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Japan: A Nation Divided By Ear Wax

Postby Mulboyne » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:15 am

[floatl]Image[/floatl]Yomiuri: 2 genetic types of Japanese exist
The Japanese can be genetically classified into two categories--people native to the Ryukyu Islands in Okinawa Prefecture and people native to other parts of Japan--researchers from the Institute of Physical and Chemical Science (Riken), who analyzed the genes and genetic structure of about 7,000 people, have discovered. Riken's findings, which were meant to shed more light on the origins of Japanese, were published in the online edition of a U.S. science magazine on Friday. The biggest genetic difference in these two groups were found to be hair thickness and ear wax texture. People who originated from areas outside of the Ryukyu Islands tend to have much harder hair and drier ear wax and were discovered to be genetically closer to Chinese people.

The conclusion above appears to have been bandied about before while another Japanese team had this finding in 2006: "Earwax type and armpit odor are correlated, since populations with dry earwax, such as those of East Asia, tend to sweat less and have little or no body odor, whereas the wet earwax populations of Africa and Europe sweat more and so may have greater body odor."
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Postby Bucky » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:54 am

whereas the wet earwax populations of Africa and Europe sweat more and so may have greater body odor.


Earwax: check
Body oder: check

Hmm, I guess I am not Japanese
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:42 am

Japanese sweat just as much as anyone else. East Asians tend to have fewer apocrine sweat glands (the type in your armpits, groin) than other populations...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_gland
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2417/do-chinese-lack-sweat-glands-in-their-armpits

The whole "...foreigners sweat more..." is pure nihonjinron.
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Postby Behan » Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:11 pm

This sounds like such f***ed up nihonjinron.

Body odor, too, what a bunch of BS. One's man sh*it is another man's rose.

It's like these researchers are confirming bataa-kusai.

What a great way to divide the world's humans, stinky and non-stinky. (OK, I fit in the former)

How about stupid and non-stupid? (former again)

Or YBF or non-YBF?

Men could be divided by the directions their schlongs point, left or right.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:27 pm

As I said before, I have wet earwax, relatively strong odor and plenty of hair all over body. Because my blood considerably includes blood of Emishi which is a relative of Ainu in spite of the fact that the place of my agnate's ancestor is Nara.
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Postby xenomorph42 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:39 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:Japanese sweat just as much as anyone else. East Asians tend to have fewer apocrine sweat glands (the type in your armpits, groin) than other populations...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_gland
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2417/do-chinese-lack-sweat-glands-in-their-armpits

The whole "...foreigners sweat more..." is pure nihonjinron.



Hey, Japanese are quite a unique race. They don't sweat, they don't have body odor at all. They don't need to wear "sunglasses" their eyes are better equipped to handle UV rays than other races. Their taste buds are more refined than ours, they are better drivers and are more courteous than other nations. They are so unique, they don't need to communicate(verbally)to ever, ever get their point across(this is also the reason why, there are NEVER any problems, conflicts within this country, it simply doesn't exist. Japanese are intellectually and genetically, highly evolved than other races.
In general; Japanese are uniquely unique. ;)
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Postby Doctor Stop » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:50 pm

Mulboyne wrote:The Japanese can be genetically classified into two categories...
So in other words, half of the Japanese are Chinese and the other half are Korean.
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Postby NoCityHeadAche » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:57 am

Doctor Stop wrote:So in other words, half of the Japanese are Chinese and the other half are Korean.


Pretty much, that article was beating around the bush.
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Postby Choeki » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:22 pm

No love for the Ainu?
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Postby Catoneinutica » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:12 pm

And all this time I thought it was a Jomon vs. Yayoi thing: the Jomon people, closely related to the Ainu, migrated to Japan with the first wave of homo sapien settlement of East Asia c. 80,000 years ago. They are apparently characterized as being relatively hirsute and having comparatively round eyes. The Yoyoi folks, OTOH, arrived in Japan in the last 2000-or-so years, and display the "sinodont" features characteristic of today's NE Asian folks (outwardly-extending teeth, broad face, etc), features for which a fossil record exists going back only about 10,000 years.

It seems to be a bit of taboo subject, but I think I read on the NBR forum something about residual Jomon/Ainu populations existing in the Minami Boso Area.
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Postby kamome » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:57 pm

If Japanese sweat less, then where does that funky odor emanating from oyaji come from?
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Postby Dragonette » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:48 pm

kamome wrote:If Japanese sweat less, then where does that funky odor emanating from oyaji come from?

Probably from sitting too close to gaijin oyaji on trains, etc.. which is why they will scuttle away from gaijin male proximity if at all possible.

Besides, it is said that male gaijinesque odor has an aphrodisiac effect on obasans, so they may have a deep-seated fear of becoming a fukujoushi statistic. :shroom:
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Postby amdg » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:28 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:And all this time I thought it was a Jomon vs. Yayoi thing: the Jomon people, closely related to the Ainu, migrated to Japan with the first wave of homo sapien settlement of East Asia c. 80,000 years ago.


I'd be astounded if there were Jomon people in Japan anything like 80,000 years ago.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:48 pm

By the way, buraku people are mainly descendants of Jomon people.
In west Japan Yayoi people, who were conquesting people, and Jomon, who were conquested by Yoyoi people, had to coexist in same territory because west Japan already had had relatively high population density. So Conquesting people had to creat discrimination structure like indian caste. Meahwhile in east Japan Yayoi people and Jomon people could seperrately reside each other because of low population density. So Conquesting Yoyoi people had not created discrimination structure in east Japan.
This is the reason buraku areas are mainly distributed in west Japan.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:55 pm

amdg wrote:I'd be astounded if there were Jomon people in Japan anything like 80,000 years ago.


Bad extra zero! Bad! Bad!

The Australian aborigines really did get there a along time ago, though, didn't they? Something like 40,000 years ago?

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Postby Charles » Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:05 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:-catone
-what's really interesting are the theories as to how the Sinodont pattern arose only about 10,000 years ago. What promiscuous Mesolithic GEICO cavemen/women do we have to thank for propagating the mutation that led to...Koyuki (and Dr. Stop's avatar?), et al.?

There was never any such thing as cavewomen.. only smokin hot blonde chicks.

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Postby amdg » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:17 am

Catoneinutica wrote:-job well done, playas!


:D No mistake there.
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Postby Midwinter » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:34 am

kamome wrote:If Japanese sweat less, then where does that funky odor emanating from oyaji come from?


That would be the smell of death ;)
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Postby IkemenTommy » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:52 pm

amdg wrote:I'd be astounded if there were Jomon people in Japan anything like 80,000 years ago.

Doesn't the bible contradict your statement..
oh never mind, we aren't talking about myths and fairy tales. :cool:
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Postby wuchan » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:23 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:Doesn't the bible contradict your statement..
oh never mind, we aren't talking about myths and fairy tales. :cool:

don't the stories in the bible contradict other stories in the bible? It is a very confused book.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:48 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:By the way, buraku people are mainly descendants of Jomon people.
In west Japan Yayoi people, who were conquesting people, and Jomon, who were conquested by Yoyoi people, had to coexist in same territory because west Japan already had had relatively high population density. So Conquesting people had to creat discrimination structure like indian caste. Meahwhile in east Japan Yayoi people and Jomon people could seperrately reside each other because of low population density. So Conquesting Yoyoi people had not created discrimination structure in east Japan.
This is the reason buraku areas are mainly distributed in west Japan.


This is a very interesting post. It certainly seems plausible. It'd be interesting to DNA-test descendants of the Samurai class (i.e., people who had family names before the Meiji Era), and people willing to self-identify as burakumin, and assay the relative weighting of Yayoi vs. Jomon.

Then again, the burakumin and the yakuza are interrelated to a certain degree, are they not? It seems to be an open secret that the Buraku Liberation League has yakuza ties. And as Take would be the first to tell us, the yakuza apparently draws heavily on the zainichi Korean community.
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Postby CrankyBastard » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:34 pm

Catoneinutica wrote: It'd be interesting to DNA-test descendants of the people willing to self-identify as burakumin,

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:28 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:It'd be interesting to DNA-test descendants of the Samurai class (i.e., people who had family names before the Meiji Era), and people willing to self-identify as burakumin, and assay the relative weighting of Yayoi vs. Jomon.

Actually Meiji to Taisho period mainstream Japanese "discovered" that men and women of mainly-descendants-of-Jomon buraku people are beautiful, whose face are relatively resemble Euro-American or caucasian ones.
After so-called shock of the black ships, Japanese aesthetic value about human appearance was changed fundamentally, as you know. Japanese got to regard Yayoi face, which had been regarded as beautiful and noble, as ugly. Conversely Jomon face, which had been regarded as ugly and uncivilized face, got to be regarded as beautiful.
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Postby CrankyBastard » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:11 pm

So,....... Tak, are you one of the "beautiful people?"
Or are you just being cute?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:11 pm

kamome wrote:If Japanese sweat less, then where does that funky odor emanating from oyaji come from?


A steady diet of Mild Sevens, genki drinks, and FamilyMart bentos.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:30 pm

CrankyBastard wrote:So,....... Tak, are you one of the "beautiful people?"
Or are you just being cute?

The fact that buraku people are mainly descendants of Jomon doesn't mean that all of descendants of Jomon are buraku. For example, Emishi and Ainu is also descendant of Jomon but not buraku.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:51 pm

CrankyBastard wrote::rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Oh, you'd be surprised CB. This'll get cha started:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromu_Nonaka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraku_Liberation_League
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Postby Catoneinutica » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Actually Meiji to Taisho period mainstream Japanese "discovered" that men and women of mainly-descendants-of-Jomon buraku people are beautiful, whose face are relatively resemble Euro-American or caucasian ones.
After so-called shock of the black ships, Japanese aesthetic value about human appearance was changed fundamentally, as you know. Japanese got to regard Yayoi face, which had been regarded as beautiful and noble, as ugly. Conversely Jomon face, which had been regarded as ugly and uncivilized face, got to be regarded as beautiful.


The Yayoi face has never been regarded as "ugly" by any Westerner I've ever heard/read about, though I think what makes J-chix so appealing to connoisseurs like us is that some of them have absolutely gorgeous eyes, perhaps because of the Jomon admixture. Han Chinese and especially Koreans seem to be more uniformly Yayoi-esque (heh - Japan is the heterogenous one!), with more characteristically narrow eyes, which can certainly be quite beautiful as well.
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:14 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:The Yayoi face has never been regarded as "ugly" by any Westerner I've ever heard/read about...


A quick recap
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Postby IkemenTommy » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:04 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:A steady diet of Mild Sevens, genki drinks, and FamilyMart bentos.

My new found discovery: Ukon no Chikara
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