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Best ways to get an IT job in Japan

The secrets to securing the coveted Token Gaijin position.
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Postby onechinanow » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:53 am

I work for a Japanese University that is trying hard to recruit Chinese students so I have been building China friendly websites and things like that for them in chinese. I am a student at the college too so it helps :)

Anyway, we just started using software from a gaijin owned company in Japan which actually does most of its business outside of Japan and actually has a lot of gaijin working for them in Fukuoka and Tokyo and outside Japan too. I met a few of there people when we hired them to install at my university some software they make.

I spoke to them a little bit because they have some operations in Chinese speaking country so obviously I was maneuvering to get a job after graduation :) But they told me the j-government monitors the % of Japanese to Gaijin regardless of sponsored visa, permanent resident or marriage and they are given a very hard time to sponsor work visa's but can sponsor a few. Anyway, most of the gaijin that work for them have other visa's like marriage visa so they don't need to sponsor them but the J government still counts the gaijin against them when they sponsoring visa as if the gaijin are under work visa but they are not. So they get punished.

Anyway, if you already have visa and speak english or chinese you might want to take a look at they because they are "really" gaijin friendly and growing very fast with some interesting business in and outside Japan.

Here's english website http://edozun.com there is Japanese one too but the appeal mainly to an outside Japan audience which is very funny i think. But good if you want to work in english workplace and get better treatment. I do not know if they are hiring but I put up the information so you can see.
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Postby Western All Stars » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:11 pm

onechinanow wrote:Anyway, if you already have visa and speak english or chinese you might want to...


No offense, but why a lot of companies require you to have a visa already? To me that's a big red flag that the company is too cheap to invest in high quality employees by sponsoring a measly visa.
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Postby ttjereth » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:48 pm

Western All Stars wrote:No offense, but why a lot of companies require you to have a visa already? To me that's a big red flag that the company is too cheap to invest in high quality employees by sponsoring a measly visa.


Because it's a pain in the ass to sponsor a visa in Japan and entails a lot more responsibility for the actions of the employee at and outside of work than a lot of companies are willing to accept.

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Postby Greji » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:32 pm

ttjereth wrote:Because it's a pain in the ass to sponsor a visa in Japan and entails a lot more responsibility for the actions of the employee at and outside of work than a lot of companies are willing to accept.


It is really not that much of a problem to sponsor a visa. It is a question if the company wants to do it. Those that are actually looking for the right candidate for a job, do not worry that much about it. The ones that refuse to sponsor a visa usually aren't looking for a highly specialized employee. There are also those occasional companies that don't mind sponsoring a visa as they feel that gives them more power of the individual e.g. Mess up and we'll pull our sponsorship. There are those among these rare cases who even think that's the proper manner to deal with FGs, given our glowing reputations.

Having said that, I would add that the amount of responsibility a J-company accepts for an employee once he/she is out after office hours is at best, a joke. No matter how much they tell you about the company family", let a lower or even mid-level J-employee or FG mess up outside and have it brought to the attention of the company, it's the old story of "Don't let the door hit you in the ass"! The sekinin always falls on the employee. The company may make a lot of noise about how hard they have tried and failed to properly look out for and properly instruct their employees, but it's always going to be those in the ranks that are forced out and even occasionally "fired outright" for any slight that brings actual or even perceived bad PR to the company. They can be very brutal when they think it is called for!
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Postby ttjereth » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:43 pm


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Postby GomiGirl » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:52 pm

I have sponsored heaps of visas through my company. If I want an employee and they are foreign it is just part of the deal. I even have one guy who is married to a Japanese national but he is on a working visa through us as we employed him before he got married.

*Usually* I have no problems getting it through quickly as long as the person has the degree etc. I sponsored one PhD for a certain project and his visa was approved in 7 days. I have never used an Immigration lawyer and do it all myself.

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Postby Papa-Lazarou » Mon May 19, 2008 7:01 am

Are the chances of a MCSE/CCNP getting recruited from UK to Japan pretty slim?
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Postby uchimizu » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:16 am

I must say that as an employee of a large corporation, my visa requests were very quickly processed. Having experienced US and French immigration, visa processing in Japan is really the best I have seen.

I believe the visa processing is quite complex though. However, I heard the total cost if you use lawyers is in the thousands of dollars. Hiring foreigners will sometimes be more complex, one typical trouble is that a company may have to be a guarantor for the foreigners flat...

Anyways, it does not change the fact going through this paperwork can be very unpleasant.
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Postby pheyton » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:51 am

I wonder how the decline in Japan's population will affect the job market? Will they relax the requirments for hiring people/foreigners?
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