North Korea Threatens Japan

[Mulboyne]

Telegraph: North Korea threatens 'ultra-hardline' action against Japan over sanction
The Rodong Sinmun, the official newspaper of the North Korean Worker's Party, stated in an editorial that Pyongyang would take "ultra-hardline" steps against Japan if Prime Minister Taro Aso introduces new measures designed to win the release of Japanese nationals abducted by North Korean agents. The newspaper did not elaborate on the steps that it might take, but Kim Myong-Chol, executive director of the Center for U.S.-North Korea Peace and the mouthpiece for Pyongyang, said the regime would defy Tokyo. "There are all kinds of possibilities," he said. "There are many Japanese ships in the sea between North Korea and Japan and one possibility is that they could be stopped and boarded. "There are also aircraft in the area, both military and civilian that could be shadowed by our fighters," he said. "This has been done before; in 2003 four MiG fighters shadowed a United States aircraft." He also suggested that North Korea would break off all contacts with Japan and insist that Tokyo's representatives be removed from the six-nation talks on the dismantling of North Korea's nuclear weapons programme. "This is what we mean by taking a hard line," he said. "We faced down the US when we carried out our nuclear test in 2006 and we never backed down. It would be impossible to back down to Japan"...more...

[Gilligan]

Is it me, or does North Korea sound like it's doing whatever it can to get someone to kick its ass?

[Phantom]

"There are also aircraft in the area, both military and civilian that could be shadowed by our fighters," he said

Huh, if they did that the current cost of jet fuel would bankrupt the country, unless they've worked out a way to turn peasants into oil.

[james]

Huh, if they did that the current cost of jet fuel would bankrupt the country, unless they've worked out a way to turn peasants into oil.

i wouldn't put it past them.

[Buraku]

I think the Japan leadership is being stupid once again

Yes the DRPK are cunts, they are a militant regime with some of the worst human rights
However right now 6 groups are slowly getting the Norks to put away their missiles and dismantle their nuke program

But what Japan's LDP is pushing is stupid

Look at this shit objectively
what was it? half a dozen or so kidnapped Japanese people?
With dear Kim Jong ready to kick the bucket Japan should keep in mind a trapped animal is always dangerous
and if they want to play the numbers game with kidnapped people just look how many megumis have been kidnapped in child custody battles between Japan and the US, or the whitewashing of WW2 victims conveniently forgetting the millions of Koreans used as slave labor in Asia
or the thousands of women trafficked each year into the sex industry.
I remember a few years back a Hikikomori kidnapped a baby girl and kept her locked up in his room for 10 years
- WHERE WAS THE OUTRAGE FROM THE LDP AND NPA (keystone cops) ? Nowhere because you only see political outrage when foreign blooded individual does something bad

Japan if it were smart should play it cool and give it time the DPRK time to realize they are fucked, its only ally China does not want them making waves or blowing off nukes in their backyard. If they misbehave or start hitting some one the United States will slap them so fucking hard they will be sorry they ever started trouble

Give the Norks time to realize they are at the end of the line
and keep a gag on the LDP hawks

[Phantom]

I think the Japan leadership is being stupid once again

Whenever the DRPK nutters do something stupid, Japan can use it as an excuse to beef up military defenses without overtly giving China a reason to complain.

Not too long ago, more Patriot missile installations were rolled out around Tokyo thanks to DRPK missile tests, but are reallly there to defend againt the growing number of Chinese nuclear missiles targeted at Japan and the equipping of Chinese submarines and ships with domestically produced cruise missiles. China has been stepping up its probing missions into Japanese territorial zones, especially incursions of submarines into Japanese waters, often to within striking distance of their cruise missiles. Its no big secret.

See also: China Continues Nuke Buildup. The following (Taiwan related) quote is disturbing if you have ever followed the controversy and temptations that surround the use of Neutron Bombs:

Of course the SRBMs directed at Taiwan are mostly armed with conventional warheads. In recent years, however, whenever cross-Strait relations experienced turbulence, Chinese military publications would boast of the effectiveness of their neutron bombs.

You can bet there would be scenarious where these would be used against Japan as well.

More from the BBC on neutron bombs here.

The neutron bomb, or "enhanced radiation" device with its supposed promise of a "clean" kill was believed to be the strategic answer to a hole in the Cold War arsenal.

Whereas a standard thermonuclear device will destroy buildings in a vast shockwave of heat and pressure, the neutron bomb would detonate above a battlefield with, theoretically, little risk of destroying the surrounding area.

The blast would be confined to a radius of no more than a couple of hundred metres but a massive wave of radiation would knock out tank crews, infantry and other personnel.

Even if the buildings did remain, survivors would soon find their bodies filled with elements such as strontium, ensuring that they eventually die of radiation poisoning

[Buraku]

If the DRPK nutters do something stupid, Bush or Obama or whoever will bomb them back into the stoneage
that has always been the agreement

I'm not sure Japan should be getting into a pissing contest with China since Japanese can only really claim to have a superior Navy and are way behind in many areas of the military and it could take Japan years to play catch up. If Japan builds up, China with an economy growing at 8% a year will have no problem pumping cash into military modernization. Also with Japan building up new bombs everyone in the Philippines, India, South Korea, Pakistan, Russia will suddenly want new toys and NPT gets flushed down the toilet once again. What Japan should be doing is some smart ass diplomacy waiting for this DPRK deal to play through and waiting for Kim to kick the bucket and getting the Chinese to disarm and start getting China to dismantling their nukes in favor of closer economic ties.

That Patriot missile system is not going to shield Japan from China or Russia or anyone with a first class military,
its an over priced joke but taxpayers never get the price tag or the punchline because its supposed to make us feel safe and secure from these nasty radioactive and bioweapons. This in turn helps raise the stock price shares of Rocketdyne and LockMart and political contributors to the military industrial complex but beyond that sum there won't be much in return. It's ok for taking out the occasional Iranian, Iraqi scud
but to " protect against the growing number of Chinese nuclear missiles" - give me a break !
Run the numbers, or ask anyone from the aerospace industry
in a nuclear war the system would be completely overwhelmed.
Phantom dude you seriously have no understanding of China or are on drugs if you think the Chinese are going to "neutron bomb" Taiwan. The Chinese are cunning fuckers, and unlike America they think beyond the next 4 year election
they will take Taiwan without war, just like they took HongKong back from the British.

[Phantom]

Buraku, point taken. It often just seems like a reason to spend more money.

Phantom dude you seriously have no understanding of China or are on drugs if you think the Chinese are going to "neutron bomb" Taiwan.

In this case, its the Chinese themselves making the veiled threats to Taiwan with mention of neutron bomb technology, whatever its strategic value. I think any use of nuclear weapons would be insane, but who knows what would happen once the shooting starts? Probably they'd keep Taiwan clean and lob a few over to Japan to settle some old scores.

Edit: This seems to be a more likely use of nuclear weapons by China, to trigger a debilitating electromagnetic pulse by denotating a nuke high above the target area prior to a conventional attack. It would also be more defendable after the hostilities are over because they could claim they were only mitigating the technological advantage of the U.S., Japan and Taiwan and did not target ground forces or civilians directly.

[Phantom]

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[xenomorph42]

I think the Japan leadership is being stupid once again

Yes the DRPK are cunts, they are a militant regime with some of the worst human rights
However right now 6 groups are slowly getting the Norks to put away their missiles and dismantle their nuke program

But what Japan's LDP is pushing is stupid

Look at this shit objectively
what was it? half a dozen or so kidnapped Japanese people?
With dear Kim Jong ready to kick the bucket Japan should keep in mind a trapped animal is always dangerous
and if they want to play the numbers game with kidnapped people just look how many megumis have been kidnapped in child custody battles between Japan and the US, or the whitewashing of WW2 victims conveniently forgetting the millions of Koreans used as slave labor in Asia
or the thousands of women trafficked each year into the sex industry.
I remember a few years back a Hikikomori kidnapped a baby girl and kept her locked up in his room for 10 years
- WHERE WAS THE OUTRAGE FROM THE LDP AND NPA (keystone cops) ? Nowhere because you only see political outrage when foreign blooded individual does something bad

Japan if it were smart should play it cool and give it time the DPRK time to realize they are fucked, its only ally China does not want them making waves or blowing off nukes in their backyard. If they misbehave or start hitting some one the United States will slap them so fucking hard they will be sorry they ever started trouble

Give the Norks time to realize they are at the end of the line
and keep a gag on the LDP hawks

Shit, Where were you during the election? You summed it all up! You got my vote 110%!:D

[Hokgwai]

What?! Again??

[IkemenTommy]

Is it me, or does North Korea sound like it's doing whatever it can to get someone to kick its ass?

Not any more. I bet North Korea is not scared of the U.S. intervention, or rather the lack of, once the new administration takes over.

This is exactly what most of you wanted, right?