My Fight with my Employer!

[FG Lurker]

Hehe..whether one turns to inferiority or superiority it's still a reaction to dealing with a society that will never accept you.

I really don't have any problems with my situation in Japan. Part of that is probably because I really don't care what the vast majority of people think of me or about me... In situations that matter (family, business, neighborhood) I have no problems that are based on me being a large white guy.

[Fat Man]

I really don't have any problems with my situation in Japan. Part of that is probably because I really don't care what the vast majority of people think of me or about me... In situations that matter (family, business, neighborhood) I have no problems that are based on me being a large white guy.

The contract was full of alot of invaild things and the working conditions were deteriorating over the years and my employer was not following the Labour Standard Law.

After going back and forth to the Labour standard Office to complain about paid holidays and my contract last year, now I don`t have any problems in the work place because my employer is following the law and all Foreigners have a copy of the rules of employment in the work place and are getting paid holidays.

In my situation I don`t really think any of my fellow employees care what I done in the past and nobody hasn`t really thank me for improving the working conditions, not just for myself but for the future generations.

I think most Foreigners would just quit if their job, look for a better one if their employer was not following the law and continue to take advantage of their staff.

[Greji]

Yep. Had some nice privates in my time in Japan (*snickers* looks around...nope. Gboothe not around to chops me)......

Do you really think I was really going to let you get away with that? Talking about me privates while I was away being an invalid?
Cheeky at best!:p

[Watcher]

I call Troll. This whole thread is deteriorating sadness. Not even the worst English teacher I met ever had such shocking spelling/grammar nor rambled so incoherently.

[Greji]

I call Troll. This whole thread is deteriorating sadness. Not even the worst English teacher I met ever had such shocking spelling/grammar nor rambled so incoherently.

May I second that motion?

[drpepper]

May I second that motion?

All in favor?


Aye!

[sillygirl]

Do you really think I was really going to let you get away with that? Talking about me privates while I was away being an invalid?
Cheeky at best!:p

You know it, big boy....!

[gekisou]

I was in a similar position as FatMan except was working for a Japanese company situated in Australia. They tried to make me sign a document regarding work conditions that were very open for interpretation in the favour of the employer.

This was despite (and none of the following being of what I was employed to do);
Working unpaid overtime on minimum wage (despite having hard to find abilities in the local market)
Teaching English to Non-Speaking Japanese staff after hours
Finding accommodation and sorting out normal living requirements for staff that was to be supplied by the employer but never eventuated (again after hours)
Loaning items to help the company (including personal computers!) and then being threatened with legal action if I did not return the computers when I quit and siezed them (my property with no written contract of loaning you FUKERS - what gives you the right to demand them back?!)
+ MUCH MUCH MORE (they were paying Japanese staff about 40,000 yen a week for 80+ hours a week and bringing them over on illegal visas

Thankfully it was all sorted out and the action was soon dropped once we explained to the lawyers what was really going on with the illegal immigration... haha. BTW they now shut down!

I now realise that yes I was a bit of a whinger and it took me a while to quit the job - but now I own my own company and get to work hard on building my own successes without all the bullshit! Now 2x their employees work for me!

So quit whinging and do your own thing - stand on your own two feet!

[Fat Man]

After all the problems that have occured over the last 6months, my employer decided to take me back to work after signing the contract for another year and have already worked one week into my new contract.

My employer asked me to ask all the parents who signed the petition, to sign their name once more on it and to show that I am working again.So after work, I asked the parents for their signatures even though I did not want to, as there was no meaning to it and I felt very stupid asking everybody in front of the School and I managed to get about half of the mothers and my employer set a dead line for it to be handed in.

When I went to hand it in, the staff would not accept it in person and that I am suppose to make an appointment but I could not be bothered waiting around untill the manager finishes work so I decided to fax it in.

The next day my employer told me that I have to get all the parents signatures by a certain date, even the children who no longer study English there and that if I don`t get everybodys who signed it in the first place, then I will have no job and in the mean time she will get someone else to teach my classes.

If I get all the parents signatures, then my employer wants to talk me about my schedule and then I will start working.

Should I go out of my way again and get all the signatures which will take about 5days or more or should I just tell her that I can`t and that the parents dont want to sign as it means nothing to them?

[kamome]

After all the problems that have occured over the last 6months, my employer decided to take me back to work after signing the contract for another year and have already worked one week into my new contract.

My employer asked me to ask all the parents who signed the petition, to sign their name once more on it and to show that I am working again.So after work, I asked the parents for their signatures even though I did not want to, as there was no meaning to it and I felt very stupid asking everybody in front of the School and I managed to get about half of the mothers and my employer set a dead line for it to be handed in.

When I went to hand it in, the staff would not accept it in person and that I am suppose to make an appointment but I could not be bothered waiting around untill the manager finishes work so I decided to fax it in.

The next day my employer told me that I have to get all the parents signatures by a certain date, even the children who no longer study English there and that if I don`t get everybodys who signed it in the first place, then I will have no job and in the mean time she will get someone else to teach my classes.

If I get all the parents signatures, then my employer wants to talk me about my schedule and then I will start working.

Should I go out of my way again and get all the signatures which will take about 5days or more or should I just tell her that I can`t and that the parents dont want to sign as it means nothing to them?

It sounds like they are dicking you around for giving them a hard time in the first place. Honestly, I think you no longer have good standing in your place of employment. I don't know why they renewed your contract, but do you really want to keep working for these people after everything that has happened? Even though they are signing your paychecks, they are doing it grudgingly and will probably make your life very uncomfortable for the rest of the year.

[Fat Man]

It sounds like they are dicking you around for giving them a hard time in the first place. Honestly, I think you no longer have good standing in your place of employment. I don't know why they renewed your contract, but do you really want to keep working for these people after everything that has happened?

I would have to agree with you Kamome that my employer is dicking me around and has been for the quite some time.This is one reason why I want to continue working, my employer has not been treating me like all the other employees in the workplace and I willing to battle it out untill I start making some serious doe.Also I have been working there for quite a long time, I know how to do my job properly and want to show that you can`t mess around with your own employees.

When all the problems started last year, I did feel like quitting a number of times as I had became unpopular with the some of the staff but this year I am working at a different School with new staff, so I was looking forward to working with everybody and was planning not to cause any problems as the working conditions are better compared to last year.

[Charles]

I willing to battle it out untill I start making some serious doe...I know how to do my job properly...

English teacher!

[sillygirl]

English teacher!

Oh deer.....

[Greji]

Oh deer.....

Never had a deer! I wonder if they am any good? Hmmmm

[sillygirl]

Never had a deer! I wonder if they am any good? Hmmmm

Well, apparently this is supposed to attract deer:



Personally, I prefer this:



Hmmm. interesting stuff : Wierd deer stuff

[Greji]

Personally, I prefer this:



Hmmm.

What did the English teaching doe say when she came running out of the woods? A: I'll never do that for two bucks again ...

[sillygirl]

What did the English teaching doe say when she came running out of the woods? A: I'll never do that for two bucks again ...

(Homer can't spell either..)

[kamome]

I would have to agree with you Kamome that my employer is dicking me around and has been for the quite some time.This is one reason why I want to continue working, my employer has not been treating me like all the other employees in the workplace and I willing to battle it out untill I start making some serious doe.Also I have been working there for quite a long time, I know how to do my job properly and want to show that you can`t mess around with your own employees.

When all the problems started last year, I did feel like quitting a number of times as I had became unpopular with the some of the staff but this year I am working at a different School with new staff, so I was looking forward to working with everybody and was planning not to cause any problems as the working conditions are better compared to last year.

You can't teach them a lesson by doing this. They won't change their policies on account of you. They're a shitty outfit, apparently. If they have done something wrong, get the government to investigate them or sue them, but just hanging around and tolerating the bad working conditions won't solve anything.

I'd get out of there as soon as I found another job.

[Fat Man]

If they have done something wrong, get the government to investigate them or sue them, but just hanging around and tolerating the bad working conditions won't solve anything.

I have already reported my employer to the Labour Standard Office, we are going to be taking legal action and in the mean time, I hope to get some private students on the side outside my working hours that I am suppose to teach.

[homesweethome]

I have already reported my employer to the Labour Standard Office, we are going to be taking legal action and in the mean time, I hope to get some private students on the side outside my working hours that I am suppose to teach.

Ripping off their students from them (or better yet their coorporate clients) will do far more damage economically, and psychologically, than anything the LSO could or would do.

Work from the inside.

Been there and done that.

[kamome]

[quote="homesweethome"]Ripping off their students from them (or better yet their coorporate clients) will do far more damage economically, and psychologically, than anything the LSO could or would do.

Work from the inside.

Been there and done that.

]

I like that approach.

[Fat Man]

[quote="homesweethome"]Ripping off their students from them (or better yet their coorporate clients) will do far more damage economically, and psychologically, than anything the LSO could or would do.

Work from the inside.

Been there and done that.

]

Taking students from your own employer, you would have to be pretty low to do such a thing.Wasn`t planning of doing such a thing and the idea never came across mind.
Even if I did my employer would not suffer financially and I am sure my employer would find out straight away as the word get around very quick.
A matter of fact it is written in my contract that I am not allowed to work in
--- or within five kilometres.

[dimwit]

A matter of fact it is written in my contract that I am not allowed to work in
--- or within five kilometres.

Contracts like that are of dubious legality and at any rate given the time, money and effort to take someone to court no school would ever try.

[ttjereth]

I call Troll. This whole thread is deteriorating sadness. Not even the worst English teacher I met ever had such shocking spelling/grammar nor rambled so incoherently.

I worked for an Eikaiwa my first year in Tokyo and they had pidgin speaking non-natives teaching a lot of their classes.

Mostly bottom-of-the-barrel cases, but I know of quite a few other eikaiwa schools in Tokyo who just want foreign faces and couldn't care less about actual English ability.

[KanpaiQuigley]

I worked for an Eikaiwa my first year in Tokyo and they had pidgin speaking non-natives teaching a lot of their classes.

Mostly bottom-of-the-barrel cases, but I know of quite a few other eikaiwa schools in Tokyo who just want foreign faces and couldn't care less about actual English ability.

So I have hope for a part-time job while in college in Tokyo? I feel overqualified, being an English/Journalism major with 2 years under my belt, coming from the U.S.

I had no idea that Eikaiwas took people without degrees... let alone non-native English speakers!

[james]

:rolleyes:

She owns her own company, while you are still a wage slave with illegal visa status.

what do you do gg?

i couldn't read through his entire post. that someone with written english of such low calibre is "teaching" the language does little credit to an industry that still has less than an ideal reputation. in any case, i think he said that he's here on a spousal visa, which begs the question why he doesn't do more, such as going into business for himeself or something entirely different.

[james]

Who cares anyway.I am not a certified English teacher and I am only teaching children, so there is no need for me to write anything except for the set phrases that I will teach everyday.

no offence, but therein lies the crux of the problem i think. "who cares, anyway?"

that attitude just absolutely sucks. there's no other way to put it. that you can't be arsed to do any more than the bare minimum, if that, goes a long way in explaining your conundrum.

"am only teaching children?"

both as a parent of two young boys and a teacher, that statement makes my blood boil. i'm not a "certified" english teacher either. there's a lot more to being a teacher than some certificate that says you are.

in fact my background is engineering and IT, but i decided a long time ago i don't want to be a code monkey. i've built up a small school (90 students) out here in the boondocks of shimane and have been teaching myself how to teach. it's not always easy. i'm now moving towards the "business owner" side of the quadrant and opening a second school with my first part-time hire. it's been quite educational, to say the least, and thusfar quite expensive. it's come to light that i am trying to undo some damage that was done in the area, i'm guessing by the likes of a company for which you work.

i am very, very focused on giving my kids the maximum that i can do. i have a good working relationship with my students built on trust. anyone with a modicum of dedication less than that should get out.

[james]

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1 Joined the Union
2 Got my employer investigated by the LSO
3 Took payed holidays
4 Enroled myself in unemployment insurance
5 Handed out flyers in front of the School
6 Had a meeting with the children parents about my problem with my employer
7 Didn`t go to the Christmas party
8 Started up a petition

9. Learned to spell, use an apostrophe and reviewed fourth grade grammar
10. Moved on
11. Got a new job
12. Learned from past mistakes

[james]

I have an attitude problem?

You are right in that one of us is likely not welcome here. For some strange reason I don't think it is me.

well with FG's post count exactly two orders of magnitude higher, i know where i'm staking my bets as to whom is welcome..

[FG Lurker]

I think FatMan was another NerfoNomiCon troll account.