Samurai_Jerk wrote:Mike Oxlong wrote:Ah, FG...still good fun!
The truth hurts, apparently...
You sure that's a response to this?
Yeah, that, or he likes playing BJJ with other men...like you!
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Samurai_Jerk wrote:Mike Oxlong wrote:Ah, FG...still good fun!
The truth hurts, apparently...
You sure that's a response to this?
Yokohammer wrote:These are very similar to messages sent to members over at Expat Café by someone who repeatedly registered using different names. Some recipients took them seriously and got all freaked out, so I eventually had to make it impossible for new users who hadn't passed the initial probation to send private messages to other users. Might have to do that here too.
Russell wrote:LOL, I got one too...
Mine is a bit more cryptic, though.
Can anybody explain what it means? Is it native English?
Isle of View wrote:gaijinpunch wrote:Other than a generational gap, can someone explain to me the difference in a comfort woman and a sex slave? . . .
UNITED STATES OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION | Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report No. 49.
Mike Oxlong wrote:Not the sharpest crayon in the box, but those rapey types usually aren't.
Russell wrote:Mike Oxlong wrote:Not the sharpest crayon in the box, but those rapey types usually aren't.
Hmm. I wonder whether he even has the qualifications to be a crayon, given his level of creativity...
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Edit: I give him credit for being frank and candid, but there's no place for those qualities in politics. He should fall on his sword immediately.
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:I loved the "comfort bags."
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Among the numerous things the Japanese tend to forget about World War II was how enthusiastically the home front supported the lads even as the cuntry was having the fucken bejeezus bombarded out of it (just as the "average" German kept fighting for the Nazi ideal right to the bitter end) and how well its Korean subjects supported it.
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Listening to Hashimoto live now....he claims Japan is being targeted harshly for something every country does. He seems to forget that the Japanese government was instrumental in setting up its comfort stations. Most countries during World War II may have turned a blind eye to prostitution, but they did not actively organize it. He also refutes prostitution per se, though it's a legal occupation in many parts of the world outside of theocracies such as those found in many parts of the Middle East, East Asia and the United States.
Edit: I give him credit for being frank and candid, but there's no place for those qualities in politics. He should fall on his sword immediately.
wagyl wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:I loved the "comfort bags."
Probably nothing more than an different phrase for "care parcel," but yes it does have an amusing, spectitular image now.Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Among the numerous things the Japanese tend to forget about World War II was how enthusiastically the home front supported the lads even as the cuntry was having the fucken bejeezus bombarded out of it (just as the "average" German kept fighting for the Nazi ideal right to the bitter end) and how well its Korean subjects supported it.
I know you are aware of this but it still bears repeating: there were incredible social forces at work here, there, and everywhere during that period. Not a lot of free will or selfishness was allowed in any of the combatant countries. Out here in the deep snowy valleys the tonari-gumi system is still going strong: set up during the rise of militarism, groups of 10 to 15 houses keeping an eye on -- in a good way and in a bad way -- all the others in the group. There are much older tansu with post-war handles on the drawers here ... you pop around to the neighbour's place for a cuppa, notice that they haven't sent metal for melting down for the war effort, and report it for fear that you will be reported for failing to report it.
What really brought it home was last year, we were all working on clearing out a community storehouse. At the back was a box of decorations and musical instruments. The older guys started opening up and talking about it. It was all bought to give the boys a good send off as they went down to the railway siding to be shipped of to fight. Now, no parent ever wants their son to go to war, however much they feel it is their duty. Imagine the feelings of these people who are not only giving their children to this cause, but also spending money on buying musical instruments and having to make a jolly noise about it as they send their sons off. Not to mention the idiocy that you buy a bugle while at the same time you are sending your drawer handles to be melted down. But if you didn't go to such lengths your patriotism was suspect, and as we all know, "if you are not with us, you are against us."
So, I question the "enthusiasm."
Yokohammer wrote:I have new admiration for Ogura though, who nimbly assisted Hashimoto in shoving the other foot in as well. What a fucking mess.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I got one too! Yay!!
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Isle of View wrote:gaijinpunch wrote:Other than a generational gap, can someone explain to me the difference in a comfort woman and a sex slave? . . .
UNITED STATES OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION | Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report No. 49.
That was a tremendously interesting document (doubly valuable for being so in a topic that's been done to death).
In addition to the passage on the "average" Korean comfort woman, I loved the "comfort bags."
Among the numerous things the Japanese tend to forget about World War II was how enthusiastically the home front supported the lads even as the cuntry was having the fucken bejeezus bombarded out of it (just as the "average" German kept fighting for the Nazi ideal right to the bitter end) and how well its Korean subjects supported it. Indeed, the current Korean president is the offspring of a former officer of the Imperial Japanese Army. The Koreans, too, have many closets that open with chimes from "Dem Bones..."
Yokohammer wrote:These are very similar to messages sent to members over at Expat Café by someone who repeatedly registered using different names. Some recipients took them seriously and got all freaked out, so I eventually had to make it impossible for new users who hadn't passed the initial probation to send private messages to other users. Might have to do that here too.
chokonen888 wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Isle of View wrote:gaijinpunch wrote:Other than a generational gap, can someone explain to me the difference in a comfort woman and a sex slave? . . .
UNITED STATES OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION | Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report No. 49.
That was a tremendously interesting document (doubly valuable for being so in a topic that's been done to death).
In addition to the passage on the "average" Korean comfort woman, I loved the "comfort bags."
Among the numerous things the Japanese tend to forget about World War II was how enthusiastically the home front supported the lads even as the cuntry was having the fucken bejeezus bombarded out of it (just as the "average" German kept fighting for the Nazi ideal right to the bitter end) and how well its Korean subjects supported it. Indeed, the current Korean president is the offspring of a former officer of the Imperial Japanese Army. The Koreans, too, have many closets that open with chimes from "Dem Bones..."
Just watched a new North Korea documentary...the similarities with the Japanese mindset are scary. Of course, North Korea has taken it to the extreme but it's the same mentality. Hospital tour showing the latest technology but no patients, can't see patients unless the patient gives consent but then again you can't ask the patient for consent if you can't see them. That circular logic sound familiar? Superior race complex and everything that went wrong is blamed/excused on "it's the Americans" all while they tried to cover up anything that made the country look bad.
Mike Oxlong wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:Mike Oxlong wrote:Ah, FG...still good fun!
The truth hurts, apparently...
You sure that's a response to this?
Yeah, that, or he likes playing BJJ with other men...like you!
“I will tell the comfort women that I’m sorry for Japan having had such a system no matter whether it was forcible or not,” Hashimoto said. “It was a disgraceful act and should never be repeated.”
But Hashimoto, who has been mentioned as a possible future prime minister, insisted sexual exploitation of women was not unique to Japan.
“During World War II, neither the U.S. nor the British militaries had comfort stations or comfort women, but it is an obvious fact that they made use of local women.
“Japan was not the only one doing this,” he said. “Everybody was doing bad things. I think Japanese people… should offer objections if there is a misunderstanding of facts overseas.”
There is no mainstream evidence that other countries’ modern militaries have employed a formal sex slavery system.
Hashimoto prompted outrage at home and abroad by saying on Monday that soldiers living with the daily threat of death needed some way to let off steam which was provided by the comfort women system.
Up to 200,000 women from Korea, China, the Philippines and elsewhere were forcibly drafted into brothels catering to the Japanese military in territories occupied by Japan during WWII, according to many mainstream historians.
Hashimoto’s comments reflect an opinion not uncommon among those on the right of Japanese politics that there was no direct involvement in the system by either the state or the imperial army.
The position holds that while there may have been coercion, it was carried out by individuals, gangs or businesses, some of which were non-Japanese.
Kanchou wrote:I'm watching him too and while at first it sounded like he was making a good point, he took a quick turn into backtracking and now he's clearly saying something completely different from what he meant with the first couple statements. Now he's even saying Japan should apologize for it.
He apparently doesn't realize that the reason people are made isn't because he said it was necessary, but because he's basically the Japanese version of a holocaust denier.
He also doesn't seem to realize that none of the other countries systemized military prostitution.
Kanchou wrote:He apparently doesn't realize that the reason people are mad isn't because he said it was necessary, but because he's basically the Japanese version of a holocaust denier.
Kanchou wrote:He also doesn't seem to realize that none of the other countries systemized military prostitution.
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:The more Japan and people like Hashimoto protest the sex slave issue, the worse they look. (Speaking of sex slaves, I think Hashimoto is right to complain about this being a translation for "comfort women." It's not the correct term, either in translation or in reality....but clouding this issue is one of the goals of insidious racists like Hashimoto, so this is more than a simple issue of picking the right word.)
Russell wrote:Not clear to me why you think the term sex slaves is incorrect, even if not all of them were forced to provide sex (as far as I understand, the majority was forced).
Any more info on this?
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