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Waseda Study Abroad?

Discuss learning Japanese, study abroad and ryuugakusei life. Thinking about studying in Japan? Get the scoop here!
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Re: Waseda Study Abroad?

Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:08 pm

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JH wrote: I was wondering whether the program at Waseda University was good...give me their opinions on it(housing/japanese language program/quality of life).


Ahhhh, Waseda.
Personally, for a Japanese university, I like the place. You could think of it as Japan's shoddy version of Stanford or McGill (and about as expensive). The Waseda student neighborhood is the "best' of Japan's pathetic student playgrounds. In the past, I have lived around Waseda area for 10 years---it's a slightly nicer version of a Tokyo concrete slum.

As for Japanese study, it's ok (but all Japanese universities are a cruel joke). "Housing?"---Japanese student housing will be an education in itself (most Japanese structures could not pass the building code in the real world). There's better schooling found at small private juku. Of the Japanese universities, ICU is the best* university for Japanese-English translation/interpreting, but it can be tough <http://www.icu.ac.jp/liberalarts_e/jlp.html>.

DISCLAIMER: Waseda brought me to guest lecture my first week in Japan. Almost all my Japanese friends are Wasada grads. My boss is a grad, my editor is a grad, hell, my o-cha girl is a grad...Wasada grads dominate Japanese publishing industry. Their main complaint is that Waseda is an education factory (20,000+ students and I doubt 2,000 are on the "campus" on any given day). My best-buddy here is an Iowa farm boy who JUST "graduated" Wasada's Japanese program after two years of dicking around. He also spent two years at the Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center at the Monterey, California (the largest foreign language institute in the world). He had fun at school , but I can't hire him as a translator/interpretor straight out of Waseda---he'll need at least five years in-country like most Westerners.

*"best"--- I say ICU is the "best" after about 20 years of my experience handing J/E and E/J translations. ICU grads both Japanese and gaijin generally are the best. Wasada and Keio grads are also good. Grads from the other Tokyo universities often prove to be marginal: it's the person not the school that counts. The BOTTOM LINE is the money my company pays. We just don't find many Western translators worth a shit---New Zealand produces the best (I'm an America).

Are you sure you want to study under a Wasada don?Image

PS: Actually, the "best" Japanese course for Americans is free! You should sign up the 3-month torture program of the Mormon Church---that will make you a real HENA gaijin. The Moron Church produces more Americans who are fluent in Japanese than any college, Japanese or Western.


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Postby Killer Tofu » Sat Jan 25, 2003 12:54 am

so this mormon church you speak of ?? :P i wanna hear bout this one. you mean a mormon church in jap or in america?
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Japanese-language "Boot" Camp

Postby Taro Toporific » Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:04 am

Killer Tofu wrote:so this mormon church you speak of ?? :P i wanna hear bout this one. you mean a mormon church in jap or in america?


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints aka the LDS Church requires Mormon guys to be missionaries when they're 19.

If you are assigned to go to Japan--- the send you to Language "Boot" Camp---you have no choice in the matter.

The boot camp is an intensive Japanese course in Provo, Utah for 3-6 months. You sign a waver saying you will never speak English during the entire time in boot camp (except to blow off steam in 50 min. gym class). If any English is uttered---boot to the head. If you don't speak Japanese, boot to the head. If you don't start speaking Japanese fluently, boot to the head and God will you curse you.

The boot-to-the-head camp has 40% rate of flip-out-shit-in-your-boots-and-wear-it-on-your-head-with-a-smile mental breakdowns.... but damn if all those f$&king Mormons speak Japanese when they come to Japan.

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Postby lucid » Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:56 am

heh, i'm currently studying in waseda. only been here for 3-4 months, but here's what i think.

any japanese college will probably suck as far as 'higher education' goes. they really are just playgrounds once the kids are out of examination hell of high school and junior high. thats why waseda and todai can be rated as the top schools in japan, yet fall pretty low on the world scale (not sure of the numbers).
however, if you're coming as an exchange student, you'll be in waseda's international building for most of your classes (building 22). they test you and place you in a japanese lanuage class from 1-13. if you haven't studied japanese much, you'll probably be in 1 or 2. level 13 students probably don't even need to learn anything, they're already fluent (i hear they read newspapers and learn things like academic writing in japanese). i can't say that they teach bad, i'm just a little dissatisfied because they curriculum doesn't match up to my home system, so while i know grammar up to like level 8 or so, my vocabulary and kanji is like level 3, so i'm in level 3. so whenever we study grammar, it's like "dude, i learned this first term of first year japanese!". but overall you do learn things pretty well.
if you have the choice, i say go for a homestay family. right now i'm using my host families internet connection to type this ^_^ it's really a great experience, and i might learn more japanese being with my family than i do in class. but not everyone has pleasant experiences. if there's any problems, waseda is really good about getting you into one of the dorms.
overall, i very much enjoy studying at waseda. but be sure to get yourself into a club or circle of some sort! they are so great! and there's thousands of them. my friend was in a cheese club. and of course there's martial arts clubs, sports clubs, literature clubs, anything!
also, this spring waseda is opening up a new international college, instead of just a division. so now they will let in many more students (i think) and more classes and stuff. you can check that out somewhere on the web, like waseda's homepage (sorry i couldn't find any links)
would you be doing this as part of a group (for example i'm in the OUS (oregon university system) group at waseda) or would you be an independent student?
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Postby kamome » Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:07 pm

lucid wrote: if you have the choice, i say go for a homestay family. right now i'm using my host families internet connection to type this ^_^ it's really a great experience, and i might learn more japanese being with my family than i do in class. be sure to get yourself into a club or circle of some sort! they are so great! and there's thousands of them. my friend was in a cheese club. and of course there's martial arts clubs, sports clubs, literature clubs, anything!


There is some wisdom in what you say, Lucid. I would tell people not to study abroad at a Japanese university. I never did such a program and instead learned Japanese at a US college while practicing with the Japanese friends I cultivated at school. Of course, to attain fluency you have to live in Japan for some time. That's where a homestay makes sense. But don't fork out the money to get some lame degree from a Japanese university. Such a degree won't have much of an impact in your home country anyway.
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Postby GuyJean » Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:12 am

Good lucid advice.. I mean; good advice, lucid...
lucid wrote: i very much enjoy studying at waseda. but be sure to get yourself into a club or circle of some sort!

Yeah.. You'll meet a lot of chicks if you join the rape club - SuperFree!.. :wink:
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4276

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Postby demoneyeskyo » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:33 pm

I know the thread is kinda old, but does anyone know where to get more info? I'm seriously considering at looking into it. Thanks.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:47 pm

GuyJean wrote:Good lucid advice.. I mean] i very much enjoy studying at waseda. but be sure to get yourself into a club or circle of some sort!

Yeah.. You'll meet a lot of chicks if you join the rape club - SuperFree!..
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4276[/quote]

Well there's always Meiji University's Japanese program and clubs if Waseda doesn't work out....

9 Meiji University rugby freshmen suffer alcoholic poisoning

(Mainichi Shimbun, Japan, April 7, 2004)Nine new members of Meiji University's rugby club suffered acute alcoholic poisoning after drinking in senior members' rooms earlier this month, university officials said Wednesday....
The incident occurred last Saturday at the club's dormitory in Setagaya-ku, Tokyo, according to the university's public relations department.
Twenty-three freshmen who had just joined Meiji University's rugby club, paid a courtesy call on senior members in their rooms when they were urged to drink alcohol. All of them are minors.
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