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[Russell]

So, that's how tey make notepads...

Toilet paper.

I suspect it is too thin for that.

One would need a nail clipper with that thin toilet paper.

[Coligny]

So, that's how tey make notepads...

Toilet paper.

I suspect it is too thin for that.

One would need a nail clipper with that thin toilet paper.

I dun't get the nail clipper...

Also you guys seems made out of muney... If I want to use 2 ply TP I have to drive down to the local yamada denki to take a dump. The bunker is only fielded with single ply coreless recycled TP
The good thing being there is no cardboard toob to discard... And the roll last for month even when the cats starts playing return of the mummy...
The bad thing... Well almost everything else that you'd expect would make using TP a good experience ain't there...

[Russell]

So, that's how tey make notepads...

Toilet paper.

I suspect it is too thin for that.

One would need a nail clipper with that thin toilet paper.

I dun't get the nail clipper...

If toilet paper is too thin, you may afterwards want to clean your [...fill in right answer here...]

[Russell]

The plane I gave to my son is a 50 mm, and I just saw that its blade has been pretty much abused. I suspect he tried to hammer it back when it was too far out.

OK, that was a nice little evening, straitening and sharpening that blade again.

Gave it back to my son, with the request to borrow it from him sometime...

[Coligny]

So, that's how tey make notepads...

Toilet paper.

I suspect it is too thin for that.

One would need a nail clipper with that thin toilet paper.

I dun't get the nail clipper...

If toilet paper is too thin, you may afterwards want to clean your [...fill in right answer here...]

Nevar heard of those ?

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[Yokohammer]

The plane I gave to my son is a 50 mm, and I just saw that its blade has been pretty much abused. I suspect he tried to hammer it back when it was too far out.

OK, that was a nice little evening, straitening and sharpening that blade again.

Gave it back to my son, with the request to borrow it from him sometime...

Well good for you!
I assume you also explained how to adjust the blade without hammering on the edge?
While you were at it, did you try setting it up and planing a bit of scrap wood?

All this plane discussion has got me fired up to do a bit more restoration work. I mentioned that I bought a plane for 5 dollars at a thrift shop in Melbourne a few years back (quite a few years back). Well, I actually bought two beat up old #4s for that 5 dollars, with the thought that I could combine parts from both to make one good plane and maybe have a spare blade and other spare parts. I got as far as putting together one usable plane, but now looking at the situation I think I can probably rebuild the other one as well. It'll require a lot more work because I'll need to remake a part that's broken (the cap iron lever is missing), but I think I can do it, and it would be a worthwhile project because of the scarcity of such items in this part of the world.

Now all I need is time ...

[Russell]

The plane I gave to my son is a 50 mm, and I just saw that its blade has been pretty much abused. I suspect he tried to hammer it back when it was too far out.

OK, that was a nice little evening, straitening and sharpening that blade again.

Gave it back to my son, with the request to borrow it from him sometime...

Well good for you!
I assume you also explained how to adjust the blade without hammering on the edge?
While you were at it, did you try setting it up and planing a bit of scrap wood?

Yes, I explained it to him.

And I did plane a scrap of wood. However, my shavings were only half the width of the knife, which suggests that the knife's sides are a bit recessed. That is probably not too much of a problem for the application I have in mind, such as finishing up edges.

[Yokohammer]

Yes, I explained it to him.

And I did plane a scrap of wood. However, my shavings were only half the width of the knife, which suggests that the knife's sides are a bit recessed. That is probably not too much of a problem for the application I have in mind, such as finishing up edges.

I think the cut width for a Japanese style plane is supposed to be narrower than the blade, to prevent the corners from digging in. So that's fine, but I think it should be more like three quarters of the blade width. But as you say, that's really not a problem and it is really a matter of personal adjustment. The cutting edge is probably slightly rounded in your case, which might be a result of whatever method you used to grind the blade square before sharpening it.

If you're (or anyone else is) interested in refining your sharpening skills, here's a good and pretty thorough book on the subject:

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The author is Thomas Lie-Nielsen of Lie-Nielsen plane fame, but the book covers just about any tool you're likely to have in your workshop. I have this in my collection of Taunton woodworking books ... they're quite good to have around for reference.

[Coligny]

For sharpening, like for sanding and bodywork. a video is worth 4 brasiliuns books...

[Russell]

Yes, I explained it to him.

And I did plane a scrap of wood. However, my shavings were only half the width of the knife, which suggests that the knife's sides are a bit recessed. That is probably not too much of a problem for the application I have in mind, such as finishing up edges.

I think the cut width for a Japanese style plane is supposed to be narrower than the blade, to prevent the corners from digging in. So that's fine, but I think it should be more like three quarters of the blade width. But as you say, that's really not a problem and it is really a matter of personal adjustment. The cutting edge is probably slightly rounded in your case, which might be a result of whatever method you used to grind the blade square before sharpening it.

If you're (or anyone else is) interested in refining your sharpening skills, here's a good and pretty thorough book on the subject:

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The author is Thomas Lie-Nielsen of Lie-Nielsen plane fame, but the book covers just about any tool you're likely to have in your workshop. I have this in my collection of Taunton woodworking books ... they're quite good to have around for reference.

That looks like a nice book.

Thanks for your recommendation!

[Yokohammer]

For sharpening, like for sanding and bodywork. a video is worth 4 brasiliuns books...

That depends on your reading comprehension level ... and how well the four Brazilians who wrote the books explained things.

[Coligny]

Half of it certainly... The other half being the author's own ability to lower himself to the level of tjhe apprentice in his explanashiunz.
But the third half being that skills that are usually learned hands on with a master in a workshop do not always transfer well into books.

I can read as much as I want aboot C-section or RWD car drifting (*). it will never teach me as well as watching me Julie in her playroom or going shopping for Lemurs with Chokonen. Anything hands on is better taught visually or hands on...

(*)even manual tranny hillstart was rocket surgery with only a theerycal approach. After being shown IRL it's now just another regular humiliation above my skills/paygrade.

[Yokohammer]

Half of it certainly... The other half being the author's own ability to lower himself to the level of tjhe apprentice in his explanashiunz.
But the third half being that skills that are usually learned hands on with a master in a workshop do not always transfer well into books.

I can read as much as I want aboot C-section or RWD car drifting (*). it will never teach me as well as watching me Julie in her playroom or going shopping for Lemurs with Chokonen. Anything hands on is better taught visually or hands on...

(*)even manual tranny hillstart was rocket surgery with only a theerycal approach. After being shown IRL it's now just another regular humiliation above my skills/paygrade.

No argument there. It's just that Worthy Masters are few and far between so other means of learning must be found. Then it's all about trial and error (and not being afraid to try and err*).

There are quite a few useful YouTube videos on sharpening too ... just avoid Joe Shmoe showing you how he sharpened his first and only chisel, and the like. There are a couple of good ones shot in the Lie-Nielsen workshop, by the way.

* Within reason, of course. Probably not the best approach for learning surgery.

[Coligny]

Usually, I get my woodworking fix from Sam Maloof and Norm Abrams. Plus the usual yootoob suspects like Diresta and Steve Ramsey. /Keith Fenner for metalworking.

Really little good advice from the rednecks gone wild channel though... Except for how to go mudding in a pickup while drunk like a manatee on moonshine...

[Wage Slave]

* Within reason, of course. Probably not the best approach for learning surgery.

Incidently - Hence the nomenclature - operating theatre. The audience watching and learning were, and are at times, as important as the procedure.

[Russell]

There are quite a few useful YouTube videos on sharpening too ... just avoid Joe Shmoe showing you how he sharpened his first and only chisel, and the like. There are a couple of good ones shot in the Lie-Nielsen workshop, by the way.

I've got a large set of chisels, inherited a long time ago from my grandpa, but never used, because they were old and dull, and rather bought two of my own. However, when I inspected them today, they actually look pretty good.

This nice video got me fired up.

Halfway the guy comes up with this little nifty device (honing guide) to sharpen his chisels at a constant bevel angle. Anyone know where I can buy those in Japan?

And where can I buy those plastic chisel caps (guards) that virtually all chisels sold in Japan seem to lack, except the cheap Chinese-made ones? They serve not only as a great protection to keep the edges from blunting, but also from actually grabbing into an edge with your hand (believe me, been there, done that). Anyway, I suppose I am not the only one with this problem. How do others solve it?

[Grumpy Gramps]

I would recommend the YouTube-channel of Paul Sellers. The whole channel is a treasure; lots to be learned from there.

[Yokohammer]

I've got a large set of chisels, inherited a long time ago from my grandpa, but never used, because they were old and dull, and rather bought two of my own. However, when I inspected them today, they actually look pretty good.

Yay! (I'm jealous).

Halfway the guy comes up with this little nifty device (honing guide) to sharpen his chisels at a constant bevel angle. Anyone know where I can buy those in Japan?

Yes. I have one just like it that I bought at Viva Home (I think it was Viva Home, and I did notice that they had them when I was there just yesterday). Anyway, you can get 'em at home centers. Indispensable. They hold both chisel and plane blades.

And where can I buy those plastic chisel caps (guards) that virtually all chisels sold in Japan seem to lack, except the cheap Chinese-made ones? They serve not only as a great protection to keep the edges from blunting, but also from actually grabbing into an edge with your hand (believe me, been there, done that). Anyway, I suppose I am not the only one with this problem. How do others solve it?

That I don't know, but I usually end up making simple wood sheaths for that sort of thing. Leather would be good too. They also sell canvas rolls for chisels, sometimes with a bit of leather sewed in to cover the blades.

[Yokohammer]

I would recommend the YouTube-channel of Paul Sellers. The whole channel is a treasure; lots to be learned from there.

Excellent! Hadn't seen that.

The Chris Schwarz stuff is good too.

[Grumpy Gramps]

At our local crafts store (that is where the ladies buy wool/yarn and such for knitting and sewing), they often have small patches of leather for a few hundred Yen. From these you can easily make some sheaths for chisels. I have also glued one of those on a scrap piece of 1x4 for a cheapskate sharpening strop. Sometimes a little thin, though, have to use two layers

[Coligny]

Norm Abrams, Sam Maloof, Diresta, Steve Ramsey. All good video source for woodworking.
Keith Fenner for metalworking.

--doubleposted... lack of sleep... the voices are telling me to kill and the dingos will eat me...--

[Russell]

I've got a large set of chisels, inherited a long time ago from my grandpa, but never used, because they were old and dull, and rather bought two of my own. However, when I inspected them today, they actually look pretty good.

Yay! (I'm jealous).

Halfway the guy comes up with this little nifty device (honing guide) to sharpen his chisels at a constant bevel angle. Anyone know where I can buy those in Japan?

Yes. I have one just like it that I bought at Viva Home (I think it was Viva Home, and I did notice that they had them when I was there just yesterday). Anyway, you can get 'em at home centers. Indispensable. They hold both chisel and plane blades.

I'm just back from a few home centers, but couldn't find them. Maybe I didn't look on the right shelves.

How are these things called in Japanese?

[Russell]

I would recommend the YouTube-channel of Paul Sellers. The whole channel is a treasure; lots to be learned from there.

I am now halfway through his video series for making a woodworkers bench. The guy does everything with hand tools. Impressive!

I especially like his poor-man's router.

[Yokohammer]

I'm just back from a few home centers, but couldn't find them. Maybe I didn't look on the right shelves.

How are these things called in Japanese?

I think this is the one I have.
Put this in the search box on Amazon Japan (I can't get Amazon links to work here): SK11 カンナ刃・ノミ刃研ぎガイド

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At Viva Home they're in the same place as the water stones, etc.

[Coligny]

often on the bottomesque shelf. like most useful thing that people go to buy because they need it and not the shiny things at eye level for folks who just wank around in the store searching for things to spend money on... but if your store sale woodplane, spare blades for them and sharpening stones, they will have this gizmo too...

[Grumpy Gramps]

Here is the Amazon-link (put "http://www/amazon.co.jp/dp/" and add the ASIN-number of the product in order to avoid the crappy links that never work )

[Russell]

Thanks all for that Amazon link.

In the big home center I went today (Musashi) they did have sharpening stones, but I did not see anything resembling a honing guide nearby.

I guess I have to try another home center.

One more thing I need is a diamond grinder to flatten my stones. Musashi had something like that but it did not look like the one I saw in the video, and it was also much smaller, so I did not buy it. How do you guys flatten your stones?

[Coligny]

My stones are pretty new. But when i want to be sure, I take 2 of them, real wet and rub them together while making moaning noizez for the soundtrack...

So I end up with flat surface and lesbian grinding stone sex video to upload to mah nood woodwerking channel...

Also my highest finish stone comes with her own small resurfacing stone... 1cm x 1cm x width of the stone

[Yokohammer]

Thanks all for that Amazon link.

In the big home center I went today (Musashi) they did have sharpening stones, but I did not see anything resembling a honing guide nearby.

I guess I have to try another home center.

One more thing I need is a diamond grinder to flatten my stones. Musashi had something like that but it did not look like the one I saw in the video, and it was also much smaller, so I did not buy it. How do you guys flatten your stones?

We have a Musashi up here, so I'll take a look next time I'm there. But Viva Home definitely has them, and I think I actually bought mine at my local Daishin.

Anyway, for flattening I have a diamond "stone" that's not as big as the one in the video, but it does the job. It's about the same size as the stones I'm flattening ... maybe a tad narrower. They also sell special flattening stones for that purpose. They have sort of a slotted surface and are called "men-naoshi toishi" (面直し砥石). Lots of stuff around.

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[Salty]

... How do others solve it?

I use cardboard with a duct tape wrap to create the sheath.