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It's official: Taiwan & Manchuria were never part of JPN

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It's official: Taiwan & Manchuria were never part of JPN

Postby Taro Toporific » Sun May 30, 2004 3:05 pm

The game (see screenshot below) clearly depicts these as colonies, puppet states and autonomous (Stoneage) regions. Sheesh.
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China bans game accused of distorting local history
2004-05-30 / Agence France-Presse /
China has banned a Swedish-made computer game accused of "distorting history and damaging China's sovereignty," by showing Manchuria, Tibet and Xinjiang as independent nations...The computer game, "Hearts of Iron," made by the Stockholm-based games developer Paradox Entertainment, also showed Taiwan as a part of Japan...
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Postby Caustic Saint » Mon May 31, 2004 8:07 am

I wonder if they've banned Risk?

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Postby Big Booger » Mon May 31, 2004 9:36 am

I guess Tibet never was invaded and taken over by the Chinese.. forcing the Dalai Lama out and installing their own puppet whom they could easily control, then rushing in hundreds of thousands of Han Chinese to change the demographics of Tibet to reflect China...

Taiwan was never given to Japan back in 1895 ( the Chin Dynasty didn't give it to Japan, they leased it) LOL

George Orwell would laugh his ass off at this newsbit.
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Postby AssKissinger » Mon May 31, 2004 9:51 am

George Orwell would laugh his ass off at this newsbit


Speaking of Orwell, did you ever read Down and Out in Paris and London? I know one FG who's so influenced by that book he won't wear a coat when it's cold.
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Postby Big Booger » Mon May 31, 2004 10:26 am

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/o/o79d/

reading it now.
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Postby AssKissinger » Mon May 31, 2004 10:40 am

Big Booger wrote:http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/o/o79d/

reading it now.
:D


http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/

What a kick-ass fucking link!!! Thanks BB.
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Postby Big Booger » Mon May 31, 2004 11:00 am

:D I am into chapter 4 already and am hooked. This is a fantastic tale.. his descriptions of poverty and shady characters is superb, and right fitting.

Oh and you can read all the classics for free online... I do. I got tons of .lit, .pdf. and .txt files of classic reading for free. In fact I believe I read '1984' online as well.

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Postby AssKissinger » Mon May 31, 2004 11:02 am

Big Booger wrote::D I am into chapter 4 already and am hooked. This is a fantastic tale.. his descriptions of poverty and shady characters is superb, and right fitting.

Oh and you can read all the classics for free online... I do. I got tons of .lit, .pdf. and .txt files of classic reading for free. In fact I believe I read '1984' online as well.

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Did you start it before I asked that? Because if you did that's kind of weird.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon May 31, 2004 11:19 am

Big Booger wrote:[Down and Out in Paris and London] is a fantastic tale.. his descriptions of poverty and shady characters is superb, and right fitting.


Down and Out in Paris and London is the paper version of what Lost-in-Translation should have been for shady FG characters... superb, and right fitting.

I read Down and Out one weekend long ago shacked up with an Isreali hostess in KOMA HOUSE. That's right-o, Coma gaijin House 'right fitting' for 'shady characters.'
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Postby Big Booger » Mon May 31, 2004 11:51 am

I began upon the read seconds after you posted. I've seldom read such words that spark visuals as G.O.

I can see the parallels in his Parisian adventures to a FG in Tokyo.. it really brought to mind THIS post.

:D He aught read this book I think.
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Postby AssKissinger » Mon May 31, 2004 12:32 pm

Big Booger wrote:I began upon the read seconds after you posted. I've seldom read such words that spark visuals as G.O.

I can see the parallels in his Parisian adventures to a FG in Tokyo.. it really brought to mind THIS post.

:D He aught read this book I think.


http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5479
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Postby maraboutslim » Mon May 31, 2004 2:14 pm

Big Booger wrote:I guess Tibet never was invaded and taken over by the Chinese.. forcing the Dalai Lama out and installing their own puppet whom they could easily control, then rushing in hundreds of thousands of Han Chinese to change the demographics of Tibet to reflect China...


yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree it's a terrible thing. Seriously.

But if the United States gets to claim all the land it took from various local peoples and other nations, then why can't China claim Tibet as part of China?

I'm going to wake up tomorrow and be pissed that Hawaii and California (for example) are shown as part of the United States on my globe!
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Postby Caustic Saint » Mon May 31, 2004 2:29 pm

maraboutslim wrote:But if the United States gets to claim all the land it took from various local peoples and other nations, then why can't China claim Tibet as part of China?

Show me the part in history where the residents on Tibet got to vote as to whether or not they became part of China. What's that? You can't?

Read up on the various statehood acts (Hawaii and Alaska are good places to start) and see what went into making those territories part of the US. You'll find it's a bit different than the Tibet situation.
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Postby maraboutslim » Mon May 31, 2004 2:40 pm

Caustic Saint wrote:
maraboutslim wrote:But if the United States gets to claim all the land it took from various local peoples and other nations, then why can't China claim Tibet as part of China?

Show me the part in history where the residents on Tibet got to vote as to whether or not they became part of China. What's that? You can't?


Give it 50 to 100 years of settlement by Chinese citizens in which the majority of native people are wiped out and then they can hold the vote and the results will probably be to join China. That's how the europeans did things.

You are joking right? Europeans worked their way west across the continent (and into the pacific rim) snatching anything they wanted and committing genocide on par with anything the Chinese have done. No way to whitewash it.
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Postby Marvin Feltcher » Mon May 31, 2004 4:38 pm

Read up on the various statehood acts (Hawaii ... see what went into making those territories part of the US.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the U.S. kill the Hawaiian royal family and annex Hawaii?
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Postby jingai » Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:07 am

Caustic Saint- there was a bit of a lag between the end of Queen Lil's reign and statehood. Hawai'i wasn't a state during world war II, FYI.

How about the unincorporated territory of Guam? What about Guantanamo? Did Puerto Rico have any choice? When did they vote to join the US?

How about what's now known as the Northern Marianas and Federated States of Micronesia? It took them 40 years to break way from the US and become (politically) independant. Compare with Taiwan- 1895-1945 occupied by Japan.

There's no need to apologize for China's repression or whitewash our own legacy.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:54 am

BBC via bikkle wrote:China censors online video games
"The Ministry of Culture will import some foreign online games whose contents accord with Chinese national conditions and bring positive effects to young people's mentality."


Yikes! China is gonna ban all games. :wink:
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