Jpn woman (20) missing in Okinawa; US military suspect

[matsuki]

I have seen a lot of panicky posts on FB from US military dependents who seem to think that these swarthy Okinawans are culturally similar to swarthy peoples in areas they occupy and/or bomb the shit out of on a semi-regular basis. Looks like mitsuki is one of them.

Who's Mitsuki? That bitch!!

FYI, that wasn't a panicky post, I'm nowhere near Okinawa nor is it a reflection of my views on Okinawan culture....was just reporting what was in my inbox. If anything, I find Japanese "demo" amusing with their schedules, organized jiji's with signs parade....err demo march, and usual lack of impact.

[Mike Oxlong]

I have seen a lot of panicky posts on FB from US military dependents who seem to think that these swarthy Okinawans are culturally similar to swarthy peoples in areas they occupy and/or bomb the shit out of on a semi-regular basis. Looks like mitsuki is one of them.

Who's Mitsuki? That bitch!!

FYI, that wasn't a panicky post, I'm nowhere near Okinawa nor is it a reflection of my views on Okinawan culture....was just reporting what was in my inbox. If anything, I find Japanese "demo" amusing with their schedules, organized jiji's with signs parade....err demo march, and usual lack of impact.

Really? So why would you find your inbox clutter post-worthy?

[matsuki]

...because the upcoming demo is related to this thread? I didn't chime in with a comment like:

[Mike Oxlong]

No. You reposted some DOS PSA as though it was a concern for Americans abroad in Japan just as it reads, the same as all the dependents here who refuse to use the difficult local currency and get livid when restaurants won't take reservations in American. You are too busy to edit your own "emotional tampon team-stalker" post, but have plenty of time to play Chicken Little and duck for cover behind gifs and memes. If one had to choose a spokemodel for everything wrong with 'Murica today, they'd be hard-pressed to find a better one. Land of Historical Entitlement, indeed...USA! USA!

[matsuki]

No. You reposted some DOS PSA as though it was a concern for Americans abroad in Japan just as it reads, the same as all the dependents here who refuse to use the difficult local currency and get livid when restaurants won't take reservations in American. You are too busy to edit your own "emotional tampon team-stalker" post, but have plenty of time to play Chicken Little and duck for cover behind gifs and memes. If one had to choose a spokemodel for everything wrong with 'Murica today, they'd be hard-pressed to find a better one. Land of Historical Entitlement, indeed...USA! USA!

Dude, it was a simple copy and paste post to stir discussion on the upcoming demo...my reaction to the embassy mail simply being "more demo fun in Okinawa!" Wherever you're getting this "swarthy people" and Okinawan cultural judgement bullshit from, it's not me.

You seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder regarding the bases but just so we're clear, I'm not and have never been in the military, nor am I a dependent or "pro bases in foreign countries."

[Samurai_Jerk]

Matsuki, you tend to post things without giving context and then get annoyed with people don't have the ability to read your mind or understand your motives. This is something that's been pointed out to you before by others. In this case you didn't even bother to tell people what the source of that warning was. I figured it was probably an email from the embassy but I'm sure there are others who were wondering.

[wagyl]

Dipping an oar in where it is not requested, I think this is an example of "retweet without comment means I agree." Otherwise, we can't read your mind about what your purpose is. Simulpost with SJ.

Did you read all of what you copy pasted? I can see where the "be frightened by the actions of the restless natives" idea came from:

June 17, 2016

alert U.S. citizens...

less than 2 miles south west of “Kokusai Dori,” a major tourist and shopping destination in Naha...

You should avoid areas of demonstrations and exercise caution if in the vicinity of any large gatherings.

[kurogane]

I have seen a lot of panicky posts on FB from US military dependents who seem to think that these swarthy Okinawans are culturally similar to swarthy peoples in areas they occupy and/or bomb the shit out of on a semi-regular basis. Looks like mitsuki is one of them.

To be fair, once there's 12 of them, they get a lot like chugs pretty quick there, eh!
I would just have avoided said area, but even if I had been there I would have liked what they had to say. The funny part is, most of them like that, and the ones that don't are usually polite enough or small enough.

BTW, as a general reference Mitsuki thinks Men's Rights are an important issue, rather than a lack of testicular fortitude.

[BigInJapan]

To be fair, once there's 12 of them, they get a lot like chugs pretty quick there, eh!

I try to keep up with the ever-changing English vernacular via movies, TV shows, and of course the good ol' interwebs, but I must confess I had to look up "chugs."
Just to clarify, would you be referring to the following use? (I can't say I ever heard this term prior to leaving Canada in 1992.)

chug
In Canada, a filthy, drunken Native/First Nation person, so called because they'll slam back any intoxicant they get their hands on (liquor, Lysol, etc) to achieve the maximum effect, and also so they don't have to share with fellow chugs.
www.urbandictionary.com/chug

A little more sleuthing turned up this Vancouver Observer article from 2011 which indicates it is indeed fairly new slang:

New slang and new self-awareness for native teens in Vancouver high schools
Immigrant and first-generation teens struggle to define what it means to be Canadian. They turn to buzzwords like multiculturalism, tolerance and acceptance. Some say it’s like a passport, or that it’s ancestral. Others just don’t know. In the wake of Macleans' 'Too Asian?' controversy, The Vancouver Observer asked 35 teenagers how they see themselves and each other.

. . .

In Vancouver, ‘chug’ is slang for people of Aboriginal ancestry who are heavy drinkers and act rowdy in public places. Native youth in this city are increasingly using the term amongst each other, a trend some native teens say fractures a community already struggling with racism from outsiders.
http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politi ... -divisions

[kurogane]

So not new it is hard to describe: I learned it from my dirty uncles, and they were born when King was a new PM. BUT, we did determine the other day that it's a Vancouver area (BC?) term. None of my non-native friends knew it. And by non-native I mean Not Originally From Vancouver (NOFV) white folk. AKA Westarians.

I wonder if its newer use is not like American blacks calling each other Negro? WTF the Ethnic Studies ilk calls that. I was just being naughty there, btw. It's a filthy term. But some Okinawans do drink like that, and certainly most cannot hold their liquor as well as ethnic Japanese. Which is a low bar to aim for.

[inflames]

Dipping an oar in where it is not requested, I think this is an example of "retweet without comment means I agree." Otherwise, we can't read your mind about what your purpose is. Simulpost with SJ.

Did you read all of what you copy pasted? I can see where the "be frightened by the actions of the restless natives" idea came from:

June 17, 2016

alert U.S. citizens...

less than 2 miles south west of “Kokusai Dori,” a major tourist and shopping destination in Naha...

You should avoid areas of demonstrations and exercise caution if in the vicinity of any large gatherings.

I get the US embassy e-mails - every e-mail has something like that in it (stuff about avoiding areas and exercise caution).

I always laugh because this is Japan where the odds of something happening are basically zero.

Just have to get MiL to shut up about how 蓮舫 isn't really Japanese because she might need to exercise caution if she keeps it up.

[Mike Oxlong]

So not new it is hard to describe: I learned it from my dirty uncles, and they were born when King was a new PM. BUT, we did determine the other day that it's a Vancouver area (BC?) term. None of my non-native friends knew it. And by non-native I mean Not Originally From Vancouver (NOFV) white folk. AKA Westarians.

I wonder if its newer use is not like American blacks calling each other Negro? WTF the Ethnic Studies ilk calls that. I was just being naughty there, btw. It's a filthy term. But some Okinawans do drink like that, and certainly most cannot hold their liquor as well as ethnic Japanese. Which is a low bar to aim for.

I grew up with the term chug, friends from Ontario did not. Seems to be an out West thing.

[Takechanpoo]

But some Okinawans do drink like that, and certainly most cannot hold their liquor as well as ethnic Japanese

this comment is based on a delusion made up by western medias and lefty j-medias. almost all of okinawa ppl themselves DO think are ethnic japanese. actually if someone ask them "are you japanese?", "you are really good at speaking japanese.", or something like that, they will get embarrassed or angry as fuck. it will be just like "huh? wtf is this guy talking about? eh? "just try it next time.

[wagyl]

But some Okinawans do drink like that, and certainly most cannot hold their liquor as well as ethnic Japanese

this comment is based on a delusion made up by western medias and lefty j-medias. most of okinawa ppl themselves DO think are ethnic japanese. actually if someone ask them "are you japanese?", "you are really good at speaking japanese.", or something like that, they will get embarrassed or angry as fuck. it will be just like "huh? wtf is this guy talking about? eh? "just try it next time.

Because only ethnic Japanese can speak Japanese.....

(I did have someone at work years ago ask if I was nikkei. I had to laugh. My Portuguese is not nearly good enough to be nikkei.)

[dimwit]

I grew up with the term chug, friends from Ontario did not. Seems to be an out West thing.

Totally new one to me.

[Mike Oxlong]

I grew up with the term chug, friends from Ontario did not. Seems to be an out West thing.

Totally new one to me.

Whereaboots in Kanata do you hail from?

[dimwit]

I grew up with the term chug, friends from Ontario did not. Seems to be an out West thing.

Totally new one to me.

Whereaboots in Kanata do you hail from?

The place to stand and go.

You don't have to thank me for that.

[Mike Oxlong]

Central Canuckistanian is alright by me. Got a granny from Kitchener-Waterloo.

[kurogane]

I got nobody out that way and it's still fine. It's just such an easy target for a tease it's hard not to yield to temptation. I did a 4 year stretch in Kingston myself (cue olde East Ontario joke); the summers were glorious. So anyways, yeah....chug. Nasty word, but it's our very own it seems.

Because only ethnic Japanese can speak Japanese.....

Obrigado. With apologies for shaking that tree ethnic Okinawans are not ethnic Japanese and not knowing or counting them as such doesn't make it so. May your own delusions bring you comfort.

[matsuki]

I grew up with the term chug, friends from Ontario did not. Seems to be an out West thing.

Totally new one to me.

Not sure I qualify for chug status as I don't stash a mickey on me at all times but that one time in waterloo I felt like a total hoser when almost hit the hydro pole because that lady at the Tim Hortons screwed up my double double...I had to search in my knapsack for whitener while driving. (fresh homo milk was in the boot)

[BigInJapan]

Not sure I qualify for chug status as I don't stash a mickey on me at all times but that one time in waterloo I felt like a total hoser when almost hit the hydro pole because that lady at the Tim Hortons screwed up my double double...I had to search in my knapsack for whitener while driving. (fresh homo milk was in the boot)

That was a pretty convincing attempt at using as many Canuckisms as possible in one sentence .
Just one thing, "boot" is British, and although Canucks use UK spellings (for some, but not all words), we say hood and trunk.
I grew up on Vancouver Island, and a couple of native friends during college referred to themselves as either Indian, or native - never heard the "C" word.
Nowadays it seems that First Nations is the PC way to go.

[matsuki]

Dammit, I could have sworn I've heard Canadians saying "boot" before.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Dammit, I could have sworn I've heard Canadians saying "boot" before.

Maybe it was "aboot."

[Takechanpoo]

ethnic okinawan is almost as a meaningless categorizing as Emishi or Ainu is. its like a plausibly decorated empty box.
needless to say about emishi(btw im legitimately a descendant of emishi), ainu is getting to progress too much mixed blood with japanese and even the quarter ainu already doesnt exist on the earth. it just exists only inside lefty liberal guys la la la brains.

[kurogane]

Take,
Many is also that which is because of that which has. We are always to hope. But because it is to think is not always that which is. Your tiny worthless penis is not to say cannot make of that which many have for that. But is sad, like you. Moreover.

I grew up on Vancouver Island,

I'm Vancouver, middle of town. I go with Native, just because it seems polite. All we really want is for them to figure their way out of the hole, anyways, eh!? Rather nice to hear you’ve never heard chug. Like I said, Ugly Word anyways.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Nowadays it seems that First Nations is the PC way to go.

Doesn't that describe them as a group not as individuals? Or are people calling themselves First Nationers or something like that?

[BigInJapan]

Nowadays it seems that First Nations is the PC way to go.

Doesn't that describe them as a group not as individuals? Or are people calling themselves First Nationers or something like that?

I've been away too long to give a knowledgeable answer, but have a look at the following info from the First Nations wiki page I referenced previously:

Within Canada, "First Nations" (most often used in the plural) has come into general use—replacing the deprecated term "Indians"—for the indigenous peoples of the Americas. Individuals using the term outside Canada include supporters of the Cascadian independence movement as well as American tribes within the Pacific Northwest. The singular, commonly used on culturally politicized reserves, is the term First Nations person (when gender-specific, First Nations man or First Nations woman). A more recent trend is for members of various nations to refer to themselves by their tribal or national identity only, e.g., "I'm Haida", or "We're Kwantlens", in recognition of the distinctiveness of First Nations ethnicities.

And from the horse's mouth... ("I'm first nation")

[Samurai_Jerk]

They weren't nations so they should come up with a better term.

[Takechanpoo]

a plausibly decorated empty box

it seems like this phrase struck the wanna-be liberal guys heartstrings so hard.

actually look at the decorated empty comments by the decorated empty box dude.

[kurogane]

They weren't nations so they should come up with a better term.

That's arguable, depending how you define nation. The problem is it's a stupid term: it posits a hierarchy or priority that belies the sad reality of gross inequality and neglect, and it irks the Angry Saxons that might otherwise be agreeable to progressive policies promoting integration, equality and development. As for its currency, I would say it is now the default term, and not just PC. I avoid it when I am not surrounded by charity class types but can't be bothered to avoid it if there are fingers waiting to wag.