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Postby blackcat » Thu May 15, 2003 11:55 pm

I read this story years ago... THE ONLY CANNIBAL IN THE WORLD SET FREE, all others have been executed, are on death row..or the key has been thrown away

BUT JAPAN, killing a NON japanese...NOT EVEN CHARGED 8O 8O

he was a student in europe and killed and ate a dutch woman. later wrote how he ate her and the taste texture...the french locked him up, but his rich daddy pushed to get him free, the french assumed he was insane and sent him back, thinking in japan he`ll be locked up....he was a minor celebrity and even got into the porn industry using a montage of his victim in some movies :twisted:

oH well she wasnt japanese so....whatever!!! where are the concerned people worried about him being free????? but the hooligans :roll: :roll: ahahahhggrhha they are going to kill us all arraghahha.

BTWby his comments, notice how HE`S the VICTIM now, thats a japanese trait.

http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/face/0212/1205cannibal.html

Japan's most notorious killer
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By Marvin Feltcher
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December 5, 2002





Issei Sagawa is escorted to a plane back to Japan by French police

It has been over 21 years since Issei Sagawa committed one of the most shocking and heinous crimes in modern history. He freely admits to having slaughtered a Dutch woman in Paris, sexually violated her corpse, then literally butchered her so he could eat some of her remains.
Sagawa returned to Japan and became something of a morbid celebrity during the late '80s before disappearing from the public eye. But now, according to Shukan Shincho (12/12), Sagawa has reappeared at, of all places, an anti-war demonstration in Tokyo that attracted some 25,000 protesters.

Before going any further, it's important to note that despite what he did to that poor young woman in Paris, Sagawa, for a variety of legal loopholes that space doesn't permit to be explained here, has never been charged for what he did. It makes the now 53-year-old cannibal's presence at protest arguing over the importance of human life all the more ironic.

"What brought me here was the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States last year. Until then, I was totally apolitical. I didn't care about politics or economics. But I thought when (U.S. President George) Bush launched his revenge attack on Afghanistan that it was just like Pearl Harbor. What I mean to say is that he used the excuse of terrorism to launch a war. It was a war that was nothing short of atrocity," the bloodthirsty necrophiliac whose hardly averse to the atrocious tells Shukan Shincho, explaining his astounding conversion to pacifism.

Sagawa claims to have been influenced by an exhibition of photos of Afghan refugees.

"When I let loose the shot from a carbine rifle into that woman in Paris, I thought that life was something that could easily be taken. But having seen the refugees' photo exhibition, I've finally come to realize just how much people will fight for their lives," sick Sagawa tells Shukan Shincho. "I've made it the theme for the remainder of my years to study exactly what life is."

In the wake of his killing, Sagawa neither apologized, nor was he punished for what he did. Instead, the emergence in 1989 of pedophile killer and current Death Row inmate Tsutomu Miyazaki gave Sagawa the opportunity to enter the Japanese media as a commentator on killing.

"Murderers actually know more about the importance of life than any other people on Earth," Sagawa says. "At least based on my experience, I've got no other option than to believe that."

Sagawa claims he has tried to at least seek the forgiveness of his victim's family.

"I hand-wrote a letter in French that I had my father try and pass on to her parents, but they refused to accept it," he says, adding that it would be impossible for him to visit the Netherlands to express his contriteness. "On Nov. 5, my father died after a long battle with the effects of a stroke, my mother has disinherited me and my brother refuses to have anything to do with me. It's all I can do just to get enough for meals each day. And there's my diabetes, which I can hardly scrape up the money for treatment for."

Not surprisingly, there were considerable suspicions of Sagawa's motives for taking part in the peace demonstration.

"I have extreme doubts about how serious he was in taking part in the antiwar demonstration," one of the rally organizers tells Shukan Shincho. "He didn't listen to a word of the explanation about what we were protesting for. He just handed out pamphlets addressed to Prime Minister (Junichiro) Koizumi saying that he had been ostracized from society. Then he said he was going to the Diet Building, which was nowhere near the route the demonstration took. He was carrying a handwritten placard saying, 'People are all beautiful. People shouldn't kill people.'"

Shukan Shincho adds that Sagawa, perhaps because of the chill in the air on the cold December 1st morning of the rally, pulled out of the demonstration after accompanying it for little more than 100 meters. He sat down on a bench in Yoyogi Park and sneered at the homeless men nearby
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Postby Andocrates » Fri May 16, 2003 2:43 am

As disturbing as this is there are things like this, exploited loopholes in justice and bureaucracy, all over the world including America.

You are so quick to condem the Japanese people and nation that quite frankly that places you securly in the "bigot" camp. I bitch about Japan as much as the next guy, however there is a thin line between the quirks of the Japanese and outright hatred. Not sure you are there but you are very close.
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Postby Torigaa Fenikkusu » Fri May 16, 2003 5:05 am

yeah...lets not forgot O.J. Simpson...
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Postby GuyJean » Fri May 16, 2003 6:50 am

Andocrates wrote:You are so quick to condem the Japanese people and nation that quite frankly that places you securly in the "bigot" camp.
Yeah. Killing and eating raw meat is Japanese culture.. How dare you question culture. :wink:

Besides, he probably said he's sorry and bowed deeply, so no harm done.

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Postby cstaylor » Fri May 16, 2003 6:56 am

Once again, another idiot son of a rich man... :roll:
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Postby ramchop » Fri May 16, 2003 8:39 am

Waiwai. You're now getting outraged by a waiwai article? 8O
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Postby blackcat » Fri May 16, 2003 4:16 pm

the "japan basher" defence to the fore again.

I point out the inconsistency...thats what i hate ANDO.
have you seen this story on one of the many crime docos on TV cover this story :?: NO 90% of the time these detective stories cover foreign crime...never local(or rarely) So thats WHAT I HATE :!: not a nationality.

RAMCHOP: this is real dude, like it or not. wai wai or not. and as i said the only cannibal ever SET FREE.

TORI: i agree about OJ simpson, however that WAS covered by the worlds media.
next time ask a japanese person of anyone overseas if they know "ted bundy" and "issei sagawa" :wink:


I feel sorry for the victim and her family....this pig is alive and free and complaining :evil:

I would feel exactly the same way if the nationalities were reversed.

ask any japanese person if they agree with capitol punishment and most will say yes.
So why not for this man??
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Postby Big Booger » Fri May 16, 2003 4:38 pm

I think an eye for an eye is a very consistent way to handle violence.. let's get a panel together of hungry people and let them eat him :D

that might work..

kidding of course. Regardless of the loopholes, this kind of crap should never happen... He should be committed to a mental facility. And don't get me started on OJ.
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Postby Jack » Fri May 16, 2003 11:58 pm

Blackcat,

I am getting rather sick and tired of the whiners on this forum always blasting Japan and its rules and culture. If you think you are being discriminated against, get the fuck out of there. Every other country is perfect and Japan is the only place where it's fucked-up, right? What a loser...
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Postby blackcat » Sat May 17, 2003 12:12 am

why dont you address the posts content??????

too difficult for you :?: embarrasing :oops:

i dont care what you think. you can defend a murderer if you like, good job. sorry to upset your sensitive little wa.
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Postby Andocrates » Sat May 17, 2003 2:12 am

First off, waiwai is what it is - it's just like the national enquirer, or the sun in england or a Hustler magazine. It's entertainment not news.

Do you remember that poor Japanese exchange student who was shot and killed when he walked up and knocked on someones door in Louisiana, the homeowner killed that 17 year old boy because the boy didn't know the english word "Freeze." Nothing ever happened to that homeowner, it was ruled justifiable homicide although the boy never tried to enter the home.

There are millions of Japanese people as disgusted at this as you are, but you are getting your information from waiwai who got it from some equally sleezy source.

Are you suggesting the Japanese think it's OK to eat gaijin? Japan's prisons are full - OF JAPANESE! You're whole angle was baseless from the start. And was just Japan bashing.
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Postby blackcat » Sat May 17, 2003 2:18 pm

you assume to quickly.

I read about this in a book years ago, I dont get my info from wai wai,not that that makes reality any less true!

the book was about serial killers worldwide.

I wasnt japan bashing..thats a bullshit term anyway.
ever heard of Kiwi bashing, germany bashing????
when someone points out some truths not wanting to be heard youre a JB!! sure, stick your head back in the sand.

I remember about the boy shot, and i thought it was madness too :roll:

I dont suggest that all japanese think its ok to eat gaijin idiot!! :roll:
but the way "gaijin crime" is so heavily exagerated in japan with this sort on the losse is sickening.
I know first hand of people being attacked by japanese...the offenders havent been charged! when its the other way around its in the papers!!

just some balance please! and some honesty in the media :idea:
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Postby cstaylor » Sun May 18, 2003 2:40 am

I'm going to stick my foot out here... but I sometimes get the feeling that apologists for poor behavior are hoping to score points with their adopted country... :?
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Postby Andocrates » Sun May 18, 2003 4:03 am

O.K. I will arise to that challenge, although I fear you are my better in cerebral arguments.

Point A: There is a lot about the Japanese that piss me off, I fear they are only inches from slipping off the social ladder to become the next Laos.

However, we should point out those things, i.e. they are rude, they have taking the art of being 2 faced to an artform. No matter how fluent you are in Japanese will try and stumble along in English utill you've missed your bus, train, date with a cute girl.

They have questionable morals by western standards, they do indeed have a real distrust of outsiders, etc.

However this particular case is very different because of the many years that passed, the fact that he WAS arrested in France who did not want to house this young man for the rest of his life so they sent him to Japan where they tried to prosecute him but were unable to due to some legal loopholes (and the vast family money for his defense, see OJ)

Because he became a sort of freak show on Japanese TV didn't make him loved, he was still despised but that kind of shock value works in any culture (see any number of American Talk shows)

Now here 23 years later comes some guy claiming he got off scot free because he killed a gaijin, which I say is bullshit.
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Postby cstaylor » Sun May 18, 2003 4:47 am

Andocrates wrote:O.K. I will arise to that challenge, although I fear you are my better in cerebral arguments

Notice that I carefully left off the word "Japanese" in my statement. ;)
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Postby blackcat » Sun May 18, 2003 1:56 pm

we may agree to disagree, but yes in this case he was arrested in france, however the influential father with loads of cash and and a 2 governments inabilty to put him away means he did get off(maybe not scott, but FREE).

The french wanted to wash their hands,but where was the concern by the japanese that this guy would move into your "mansion"after what he had done :?:
This was a henious crime, not because the victim was not japanese but because it was a sick, premeditated crime...sorry but no talk show anywhere i know of made a cannibal into a celebrity.(a real,free one anyway).there is something VERY wrong with that.

the fact many despised him isnt the point either! the point is his was allowed to go free and no one cared!! however there were protests DEMANDING the U.S. hand over an alleged rapist. although i agree they should hand him over... but the clear 2 faced attitude is unbelievable 8O

but my point is as i have said before.
any slight crime commited bya foreigner in japan is under the microscope :oops: and i mean slight. foreigners can be held in custody for nearly a month without formal charge for not presenting our alien card on demand :?

I know a guy who rode a gomi bicycle was locked up overnight and verbaly abused but 5 cops for 2 hours :evil:

I know a foreign guy whose hand was cut to pieces in the middle of the day, the guy that did it was never charged(even though he confessed :?: )
you guess the nationality of the attacker :wink:

So I`m the bad guy for wanting a world with some justice based on ACTIONS not nationality :?: I `m a "japan Basher" a bullshit excuse term for avoiding any negatives :?:

anyway i have my opinions, you have yours fair enough. I dont know about you though. I dont want him moving into my "aparto" block 8O
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Postby GuyJean » Sun May 18, 2003 1:59 pm

Jack wrote:I am getting rather sick and tired of the whiners on this forum always blasting Japan and its rules and culture.

Um. I believe there's a reason for the forum actually being called "Fucked Gaijin": Most of us are virtual prisoners of Japan, albeit of our own making or choice, and COMPLETELY powerless to change laws, politicians, or tax systems.. IMO
Jack wrote:If you think you are being discriminated against, get the fuck out of there.

If you're "tired of the whiners", "get the fuck out of here".

I agree that NO country is perfect. But Japan does a mighty fine job of covering up it's flaws to APPEAR near perfect. Packaging is more important than the package..

About the 'poor Japanese boy' being shot in the Sates; I saw a US new program about it, with a very different view - the boy continued to knock with Holloween mask on. When no one answered, he went over the side of the porch, and peered over the fence.. with mask on..

I'm not sure which version I believe, but why was he alone? Probably, somewhere in the middle is the truth.

And you guys are comparing what could possibly be considered an accidental shooting due to mistaken identity to cannibalism? Did the US family eat the boy, or something?

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Postby devicenull » Sun May 18, 2003 10:14 pm

GuyJean wrote:
And you guys are comparing what could possibly be considered an accidental shooting due to mistaken identity to cannibalism? Did the US family eat the boy, or something?

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Postby Andocrates » Sun May 18, 2003 11:07 pm

The boy in question wasn't alone it was halloween night and they were trying to find a party. They had the wrong house and the Japanese boy was stupid enough to knock on some rednecks door and got killed for his mistake.

The whole state rallied behind this "poor homeowner" I don't know about you but I generally don't answer my door with a gun. If I'm concerned I stay inside and talk through the door or call the police, I don't come out shooting like Clint Eastwood.
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Postby GuyJean » Sun May 18, 2003 11:55 pm

Andocrates wrote:They had the wrong house and the Japanese boy was stupid enough to knock on some rednecks door and got killed for his mistake.

As they conveniently say in Japan, "Shoganai"..

No, really I think it probably WAS an Asian hating, trigger-happy redneck.. But what I heard by the US propaganda machine was a VERY diffferent story than what the Japanese media portrayed, which is usually 'we' victim, 'they' chotto hen. Also, remember that the right to protect ones home and family goes a long way in the States.

See, what he should've of done is cut off the boys head, display it at a local school yard, then eat the body. After a month or so, say sorry, cry a little bit, making sure snot's dripping out his nose, then bow on TV.. All is forgiven.
Andocrates wrote:I don't know about you but I generally don't answer my door with a gun.

It depends on what's been happening in the neighborhood.. I don't know about you, but I generally trust my own judgement more than the Japanese police... But I'm a racist gaijin.

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Postby Torigaa Fenikkusu » Mon May 19, 2003 5:03 am

Big Booger wrote:I think an eye for an eye is a very consistent way to handle violence.. let's get a panel together of hungry people and let them eat him :D


well acctually, durring an interview with him, he said he has a sexual fetish of eating/and being eatin, and he says that one day he hopes to be eaten by someone/somthing

so that wouldnt be much of a punishment for him.. heh
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Postby ramchop » Mon May 19, 2003 9:19 am

blackcat wrote:wallowed to go free and no one cared!! however there were protests DEMANDING the U.S. hand over an alleged rapist. although i agree they should hand him over... but the clear 2 faced attitude is unbelievable 8O


That's a bit of a different situation isn't it? Victim = Japanese, Attacker = US, protesters = Japanese. Where were the protesting French in this case?

You've done the reading, I'd be interested to hear more about the legal loopholes. It does happen everywhere. I remember a certain case where a French murdering terrorist was handed over, spent a couple of years in "prison" on an island holiday resort then returned home to receive a medal.

23 years is a long time. Were you here when he first returned? Was there outrage in Japan back then? In most countries he'd be out of prison by now anyway.
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Postby blackcat » Tue May 20, 2003 3:34 pm

"In most countries he'd be out of prison by now anyway."

well not so, as this book mentioned he is the only killer (cannibal) that has been set free anywhere (not including the japanese soldiers for cannabilizing NZ/Aust prisoners near the end of WW2, they were set free also :evil: )

OJ and others have been mentioned but its oranges vs apples, I`m not sure of all the legal loopholes, but suffice to say his father was rich, the victim not japanese, so not a lot of motivation to charge him :?: .

Even though he confessed 8O I thought thats all they needed :idea:
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Postby ramchop » Tue May 20, 2003 3:47 pm

blackcat wrote:OJ and others have been mentioned but its oranges vs apples, I`m not sure of all the legal loopholes, but suffice to say his father was rich, the victim not japanese, so not a lot of motivation to charge him :?:


Seems to me that if you wanted to see justice done you'd never send anyone back to their home country.

There are the odd exceptions. There was this one guy in NZ who knowingly infected a group of women with HIV. The options, keep him in a NZ prison or deport him back to Africa where he'd die without the medical treatment that he'd get in a "first world" prison.

But in most instances, the prisoner will get treated better at home.

This guy should never have been let out of France. The Japanese govt should never have got involved. And the public in both countries should have kicked up a stink. Didn't happen, but it really is old news now.
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Postby silver_blue » Tue May 20, 2003 5:26 pm

GuyJean wrote:
No, really I think it probably WAS an Asian hating, trigger-happy redneck.. But what I heard by the US propaganda machine was a VERY diffferent story than what the Japanese media portrayed, which is usually 'we' victim, 'they' chotto hen. Also, remember that the right to protect ones home and family goes a long way in the States.


Isn't that pretty much the same in any country though? I know that here in the UK whenever a British citizen commits a crime abroad, the British tabloid press is almost always straight on the case about the "unfair" punishment they'll receive abroad, and how the trial wasn't fair, etc, etc.

That's just a 'them' and 'us' feeling which exists everywhere.
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Postby blackcat » Wed May 21, 2003 11:29 pm

I agree" That's just a 'them' and 'us' feeling which exists everywhere"

France should have kept him, or Japan should have locked him up.TRUE

Old newsbut relevant today very much by the way things are still happening here...also silver, the extreme in which this happens in japan is somewhat shocking.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:48 am

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scotsman.com / JULIAN RYALL IN TOKYO / Sun 18 Jul 2004
UNDER five feet tall and with a head too big for his body, Issei Sagawa makes the most unlikely of cannibals. Stepping inside his apartment, where images of Snow White and Diana, Princess of Wales, are juxtaposed with his own explicit pastel drawings and an extensive collection of pornography, offers a better insight into his twisted mind.
He comes close to tears twice during the two hours it takes to show me his pictures of naked women with slices taken out of their buttocks and thighs. Sagawa, 55, claims that he is lonely and no longer able to earn a living from the notoriety he has dined out on for the past three decades. ...
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Postby Maths Dude » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:31 am

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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:22 am

Maths Dude wrote:Another Update, 60 Minutes 2005

Long post.


And what is the url for this "long post"?

Also please note the FG Forum guideline concerning "long" posts. A full quote is possible if it's a special situation (like the Gomiyuri Shimbun or the Wall Street Journal) but in general we shouldn't totally rip off copyrighted material.

Hey, I ain't trying to be your net-nanny: I'm just trying to keep the copyright-wolves at bay.

4. Generally, you should try not to post full stories unless they are very short. Try to post a few juicy quotes or the core of the article and then a link to the original site.

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Postby dingosatemybaby » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:43 am

Dingo didn't know until just recently that Japan's infamous Kannibal Killer (tm) inspired Mick Jagger to write "Too Much Blood" for one of the Stones' (instantly forgettable) albums in the 80s. The ol' colostomy rockers should've dedicated that one to their Japanese fans when they last toured here in 2003.
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