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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby Russell » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:07 pm

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Russell wrote:NHK probably read our NHK thread and concluded that it's better to stop broadcasting Youtube videos.

After all, we are all employed by NHK, innit?


Some of us are technically freelancers.

Anyway, next Gaijin Illuminati in the NHK Studio Park Club Souterraine, special guest Mr. Kaigai Tsuiho of the Immigration Department who will be seeking our advice on what kind of foreigners they should be letting into the country from now on. The event will be supported by our sponsor, GAS KB.

Didn't you know that KB Gas dropped out because they couldn't afford our financial demands anymore. Fortunately, we got that sponsorship from TEPCO to more than make up for it...
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby havill » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:44 pm

Looks like the U.S. Military is about to construct a few onsen of its own:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... ttoos.html
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby havill » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:05 pm

anybody notice that Japan Times deleted their Maori tattoo article:

Tattooed Maori barred by bath in Hokkaido

goes to

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/article-expired/

Here's a mirrored / cached copy:

http://cached.newslookup.com/cached.php ... lTjdVC-0yo

Anybody know the reasons why? Was there something dodgy with the reporting?
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby Coligny » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:19 pm

Standard expiry time for their articulz ? Maybee...
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:49 pm

JT wrote:The article you have been looking for has expired and is not longer available on our system. This is due to newswire licensing terms.
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby kurogane » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:35 pm

Am I the only one that thought it was really cool that they banned the gorky spotted dyke? Yeah, yeah, tattooos, Maoris, blah blah blah. Show up in Otaru looking like the eunuch Bigfoot when The Last Emperor made him drink the inkwell to prove his absolute power, and voila!

NO BATH FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voluntary foot-binding is sure to catch on in China once they realise how traditional it really was and the lifetsyle it will afford them.

Tradition is usually an excuse for retards to follow their Inner Voice.

From what I remember of that article, she was very gracious about it all, which is a nice break from the usual entitlement addled indigenous whineocracy we're used to in Canada, and next time she'll know to stop off at Ha-Do Offu and pick up a package of chin masks.

Now all she needs to do is grow out the dyke cut, cut down on the late night XL All Dressed Pizzas, and start jogging.

Also, and this is meant affectiontely, to be clear. the general sense of persecution on here can approach Debito/Chris Johnson levels, even though it's actually just acerbic steam being let off. You're white people in First World Asia. You don't know the meaning of the word Discrimination, and probably never will.

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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby nikoneko » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:06 pm

Wow. Racist, homophobic, and asshole all in one post. Fuck you too, etc.
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby Russell » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:21 pm

kurogane wrote:Tradition is usually an excuse for retards to follow their Inner Voice the masses.

FTFY.
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:13 pm

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The Japan Tourism Agency decided Wednesday to ask operators of accommodation and other resort facilities to allow foreign visitors with tattoos to use spas...
...problems with spa operators refusing them the use of facilities due to their tattoos. Such problems reflect a limited understanding in Japan about acquiring tattoos for fashion, religious reasons or tribal customs.
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:56 pm

Can they get away with accepting tattooed foreigners but still banning locals?
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby matsuki » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:15 pm

The agency plans to introduce examples for avoiding problems, such as the use of seals to hide tattoos...


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Postby Coligny » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:44 pm

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I prefer Spetsnaz...
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby kurogane » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:43 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Can they get away with accepting tattooed foreigners but still banning locals?


We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone
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Feck Rock was cool.

Most Japanese I have met with tattoos (not Irezumi) are just stupid hipster douchebags now learning what being young and dumb means. Most white people with tattoos are worthless trash. If they weren't, they wouldn't be tattoed, non? I hope they don't let those filthy plebs in anywhere I go, though it should spawn a new market for people not raised on gruel and Wonder Bread.

They don't really have any discrimination laws per se anyways, do they?
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby wuchan » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:02 pm

kurogane wrote: Most white people with tattoos are worthless trash. If they weren't, they wouldn't be tattoed, non? I hope they don't let those filthy plebs in anywhere I go, though it should spawn a new market for people not raised on gruel and Wonder Bread.



wow. really?


Tattoos have become very popular among the well paid blue collar crowd in the US. People that make over $50 an hour. The hard working, well paid, blue collar american is making a big comeback. High quality tattoo work is very expensive these days and it has become a bit of a status symbol.
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby kurogane » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:23 pm

wuchan wrote:
kurogane wrote: Most white people with tattoos are worthless trash. If they weren't, they wouldn't be tattoed, non? I hope they don't let those filthy plebs in anywhere I go, though it should spawn a new market for people not raised on gruel and Wonder Bread.

wow. really?

Tattoos have become very popular among the well paid blue collar crowd in the US. People that make over $50 an hour. The hard working, well paid, blue collar american is making a big comeback. High quality tattoo work is very expensive these days and it has become a bit of a status symbol.


Amongst people that think Trump has a point, maybe. I did say trash, after all. FTR, I consider Trash an attitude, not an economic status per se. If you have a tattoo it means one of 3 things: you are trash, you were trash, you once thought it would be cool to be trash, or you were in the military.
The last one excuses most youthful indiscretions anyways, if only out of gratitude. And yeah, yeah, 4 things.

BTW, I think it's fucking aces if they're getting paid like that. My point is there no need to celebrate plebby degeneracy. Plebs need to be paid and beaten in equal measure. That way we can get rid of their sorry fat, white asses. Get paid, get up. get out. If you have a tattoo you're trash. That's how being trash works.

Plus, I'm trolling ;)
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby wagyl » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:05 pm

Isn't it cooler to say that you appreciate art, but prefer it not to be in a form which requires the flensing of your skin from your flesh after you die if you want to preserve it.

The other way to look at it is that there are not many things you can buy these days for 250 bucks which will last you your whole life.

Then again, you are trolling. Who that go trit-trot trit-trot over my bridge?

I must say that I am noticing more tattooed people in onsen lately -- of a range of nationalities including local. Sometimes you can tell that they have certain affiliations, even if digitally complete. Other times it is a "fashion statement." The whole rule always struck me as fundamentally flawed. If you are truly trying to use that sledgehammer to break the nut of keeping yakuza away, do you really think your staff have the balls to go up to the angry looking man with Benten-sama going from his neck down to his buttocks, and ask him to leave when he is already naked and relaxing in your bath? Truth is, nobody actually cares. It only becomes an issue with the group of tittering guys in the far corner sneaking a peek and then supping on scandal amongst themselves, because "someone is breaking a rule." NOT because "someone has a tattoo."
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Postby kurogane » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:35 pm

All well said, but you still have to be pretty far from properly raised to do that to yourself without some sort of military style lapse of reason. The art argument is for insipid faggots (regardless of sexual orientation, natch), and nothing that can be done to the body can rival the body itself anyways. FTR, I couldn't give a flying fuck if the self-mutilation crowd is in the bath with me or not, but when they complain they can't get in because they are or have been shitferbrained retards it does make it all rather comical. Tattoos are for military, retards, douchebags and Maoris, whether it be a permament or transitory condition. And most of the Maoris I have met qualify on at least 2 of those counts, though they do tend to do better than the Oompaloompaloo or WTF white NZers call themselves. So much for the anthropology of it. I would have included hipsters but the categories prior to Maoris seemed sufficiently comprehensive. Tattoos are the mohawk haircut or nose piercing that never goes away, and I think we know the type that gets those.
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Re: Maori guest lecturer banned from Hokkaido onsen for...

Postby wagyl » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:45 pm

kurogane wrote:Oompaloompaloo

Pakeha, perhaps?

Meanwhile...
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Postby legion » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:54 pm

Getting a tat is like getting a Facebook page, you got one because your friends did and now you are stuck with it.

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/653039/tattoo-fixers-sketch-brix-shaumburg-devastated

I find tattoos illogical, you are fixing your self image at a point in your life, but in reality life is about progression. People who have them seem to want to be judged by them and not judged by them at the same time. "Look at me, I'm a bad girl rebel, but you have to let me in your sports club because I am a regular citizen" "Accept me for who I am!" "Yeah, someone with no taste"

I used to know a young Japanese guy who got a huge single kanji tattooed on his back, he was a well proportioned good looking boy and the tat was a big square looking kanji, apparently it meant something like nihilism, which suited him at the time, he'd graduated from college and was living in his car with his girlfriend shoplifting from convenis to eat. Then he got a job with an Otemachi trading company and became a suit.

I wonder whether his tat will show a refreshing honesty when his coworkers see it at the sports club, or will the Nikkei reading amakudari ojisans wonder if they are comfortable with a nihilist handling their retirement bonus.
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Postby legion » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:59 pm

wagyl wrote:
kurogane wrote:Oompaloompaloo

Pakeha, perhaps?

Meanwhile...


Based on the insight that Maori men have very strong family values so speaking to them through their kids is a good way to get them not to smoke and drive. It's a great PSA.
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Postby kurogane » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:03 pm

無


Like that?

Anyways, yes to the rest.
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Postby matsuki » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:09 pm

wagyl wrote:The whole rule always struck me as fundamentally flawed. If you are truly trying to use that sledgehammer to break the nut of keeping yakuza away, do you really think your staff have the balls to go up to the angry looking man with Benten-sama going from his neck down to his buttocks, and ask him to leave when he is already naked and relaxing in your bath? Truth is, nobody actually cares. It only becomes an issue with the group of tittering guys in the far corner sneaking a peek and then supping on scandal amongst themselves, because "someone is breaking a rule." NOT because "someone has a tattoo."


Chicka I took to my mountain got kicked out of the local onsen for her large back tattoo. (I don't think there are any signs at that place either?) Still, I'm pretty shocked they had the balls to actually walk in there and ask her to leave while she's in the middle of washing up. (Which took an interesting turn when she noticed the manager that kicked her out had tattoo'd eyebrows :lol: Like you say, fundamentally flawed)

Sidenote: I've met more locals that have a problem with pierced ears than with tattoos.
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Postby legion » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:11 pm

kurogane wrote:
無


Like that?

Anyways, yes to the rest.


No, it was an obscure kanji.
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Postby Coligny » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:27 pm

This thread is turning into a reactionary meetup...

Next stop for crucifixion divorced wiminz and people who don't follow the sunday mass in latin ...
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Postby wagyl » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:46 pm

legion wrote:
kurogane wrote:
無


Like that?

Anyways, yes to the rest.


No, it was an obscure kanji.

I suppose 虚 is another possibility but I, too, would have gone for 無 first, as a fundamental Buddhist notion.

In any event, calligraphy is not appropriate on a body, in my opinion. I can live with a picture -- on other people -- but those butterflies on the small of the back get old pretty quickly.
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Postby Russell » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:55 pm

matsuki wrote:
wagyl wrote:The whole rule always struck me as fundamentally flawed. If you are truly trying to use that sledgehammer to break the nut of keeping yakuza away, do you really think your staff have the balls to go up to the angry looking man with Benten-sama going from his neck down to his buttocks, and ask him to leave when he is already naked and relaxing in your bath? Truth is, nobody actually cares. It only becomes an issue with the group of tittering guys in the far corner sneaking a peek and then supping on scandal amongst themselves, because "someone is breaking a rule." NOT because "someone has a tattoo."

Chicka I took to my mountain got kicked out of the local onsen for her large back tattoo. (I don't think there are any signs at that place either?) Still, I'm pretty shocked they had the balls to actually walk in there and ask her to leave while she's in the middle of washing up.

Must have been a complaint from a local obahan to the manager.

I'm pretty sure the person walking in there had no balls, though...
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Postby wagyl » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:58 pm

Russell wrote:I'm pretty sure the person walking in there had no balls, though...

Well spotted! Prize to the cloggie!
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Postby legion » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:37 pm

wagyl wrote:
legion wrote:
kurogane wrote:
無


Like that?

Anyways, yes to the rest.


No, it was an obscure kanji.

I suppose 虚 is another possibility but I, too, would have gone for 無 first, as a fundamental Buddhist notion.

In any event, calligraphy is not appropriate on a body, in my opinion. I can live with a picture -- on other people -- but those butterflies on the small of the back get old pretty quickly.


Don't think it was 虚, hadn't really thought of his mind state being in any way Buddhist, but it's an interesting angle. As I recall when I asked the meaning they had a hard time explaining it, and his girlfriend's sister who was a good buddy of mine spoke very good English.

I remember he was quite into ambient music like Chain Reaction at one time and I always assumed he was more orientated to modern industrial bleakness than wearing a basket on his head and blowing across the bamboo.

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Postby wuchan » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:51 pm

kurogane wrote:
wuchan wrote:
kurogane wrote: Most white people with tattoos are worthless trash. If they weren't, they wouldn't be tattoed, non? I hope they don't let those filthy plebs in anywhere I go, though it should spawn a new market for people not raised on gruel and Wonder Bread.

wow. really?

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Amongst people that think Trump has a point, maybe. I did say trash, after all. FTR, I consider Trash an attitude, not an economic status per se. If you have a tattoo it means one of 3 things: you are trash, you were trash, you once thought it would be cool to be trash, or you were in the military.
The last one excuses most youthful indiscretions anyways, if only out of gratitude. And yeah, yeah, 4 things.

BTW, I think it's fucking aces if they're getting paid like that. My point is there no need to celebrate plebby degeneracy. Plebs need to be paid and beaten in equal measure. That way we can get rid of their sorry fat, white asses. Get paid, get up. get out. If you have a tattoo you're trash. That's how being trash works.

Plus, I'm trolling ;)


sorry dawg, the people I am taking about HATE trump. I'm talking about the union people that make 60+k a year at 30 years old.
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Postby kurogane » Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:23 am

Nice to hear, and probably fair enough. I think most people getting tats these days are more liberal than the old Navy boys & bikers from days of yore.

At any rate, I was trolling, and I think it's objectionable and stupid to refuse entry to somebody based on something that trivial, esp. when I have never ever seen them refuse entry to the Yaks that are said to be the source of the objection. I wouldn't doubt that many pissy older people object more to hipster tats than to Yak tats: the latter is, at least, a sort of rite of passage or badge of association, whereas the former is seen as voluntary stupidity and definitely suggests an unwillingness to conform to accepted mores, which is a far greater sin to that ilk. Which is probably why so many people with tattoos are actually nice, thoughtful, often very progressive people, that one blind spot aside :rolleyes:

Legion,
Not to be pedantic, but Nihilism is 虚無主義, but even if the Kanji was different but still a Buddhist or Eastern notion then there might have been something lost in translation. :?:
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