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City / Ku Tax

Postby mamachari » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:39 am

I always assumed that if you worked as a full time employee at a Japanese corporation which takes care of your tax situation that the company would get a better rate than what a fucked gaijin would be paying directly to the city.

Do you think that this could be true?

Most Japanese that do and I ask about the city tax have no idea about it or how much they pay or understand the city tax scheme at all.

Just something I was thinking about.
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby yanpa » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:25 am

mamachari wrote:I always assumed that if you worked as a full time employee at a Japanese corporation which takes care of your tax situation that the company would get a better rate than what a fucked gaijin would be paying directly to the city.

Do you think that this could be true?


Why would that be the case?
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:30 am

No, it's not true.
The tax rates will be the same for individuals, Japanese or gaijin.
What the company does when you're a full-time employee is complete your tax returns on your behalf, which includes arranging payment of your municipal tax. If that is your only source of income/claims, there is little benefit in filing your own tax return (which your company would probably frown on anyway). Put simply, your taxes are an income tax (national government) and local government taxes (prefectural/municipal). Income tax is calculated on earnings for the current year. Local government taxes are calculated on income earned in the previous calender year. There are also other taxes (like nursing care for those over 40, etc.) but these are the basics.
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:32 am

yanpa wrote:Why would that be the case?


If you were Japanese wouldn't you, deep down in your heart, want to inflict a back-breaking tax levy on filthy white pigs? (Tongue planted firmly in cheek while writing this....no righteous indignation, please)
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby mamachari » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:34 am

Ok thanks, just wondering. I often ask Japanese about the municipal tax / city / ku tax and they have no idea. One Japanese commented he was surprised that gaijin had to pay it. LOL.
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby mamachari » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:36 am

yanpa wrote:
mamachari wrote:I always assumed that if you worked as a full time employee at a Japanese corporation which takes care of your tax situation that the company would get a better rate than what a fucked gaijin would be paying directly to the city.

Do you think that this could be true?


Why would that be the case?


Well my company has suddenly decided to deduct the city tax directly from my pay and I was wondering why they would do that. I was wondering if there could be any benefit for them.

Sure wish that the municipal tax was deducted from my pay on day 1. Kinda of unpleasant to pay last years taxes when this years salary is plummeting.  
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby Russell » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:59 am

For the first year being in Japan, you need not pay city tax, because it is based on your previous year's earnings in Japan, which is 0 for the vast majority of FG.

On your salary statement you can find how much city tax is deduced from your salary.
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby yanpa » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:05 am

mamachari wrote:
yanpa wrote:
mamachari wrote:I always assumed that if you worked as a full time employee at a Japanese corporation which takes care of your tax situation that the company would get a better rate than what a fucked gaijin would be paying directly to the city.

Do you think that this could be true?


Why would that be the case?


Well my company has suddenly decided to deduct the city tax directly from my pay and I was wondering why they would do that. I was wondering if there could be any benefit for them. 


Why not ask your company?

Which reminds me, I must ask mine, it seems in contrast to my previous employer they are not deducting the tax.
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby mamachari » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:28 am

Russell wrote:For the first year being in Japan, you need not pay city tax, because it is based on your previous year's earnings in Japan, which is 0 for the vast majority of FG.

On your salary statement you can find how much city tax is deduced from your salary.



Yeah I understand how it works. Just my ass hurts really bad.
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:03 am

mamachari wrote: Just my ass hurts really bad.


I've heard it's easier to handle if you bite the pillow....
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Re: City / Ku Tax

Postby yanpa » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:48 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
mamachari wrote: Just my ass hurts really bad.


I've heard it's easier to handle if you bite the pillow....


Or upgrade from a mamachari.
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