Table saws

[Grumpy Gramps]

For knives and scissors I sometimes use just marking tape for a sheath, if I think I need one. Works like a charm, but is not exactly pretty

[Coligny]

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Russel, you good or we need to send you one ?

[Yokohammer]

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Russel, you good or we need to send you one ?

I know you like showing off, but is it really necessary to take photos while standing on your head?

And yep ... there they are ...

[Coligny]

Betwen my iphone who crash and reboot everytime I look at it sideways, especially when I try to take pictures and the fact that my now nearly completely fucked left knee refuse to support any weight while folding this shot is borderline of a miracle.

Sorry if the aesthetical quality is not up to your worldwide valued and renowned australiunz standards...

[Yokohammer]

Sorry if the aesthetical quality is not up to your worldwide valued and renowned australiunz standards...

Us Aussies are known for spending most our lives upside-down, so it can't be that.

[Coligny]

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[Russell]

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Russel, you good or we need to send you one ?

I did not have the chance to visit any home centers after Sunday, because I am kind of busy with the job right now.

But I will definitely have a look the next time I visit one.

Thanks anyways, but no need to send me anything for the time being, because that would take away my excuse to make my round of home center visits...

[Russell]

I'm just back from a few home centers, but couldn't find them. Maybe I didn't look on the right shelves.

How are these things called in Japanese?

I think this is the one I have: SK11 カンナ刃・ノミ刃研ぎガイド

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At Viva Home they're in the same place as the water stones, etc.

I did a round of 6 home centers yesterday, and Konan Pro had this one. Surprisingly, the other 5 didn't.

All my chisels seem to fit, except 2 inherited from grandpa, because they have tapered blades. I'll have to make a jig for that to use it with this guide.

Flattening stones were more common, though not all home centers had them. I bought two different ones: one can never have enough of a good thing...

[Yokohammer]

I did a round of 6 home centers yesterday, and Konan Pro had this one. Surprisingly, the other 5 didn't.

All my chisels seem to fit, except 2 inherited from grandpa, because they have tapered blades. I'll have to make a jig for that to use it with this guide.

Flattening stones were more common, though not all home centers had them. I bought two different ones: one can never have enough of a good thing...

Glad you found something!

But you must be living in a sharpening-challenged area or something, because not only do they have them at Viva Home, but I checked at my very local Daishin yesterday and they have them there too. 100% success rate thus far.

No matter. You have one now and that's really all that matters.

[Russell]

I did a round of 6 home centers yesterday, and Konan Pro had this one. Surprisingly, the other 5 didn't.

All my chisels seem to fit, except 2 inherited from grandpa, because they have tapered blades. I'll have to make a jig for that to use it with this guide.

Flattening stones were more common, though not all home centers had them. I bought two different ones: one can never have enough of a good thing...

Glad you found something!

But you must be living in a sharpening-challenged area or something, because not only do they have them at Viva Home, but I checked at my very local Daishin yesterday and they have them there too. 100% success rate thus far.

Or Kansai is full of expert sharpeners who don't need such tools...

And before I forget: many thanks to all on this forum who advised me!

[Coligny]

Sometimes... The shelving make no sense...
Reflective tape have disappeared from my local kahma but i can now find easily the plasti dip... (Both have always been there)
It depend of the moronic level of the shop assistant you get. I now only deal with the pair that I know because 1- they understand my rather cinematic description of issues and 2- don't go straight to the "we japs don't do/have that"

Answer that I got for:

Those little bug killer bottle that you put with the rice
Neon light tube for emergency exit signs (ok, circa 1970, but it's not like if they change these kind of standards)
Drywall filler paste, either me bitch fucked the translation on purpose or the oyaji was already braindead. Because between the dry mix, the small repair bucket, the fiberglass repair kits or the bulk version you could have a small shop only selling these and matching tinting and texturing powders...
Front driveshafts... (Audi, don't ask... Even circling on the blueprint the parts I wanted replaced they switched the rubber boots but not the driveshafts universal couplings)

[Russell]

Speaking of shop assistants, quite a few did not know what a router or trimmer was, let alone a router bit.

That is the minimum knowledge they should have when working in the tool department of a home center.

Ah, and now I suddenly started to feel the need for a router table. I will skip the one of StaxTools, but this one is irresistible. Yep, only in Hammer's favorite shop...

[Yokohammer]

Ah, and now I suddenly started to feel the need for a router table. I will skip the one of StaxTools, but this one is irresistible. Yep, only in Hammer's favorite shop...

Ah yes, that "need" feeling. I know it well.

That shop is making a fortune off me.

Anyway yes. I agree, you definitely "need" a router table. If you're wondering what else you might "need" feel free to ask.

By the way, "Kerv" seems to be their house brand that they're probably having made in a sweatshop somewhere, but it really does seem to be decent stuff. If you're prepared to waste too much time poking around on the net you can sometimes find the same items under different brands. Their Kerv lathe is an example: it has relatives in the UK, Australia, and the US, I think it was. Probably made in the Middle Kingdom.

And another BTW, I did some poking around and found that they are the official Japan distributors for Veritas planes and stuff, so they do seem to have some credibility.

[Russell]

Ah, and now I suddenly started to feel the need for a router table. I will skip the one of StaxTools, but this one is irresistible. Yep, only in Hammer's favorite shop...

Ah yes, that "need" feeling. I know it well.

That shop is making a fortune off me.

Anyway yes. I agree, you definitely "need" a router table. If you're wondering what else you might "need" feel free to ask.

By the way, "Kerv" seems to be their house brand that they're probably having made in a sweatshop somewhere, but it really does seem to be decent stuff. If you're prepared to waste too much time poking around on the net you can sometimes find the same items under different brands. Their Kerv lathe is an example: it has relatives in the UK, Australia, and the US, I think it was. Probably made in the Middle Kingdom.

And another BTW, I did some poking around and found that they are the official Japan distributors for Veritas planes and stuff, so they do seem to have some credibility.

You already predicted in a previous post that I would "need" a router table, so you have some credibility there.

But I really need a router table, and the choice is making one and later end up buying one anyway, or buying one right away. The reason for the sudden "need" is that I plan to make attachable acrylic plates to some of my windows for insulation reasons, and for that I need to carve out a few more mm from some L-shaped stock that I purchased for the side framing.

So, there you have it. I won't use my router only for big stock, but also for smaller.

Any recommendations for router bits? I do not know what the good brands are in Japan, but I mostly see the cheaper bits of 500 to 1000 Yen each in the home centers. Is it correct to assume that they won't last long?

Off corporation: they appear to have some credibility. Their prices tend to bit higher than in other shops, but they have many items exclusively available from them.

[Yokohammer]

But I really need a router table, and the choice is making one and later end up buying one anyway, or buying one right away. The reason for the sudden "need" is that I plan to make attachable acrylic plates to some of my windows for insulation reasons, and for that I need to carve out a few more mm from some L-shaped stock that I purchased for the side framing.

OK, you have my full attention. This is an idea that has been floating around in my head as well (great minds think alike, as they say), but I haven't got down to the design particulars yet, so I'm very interested to see what yours are.

Any recommendations for router bits? I do not know what the good brands are in Japan, but I mostly see the cheaper bits of 500 to 1000 Yen each in the home centers. Is it correct to assume that they won't last long?

I don't expect these things to last forever anyway, so I just buy whatever's on the local home center shelf as I need it. But I don't get a huge amount of use out of my router or trimmer anyway (that might change), so nothing has worn out thus far. But coincidentally right now I do need to pick up a straight trimmer bit with bearing. So no, sorry, I can't recommend a brand, but carbide tipped seems to be the norm these days, and that should give you plenty of use.

[Russell]

But I really need a router table, and the choice is making one and later end up buying one anyway, or buying one right away. The reason for the sudden "need" is that I plan to make attachable acrylic plates to some of my windows for insulation reasons, and for that I need to carve out a few more mm from some L-shaped stock that I purchased for the side framing.

OK, you have my full attention. This is an idea that has been floating around in my head as well (great minds think alike, as they say), but I haven't got down to the design particulars yet, so I'm very interested to see what yours are.

That looks like an opportunity for a new thread (or should I post it to our tinkering thread?). I will post some pics of the windows, as well as design ideas later on.

Any recommendations for router bits? I do not know what the good brands are in Japan, but I mostly see the cheaper bits of 500 to 1000 Yen each in the home centers. Is it correct to assume that they won't last long?

I don't expect these things to last forever anyway, so I just buy whatever's on the local home center shelf as I need it. But I don't get a huge amount of use out of my router or trimmer anyway (that might change), so nothing has worn out thus far. But coincidentally right now I do need to pick up a straight trimmer bit with bearing. So no, sorry, I can't recommend a brand, but carbide tipped seems to be the norm these days, and that should give you plenty of use.

Do you mean that the bits available at home centers are all carbide tipped?

[Yokohammer]

That looks like an opportunity for a new thread (or should I post it to our tinkering thread?). I will post some pics of the windows, as well as design ideas later on.

Ideally it'd be a new thread in our new Tinkering sub-forum ... which hasn't happened yet (maybe I should just revive the café specifically and only for tinkering stuff). But for the time being I guess the Tinkering thread would be the place. There are exactly four people (maybe five on a busy day) who might be interested.

Do you mean that the bits available at home centers are all carbide tipped?

I daren't say "all," but I'd venture a guess that the ones that seem to have tips attached to a cast body are carbide (often the body is a color like red or yellow). It might say something like "超硬" on the package somewhere ("超硬合金" usually means cemented carbide) . Bits that look like one piece of steel are probably HSS.

[Coligny]

They sell twin panning kit, quite cheap, it put another set of windows inside the existing window frame.


Usually cheaper than the cost of diy raw material...

[Yokohammer]

They sell twin panning kit, quite cheap, it put another set of windows inside the existing window frame.

Usually cheaper than the cost of diy raw material...

I've seen those. Probably a good option if you have standard size windows and don't mind if things aren't exactly pretty. Some situations just demand a more elegant solution though.

[Coligny]

They sell twin panning kit, quite cheap, it put another set of windows inside the existing window frame.

Usually cheaper than the cost of diy raw material...

I've seen those. Probably a good option if you have standard size windows and don't mind if things aren't exactly pretty. Some situations just demand a more elegant solution though.

We are talking about Russell... Who got his first router last month, not Norm Abrams or Diresta...

[Yokohammer]

We are talking about Russell... Who got his first router last month, not Norm Abrams or Diresta...

One should never underestimate the capabilities of the creative Netherlander. Those guys got windmills!

[Grumpy Gramps]

The name of the disease is GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) and there is no cure

I bought a cheapo router bit set off Amazon ~two years ago, this one (oops, price has gone up a little). So I kind of have a bit for every occasion. The ones that broke - which are the ones that I use most - I replaced with better quality ones, and the ones I rarely use are there, when I think I need them and otherwise don't eat any hay; and the case is handy.

[Russell]

We are talking about Russell... Who got his first router last month, not Norm Abrams or Diresta...

One should never underestimate the capabilities of the creative Netherlander. Those guys got windmills!

OK, this reads like a challenge! (and don't forget we Dutch put fingers in dikes)

I did not yet see the kit to insert a second window inside a window frame in any home center, but that may be because I did not look for it. Anyway, I do not consider this option for the following reasons:

1. The Missus: quite resistant to change in the house, especially when it involves making holes in walls, etc. I get away with things when they end up looking nice, so that's basically the only option I have. The second window should be unnoticeable in principle, whether it is attached or not. So no obvious attachments to keep it in place are allowed.
2. The construction of the windows. We have windows that are opened by turning a handle around a number of times. Very convenient, because I do not need to remove the mosquito nets to open and close them, but this handle is quite in the way. It does not stick out from the window frame, but only just, so putting a second window recessed in the main window frame would cause the handle to touch and interfere with the second window's (acrylic) glass. And, I do not think my windows are standard format, having a Sekisui house and all that.
3. Esthetic reasons, like Hammer says. A frame inside a frame does not look very good.

So what is the design I have in mind?

First of all, the second frame should cover the main frame. That's why I bought L-shaped stock (SLF-39D-M). However, its width is just a few mm short, which can be corrected by routing away those mm's from the inside of the L. The depth is also one mm or so short, so the other inside of the L also needs some routing. And I want to make a groove at the inside of the L, into which my acrylic glass fits. Understand why I "need" a router table?

Second of all, the second frame will be attached by strong magnets against the dry wall. Facing the magnets will be steel screws inserted into the wall, which will be covered by wall paper. Yes sirree, that's 1.51 kg-equivalent attractive force times 4 magnets, which makes 6 kg-equivalent pulling the frame against the wall. The magnets will be glued into holes at the back side of the frame, which will be made by my router. Alternatively, I could make attachments at the top of the second frame that hook into holes at the top of the main frame, and only use magnets at the bottom. I do not know yet what construction would be practical (in terms of use as well as fabrication) for this hooking attachment. The advantage of the hooking construction is that there is no risk that it comes down under most circumstances.

No pics yet of my windows, but if required I will post.

[Coligny]

If only me bitch was more cooperative with clearing the trash-junk...
I have carte blanche for any modification... And she knows that my brain make me do these things only past 21:30 and pull allnighters like a bad student...
(Like Batman... Sleep better during the day...but morning until 11:30 I can't find my ass with 2 hands and a flashlight...)

[Coligny]

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[Yokohammer]

... No pics yet of my windows, but if required I will post.

I kinda sorta get what you're saying, but it is pretty hard to visualise so yeah, a pic or two would reduce the burden on the poor old imagination.

But take your time. I have serious time issues* for the next couple of weeks so I won't be able to fully appreciate your crafty plan anyway. I am very interested though, so do keep us posted please.

* I want to know what arsehole invented "work" and then supplemented it with "busy."

[Yokohammer]

Coligny,

Thanks for the pics.

I haven't seen "honeycomb carbonate" ones like those before. I've seen similar types made with glass (or maybe it was acrylic). Those honeycomb panes might be OK if you just need light, but not so much if you want to be able to see through your windows too. Still, I bet they're light and easy to install. Cheap too! Definitely a cut above pasting bubble wrap to your windows (a common approach it seems ... then even sell "bubble wrap for windows" ).

[Russell]

Coligny, I have never seen those screen windows, but I will jack up my attention span on my next visit to a home center. For my windows they are unlikely a solution, since my inner frame sizes are almost all 124 cm high (inside frame), with widths varying between 49 cm, 74 cm, 124 cm, etc. I must say that they look better than expected, and their prices are very competitive. The glass is probably ribbed to add some strength to it without the need to increase thickness.

I also have sliding doors in my living room and my guest room, and for those it may be a good solution. I will check out their sizes.

[Russell]

Hammer, I will post some pics.

This is not a fast track project, due to time issues, but I do it little by little. First I need this router table.

[Coligny]

all is plastic. W profile top and bottom.
Transparent plastic with sandwiched air gap for the window and matching pvc framing.
the windows are super light and easy to slide up/out for warmer seasons.
also all being light plastic they seems really easy to cut down to proper size if needed.

Hammer.... &*^%$$%... I have bubblewrap... and its better than harble freezing... not in my bedroom though as it would disable feline natural TV...
(also... the plastic collapse under sun UV...)