Gov Blinky Ishihara skipped paying J pension 8yrs

[Taro Toporific]

Ishihara also skipped pension premiums
Friday, May 14, 2004 at 14:00 JST / japantoday
TOKYO — Tokyo Gov Shintaro Ishihara failed to pay mandatory national pension premiums for eight years....

[DJEB]

Send his punk ass to prison and let his own boys give him the medicine that he so readily prescribes for others. Let him enjoy seiza in a 2X2m cell for 10 hours a day. Of course, he will insist on this treatment, won't he. I mean, surely he's not a hypocrite. When he signs a confession admitting that he is and always has been a lying sack-of-shite, then let him out. [After he pays his taxes, of course. He should have enough money from the sales of his best seller, The Japan that can blame foreigners for the crimes commited by its own citizens (most of whom are my own Yak buddies) by Blinky Ishihara.]

[GuyJean]

The Japan that can blame foreigners for the crimes commited by its own citizens (most of whom are my own Yak buddies) by Blinky Ishihara.]

Where can I get this book?.. Oh, wait.. We're living it..

GJ

[cstaylor]

[GomiGirl]

Plus, I heard he's working on a new book right now: "The Japan that said No to Nanking says No to Nenkin".

Good one Mr Taylor!!

[Captain Japan]

[kamome]

Here's one thing I don't quite understand in this mess: How is missing paying a real big deal other than for gov PR?

And here's another: by law I have sign up for this horseshit pension system. The company takes it out of my salary by the month. So wouldn't these politicos be under the same/similar system? ...but how do these assholes in the gov not get it taken out of their pay directly?

It's all about the fat cats in government getting preferential treatment over the masses. There was a big deal made when people found out that these guys were getting some kind of preferential housing arrangement.

The law DOES say that Japanese residents are required to pay into the pension system; there even are penalty provisions for people who don't pay. The reality is that if you are paid offshore, they have no way of tracking that, and the law generally is not enforced very well. But if everyone is theoretically bound by law to pay into the system, and the very people who made the law are operating above it, it makes perfect sense for people to be resentful and for it to become big news.

[canman]

That politicians here are not considered public servants but some kind of independant businessness person. So when they leave their companies or whatever to become politicians/crooks, they are responsible for making their own pension payments. What kills me is that they can only be made pay two years prior payments, not the years they missed. What a great deal, miss 18 years but only get charge for two.
Also is it just me, or has the media completely nailed Mr. Kan to the cross for missing only ten months while others from LDP are getting off with no problems?

[cstaylor]

Also is it just me, or has the media completely nailed Mr. Kan to the cross for missing only ten months while others from LDP are getting off with no problems?

What do you expect from a one-party oligarchy and a professional opposition?

[Taro Toporific]

When/if the LDP releases their payment histories, who wants to bet that Koizumi missed a few?

How 'bout Koizumi missing a few years ....6 years?

Koizumi Skipped Pension Payments for Six Years, Spokesman SaysMay 14 (Bloomberg) -- Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi missed some mandatory state pension payments for more than six years, .... His opposition counterpart, Naoto Kan, quit his post as leader of the Democratic Party of Japan this week after admitting he missed 10 months of payments in 1996.

[AssKissinger]

They got it all wrong.

They should boot-out the dumbasses who actually do pay that shit.

[AssKissinger]

More info here

Will Koizumi step down?

Is it illegal not to pay?

The prime minister, who skipped payments for a total of about 6 1/2 years, said he had no intention of resigning as he had opted out of the system at a time when he was not required to join.


"If I didn't have to join the system, how can they be called missed payments?" Koizumi asked in a meeting with reporters. "I paid all my dues when it was compulsory

Japanese law requires citizens to pay into the state-run pension system, but failing to do so isn't a criminal offense.

I guess it's kind of like NHK. I don't pay either, if anybody's wondering. Yall aren't gonna vote me off FG are you?

Koizumi said he thought his lapse highlighted the system's complexity and its need for reform, although he admitted the public would probably find his explanation less than satisfactory

Nice spin. It's actually a good thing he didn't pay.

The pension disclosure was overshadowed on Friday by the announcement that Koizumi would travel to North Korea next week for a summit with leader Kim Jong Il.

Maybe he wants to ask Lil' Kim how he gets away with so much crap over there.

An independent tally by public broadcaster NHK showed at least 50 LDP lawmakers had missed some payments

They don't pay NHK either??? Oh the shame.

[Captain Japan]

When/if the LDP releases their payment histories, who wants to bet that Koizumi missed a few?

How 'bout Koizumi missing a few years ....6 years?

Koizumi Skipped Pension Payments for Six Years, Spokesman SaysMay 14 (Bloomberg) -- Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi missed some mandatory state pension payments for more than six years, .... His opposition counterpart, Naoto Kan, quit his post as leader of the Democratic Party of Japan this week after admitting he missed 10 months of payments in 1996.

Told ya so. What a bunch of fucking bums.

[Captain Japan]

[quote="kamome"]The law DOES say that Japanese residents are required to pay into the pension system]

But again, they are only (on the surface and with all things being equal) harming themeselves by not paying, right? The true reason then for the outrage is that everyone else (I hope) is paying into this broken system, a system that when it goes bust will pay everyone out a grand total equivalent of a lump of cottage cheese each month upon retirement. Everyone knows this and when these idiots miss paying they are conveniently avoiding tossing their money down the sewer like everyone else silently does. That is the real issue and it is something people (and the media) are failing to mention.

[kamome]

But again, they are only (on the surface and with all things being equal) harming themeselves by not paying, right? The true reason then for the outrage is that everyone else (I hope) is paying into this broken system, a system that when it goes bust will pay everyone out a grand total equivalent of a lump of cottage cheese each month upon retirement. Everyone knows this and when these idiots miss paying they are conveniently avoiding tossing their money down the sewer like everyone else silently does. That is the real issue and it is something people (and the media) are failing to mention.

We're each describing the same issue in different ways. Earlier, I pointed out the "special treatment" problem--that the fat cats in government were getting special treatment by not having to obey the very law they created. We all know that the Japanese hate it when someone gets special treatment that they are not otherwise entitled to. And they will circulate rumors and stab someone in the back in order to tear that person back down.

As you pointed out, the other facet of the problem is the cash savings themselves. The cash savings from not paying into that blackhole of a government-run pension system could be invested in something more likely to pay a lucrative dividend in the future. These politicians were able to do that for years and make money off of it, while the masses never got such a benefit.

[Taro Toporific]

[DJEB]

He might as well just wear a sign saying, "This is my attempt to represent hair."