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Postby Bucky » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:23 am

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Postby dimwit » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:54 am

So you should cool down by covering yourself with silly string.
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Postby Yokohammer » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:09 am

dimwit wrote:So you should cool down by covering yourself with silly string.

That could even start a new nationwide fashion trend!
I'm sure the high-school girls would take to that idea ... spray-on accessories that also have a cooling function.

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Postby Coligny » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:10 am

Yokohammer wrote:That could even start a new nationwide fashion trend!
I'm sure the high-school girls would take to that idea ... spray-on accessories that also have a cooling function.

Anyone want to make a fortune?


Make it edible and we can start a whole new world of fetish pr0n...

I already smell the muney... or is it yeast infection ?
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:56 pm

Isn't that blue shite the same thing they're using to clean up the toxic fallout from Fukushima?
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Postby Kanchou » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:18 am

From a physics standpoint, this sounds sort of like powering your home with AA batteries.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:19 am

The Japanese come up with so many fucking stupid products to stay cool in summer and warm in winter. Why not use the tried and true methods of decent insulation, double pane windows, and central heat and air? Oh, never mind. That would make too much sense.
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Postby Kanchou » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:51 am

The average homeowner in Japan is already up to his eyeballs in debt. Buying a home built to modern standards would be out of their reach financially all together, apparently. I guess the money for earthquake proofing has to come from somewhere.

You'd think the country with the world's second most expensive electricity per KWH would make homes and HVAC more efficient thin thin-walled boxes with huge sliding windows (partially) cooled by a single wall-unit.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:57 am

Kanchou wrote:The average homeowner in Japan is already up to his eyeballs in debt. Buying a home built to modern standards would be out of their reach financially all together, apparently.


I wasn't even thinking about houses. Most large apartment blocks and office buildings are the same. New buildings do at least have decent insulation these days but they still use single pane windows.
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Postby Greji » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:17 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I wasn't even thinking about houses. Most large apartment blocks and office buildings are the same. New buildings do at least have decent insulation these days but they still use single pane windows.

Off the top of my head I don't think I have seen any double pane windows in the four seasons land, except where they have been used for safety reasons.
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Postby Yokohammer » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:24 pm

Greji wrote:Off the top of my head I don't think I have seen any double pane windows in the for seasons land, except where they have been used for safety reasons.
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They're common in new (built within the last 10 years or so) homes and buildings in the Tohoku region, to the point of being pretty much standard.
My house, unfortunately, is about 23 years old and is all single-pane. One of my first renovation priorities is to install double glazing.
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Postby Greji » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:28 pm

Yokohammer wrote:They're common in new (built within the last 10 years or so) homes and buildings in the Tohoku region, to the point of being pretty much standard.
My house, unfortunately, is about 23 years old and is all single-pane. One of my first renovation priorities is to install double glazing.

That would make sense in Tohoku and Hokkaido. It's nice to know there is some attempt to modernize the construction industry.
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Postby wuchan » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:45 pm

my house has all double pane shatter proof windows. They are not as good as some of the windows I have seen back in the states but they work.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:18 pm

Yokohammer wrote:[double-pane windows] common in new (built within the last 10 years or so) homes and buildings in the Tohoku region, to the point of being pretty much standard.


The Japanese want to waste energy.

If Japan was even remotely serious about saving energy, there would be IMMEDIATE CHANGE TO THE J-BUILDING CODE MANDATING DUAL-PANE WINDOWS AND AN R-14 INSULATION STANDARD (with proper vapor barriers, weather-stripping, etc.).
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Postby Coligny » Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:35 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:The Japanese want to waste energy.

If Japan was even remotely serious about saving energy, there would be IMMEDIATE CHANGE TO THE J-BUILDING CODE MANDATING DUAL-PANE WINDOWS AND AN R-14 INSULATION STANDARD (with proper vapor barriers, weather-stripping, etc.).


and there goes yer blood pressure...


Seriously, dual pane windows should be mandatory anywhere, either to keep the cold out or to keep the cold in for summertime... (+need some serious UV shielding...)
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Postby Kanchou » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:22 pm

My apartment here has two sets of single-pane windows. Of course, the wall unit is severely underpowered for the winter, given the size of my room (although it's a reasonably comfortable 28 degrees ATM...), and the house doesn't seem to have enough insulation... half of my house is freezing and the other half is simply too cold, and I'm still paying 10,000+ a month for electricity in the winter.

OTOH, my room in my home in the states has a massive double-pane window, but even then it's stupid hot in the summer and stupid cold in winter because it's on the east side of the house, and the window is simply bigger than it needs to be.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:06 pm

Even before the panes, the cost benefits of:
1) moving the time zone permanently one hour ahead; and
2) introducing daylight savings time over summer
would be enormous, in addition to saving this cuntry massive amounts of energy, significantly reducing CO2 emissions and...WTF, TIJ. I give up.
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Postby Greji » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:08 pm

[quote="Screwed-down Hairdo"]Even before the panes, the cost benefits of:
1) moving the time zone permanently one hour ahead]
Man, you really wanna fuck up the cows.....
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:31 pm

My house has double glazing. Seems to be the norm for new buildings these days. As well as the energy saving benefits the noise curtailment is great.
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Postby Coligny » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:51 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Even before the panes, the cost benefits of:
[B]1) moving the time zone permanently one hour ahead]
2) introducing daylight savings time over summer
would be enormous, in addition to saving this cuntry massive amounts of energy, significantly reducing CO2 emissions and...WTF, TIJ. I give up.


I honestly think that 2 or 3 hours should be good...

Here in Toyohashi the sun is usually up and running at 5:00... make it 7 or 8 and you got a deal... and less sleepless night for me... (can't start my night if the sun is already up)
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:43 am

Greji wrote:Man, you really wanna fuck up the cows.....
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You're not propositioning me for a bit of group action, are you?
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Postby Greji » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:28 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:You're not propositioning me for a bit of group action, are you?

That does sound like something to do, but I was referring to when they actually used the fact that changing times for daylight time would fuck up the cows by changing their milking times. This was one of the reasons they actually used for refusing to consider daylight savings time. TIJ
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Postby Yokohammer » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:35 am

Greji wrote:That does sound like something to do, but I was referring to when they actually used the fact that changing times for daylight time would fuck up the cows by changing their milking times. This was one of the reasons they actually used for refusing to consider daylight savings time. TIJ
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I hadn't heard that one!
That deserves pride of place alongside "Japanese snow is different" as an excuse for not importing skis, "Japanese eyes are different" as an excuse for not importing light bulbs, and the intestine length thing.
If you can't think of a proper reason, just make up something totally untenable and stick by it! It's the stick-to-it-iveness that's really important, you see.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:16 pm

Yokohammer wrote:I hadn't heard that one!


That's not a uniquely Japanese excuse...the Queenslanders use it, too. (Which might give a clearer idea of the kind of people we're talking about here....)
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Postby Kanchou » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:06 pm

[quote="Screwed-down Hairdo"]Even before the panes, the cost benefits of:
1) moving the time zone permanently one hour ahead]

It gets too dark too fast here at ~6 during the winters. You don't have time after work to do SHIT that involves sunlight until basically summertime, at which point it will be too hot to do it. Japan needs more than one time zone, separating East and West Japan, and it needs to change the time zone so it's light out until 7:30, and so the sun comes up at 6 like the rest of the world...
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Postby BigInJapan » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:10 pm

Kanchou wrote: Japan needs more than one time zone, separating East and West Japan, and it needs to change the time zone so it's light out until 7:30, and so the sun comes up at 6 like the rest of the world...
You might be onto something with the multiple time zones.
I just took a gander at a weather app on my phone and noticed that down here in Fukuoka, sunrise/sunset is 5:12/19:28, whereas Sapporo is 4:04/19:12, about an hour more daylight.
For comparison, sunrise/sunset on the west coast of Canada is 5:21/21:15.
Moving the clock forward an hour here would mean more later sunsets, but not as late as North America it would seem.
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Postby Jack » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:14 pm

Kanchou wrote:The average homeowner in Japan is already up to his eyeballs in debt.


That is factually wrong so I didn't bother reading the rest of your post.
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Postby Jack » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:23 pm

Kanchou wrote:It gets too dark too fast here at ~6 during the winters. You don't have time after work to do SHIT that involves sunlight until basically summertime, at which point it will be too hot to do it. Japan needs more than one time zone, separating East and West Japan, and it needs to change the time zone so it's light out until 7:30, and so the sun comes up at 6 like the rest of the world...


It's definitely bright outside when everyone is sleeping in the morning and dark too early for nothing. Something has to happen but I don't think it will. Especially in Japan where life gets going pretty late in the morning and people stay up much later than the rest of the world.
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Postby Russell » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:59 pm

The disadvantage of daylight saving time is that it will be later before it cools down at night, so people will likely use their air conditioners for a longer time, making the savings in electricity nil or negative.
It just does not work in this summer's climate.

And there is of course this very Japanese reason that people feel socially obliged to not leave their work until it gets dark...
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Postby matsuki » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:13 am

Kanchou wrote:my room in my home in the states has a massive double-pane window, but even then it's stupid hot in the summer and stupid cold in winter because it's on the east side of the house, and the window is simply bigger than it needs to be.


My current apartment has this massive window over the loft....which is great in the winter but come summer, it's like being an ant under a magnifying glass. I used a block of memory foam to stuff up in there and block some of the heat but what do yah know, the roof itself heats up like a mofo :jawdrop:

Can't remember when this place was built but I regularly come home to a sauna. Took this last night:

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Excuse the shakiness, I was properly drunk :D

...on the other hand, I have capitalized on the heat by distributing "cooling gear." Unfortunately for me, my get rich quick plot was foiled when the [s]child labor camps[/s] factories in China were not able to keep up with demand. Oh well, stuff is still selling like hotcakes before it comes in and I will just have to prepare earlier next year.

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