Mitsubishifs Too-Cute EV Rolls Out This Year

[james]

[IkemenTommy]

Now that is what I call an instant pussy grabber.

[james]

at 460 man it's gonna be a hard sell i think.. hard to say..

over the lifetime of the car, i guess one would have to consider how much spent on gas and all the other paraphenelia associated with ICEs..

[Doctor Stop]

I wonder how much it will cost over the lifetime of the car to have the thing towed to a charging station when it runs out of juice, or how much it will cost to replace the batteries when the no longer hold a decent charge.

[Mike Oxlong]

at 460 man it's gonna be a hard sell i think.. hard to say..

Holy lightning, Batman!:shock:

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[FG Lurker]

Plasma Boy Racing:

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"Wayland got his "Plasma Boy" appellation a few years back when he shorted out some batteries with a carelessly dropped wrench. The explosion generated a terrifying ball of blue plasma crackling with electric discharges." (From this 2003 Wired article.)

If I was living somewhere with more space and if I had a bit more free time, I'd build myself something like this. There is some cool shit out there, too bad the big manufacturers are ignoring it.

[FG Lurker]

For the gearheads, the White Zombie has about 300hp and nearly 800ft/lbs of torque.

[Zeth3D]

If memory serves me right, back in the early 1900's there was a lot of trouble for gas powered engines to make it into market. Steam and electric competors would advertize that gas worked off of tiny explosions, and who knows what could happen if one explosion went ary.

Since back then electric powered vechicles tried, but the battery technology obvious didnt exist then. But point im trying to lead to is that electric made the arguement that there wasnt a gas economy for gas engines. They argued that you'd have to build refueling stations everywhere, and having them everywhere like that would be dangerous.

The nonexistant economy arguement is essentially the one that gas people now make against electric... which is blatently invalid, since electric IS already everywhere, and can get there cheaper and safer than gas could ever.

(I dont know why i wrote this... i just started writing and whatever... so sorry if its too long, or stuff we already know, or dont care about)

[Grumblebum]

at 460 man it's gonna be a hard sell i think.. hard to say..

This is what really bugs me. Any major car manufacturer should be able to produce and sell a basic EV using existing off-the-shelf parts with the specs of that Mitsubishi for *half* that price.

I just did a quick search, and the cost for the battery (the most expensive part of the EV) would be about $15k. And thats for me buying it from a generic battery wholesaler - nothing like what a big manufacturer could do buying in massive quantity.
Considering they commonly produce and sell a typical 'kei' car for less than 100man, they should be able to produce a body and so on for an EV which they could retail for around 250man including the battery.
I'm certainly no car manufacturing expert, but even I know that all the components for an EV exist, and with the exception of the battery, should actually amount to *less* than what it would cost to build the same car using an internal combustion engine.

[james]

This is what really bugs me. Any major car manufacturer should be able to produce and sell a basic EV using existing off-the-shelf parts with the specs of that Mitsubishi for *half* that price.

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should actually amount to *less* than what it would cost to build the same car using an internal combustion engine.

totally agree. it boggles the mind that it costs them that much to produce when one also considers how little it costs in comparison to do an EV conversion.

i really think they've set their price point too high but would be interested in seeing their cost breakdown.

[FG Lurker]

The price does seem rather extreme, for sure.

A lot of the cost probably comes from having to make an EV that is reliable and safe enough for average people to drive daily on public roads. In some of the other White Zombie videos I have watched they talk about catastrophic engine failures resulting in large quantities of sparks followed by a big ball of plasma. They also have a massive physical kill switch beside the driver because some failures result in the engine being locked on full throttle... These sorts of minor issues might be met with some unhappiness from the general public.

[TFG]

Not only is it expensive but it is probably likely to either explode and burst into flames as you drive it or the wheels may fall off and kill innocent bystanders. Of course Mitsubishi will cover all this up for years as they previously did.

What more can one expect from a former Kamikaze plane manufacturer?

I may buy an EV once the price comes down and Daihatsu makes a small K-type version.

In the meantime, if anyone is thinking of buying a K-type gasoline driven car get a Daihatsu, the works in Daihatsu are made by Toyota are reliable and the interior is classy as in a Toyota.

[Coligny]

Not only is it expensive but it is probably likely to either explode and burst into flames as you drive it or the wheels may fall off and kill innocent bystanders. Of course Mitsubishi will cover all this up for years as they previously did.

What more can one expect from a former Kamikaze plane manufacturer?

I may buy an EV once the price comes down and Daihatsu makes a small K-type version.

In the meantime, if anyone is thinking of buying a K-type gasoline driven car get a Daihatsu, the works in Daihatsu are made by Toyota are reliable and the interior is classy as in a Toyota.

Copen... seks on wheels... bad luck you can't fit roof bars or there is no hunting break version.

As for Mitsu... Does it use Li-po batteries ? They are powerfull... especially when they catch fire. Just check any helo RC website...

[FG Lurker]

In the meantime, if anyone is thinking of buying a K-type gasoline driven car get a Daihatsu

The problem with a kei is that you're always going to come out badly in an accident. No matter what you hit, or what hits you, you're the one who is likely to end up injured, paralyzed, a vegetable, or dead.

the works in Daihatsu are made by Toyota are reliable and the interior is classy as in a Toyota.

Toyota owns Daihatsu and I'm sure they have quite a bit of influence on the company. It's not like Toyota factories are cranking out Daihatsu-badged cars though, and calling a kei interior "classy" is more than a bit of a stretch. A kei is still a kei and you only get what you pay for.

The final problem with driving most kei cars (in an urban area anyway) is that you get ZERO respect on the roads. It's the automotive equivalent to walking around with an "abuse me!" sign taped to your back.

[Doctor Stop]

This is what really bugs me. Any major car manufacturer should be able to produce and sell a basic EV using existing off-the-shelf parts with the specs of that Mitsubishi for *half* that price.

It's not like building a desktop PC out of off-the-shelf components. A lot of these components you've got to design, test and manufacture yourself.

There's some serious R&D behind this car, and I'll still argue that it isn't quite ready for primetime. If another manufacturer tried to build this using existing off-the-shelf parts, it would half as reliable and go half as fast for half as long, and it wouldn't be worth half the price.

[james]

The final problem with driving most kei cars (in an urban area anyway) is that you get ZERO respect on the roads.

on that note, if you, or someone you know is driving a !@^#ing honda life, please get off the god damn road.

[FG Lurker]

on that note, if you, or someone you know is driving a !@^#ing honda life, please get off the god damn road.

You just need a faster car to be able to pass them on shorter stretches of mountain road.