo shares take biggest dive in 18 years
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/nintendo-shares-take-biggest-dive-in-18-years-515168
Value drops by 12 per cent after revised sales forecast for Wii

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Postby wuchan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:24 pm

Nintendo, Toyota, Honda, and Hitachi all have posted losses in the media in the past two weeks. Nintendo alone causing the slump? I don't think so. Try lower global demand plus a higher yen. All this is is investors playing the blame game.

The DS is a piece of crap. Back in the US hardly anyone owns one, more people own PSPs over there.
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Postby FG Lurker » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:49 pm

wuchan wrote:The DS is a piece of crap. Back in the US hardly anyone owns one, more people own PSPs over there.

Interesting comment since the DS is outselling the PSP about 2:1 in every region, US included.
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Postby wuchan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:24 pm

FG Lurker wrote:Interesting comment since the DS is outselling the PSP about 2:1 in every region, US included.

Sorry I don't know anyone outside japan that owns one. I can not speak for the kids but the adults back home 100% agree that the PSP games are better. In the US, gaming is more geared towards the kids..... for now. Give the US market ten years to get away from the CPU games and come back to the console/portable market.
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Postby FG Lurker » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:51 pm

I'm not a gamer (anymore) but looking at what is clobbering the rest of the market (wii and ds) it looks like Nintendo has things nailed down pretty well right now.
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Postby wuchan » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:01 am

FG Lurker wrote:I'm not a gamer (anymore) but looking at what is clobbering the rest of the market (wii and ds) it looks like Nintendo has things nailed down pretty well right now.

here..... have you herd of halo?
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Postby FG Lurker » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:07 am

wuchan wrote:here..... have you herd of halo?

Sales figures. The popularity of a single title isn't the issue, it's if a company can make money selling their overall system.

Nintendo does. Sony doesn't. Microsoft is falling somewhere in between.
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Postby amdg » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:58 am

Nintendo has great management and you have to remember that it's not the lumbering behemoth that Sony is. They still have some cards to play (yes, historical reference intended) and a decent ownership of the technology that will probably live out the next 10 years, at least. They're doing OK.
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Postby halfnip » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:32 am

FG Lurker wrote:I'm not a gamer (anymore) but looking at what is clobbering the rest of the market (wii and ds) it looks like Nintendo has things nailed down pretty well right now.


I agree, Lurk. Once other companies realize that gaming (especially for the "kids") is not only about hijacking cars and blasting the shit out of someone with an AK47 simulated gaming gun, then they *might* have something going. Until then, I really do not see anyone (Sony or MS) even coming close to getting the grip on the "gaming" market that Nintendo has.

A few weeks ago (this was in the US), I was sitting at a stop light and noticed a mother pushing her baby in a stroller. She had a Wii box sitting up on top of the stroller, with the Wii Fit box stuffed underneath it.

Catch my drift? I am also partial to Nintendo since they use our software. ;)
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:11 pm

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Postby amdg » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:30 pm

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