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Postby uptempo » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:02 am

Does anyone know if Chinese Americans have an equal chance of getting a job as a JET or AEON Teacher? I have heard stories that they are more biased towards white people, or people who are more "American" or more foreign looking. Do Asian Americans usually have a lower rate of successfully getting a job in Japan?

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Postby BO-SENSEI » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:06 am

I know dozens of Chinese Americans and Canadians teaching in the JET Program and Eikaiwa companies, while yes, I have heard too that some people prefer to learn English from white people, I have never seen anything to prove it. You shouldn't be worried if you think your race is going to be a factor in getting the job or not, most people who are connected to English programs are very open minded.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:38 am

That is like trying to learn Chinese from a white sensei. If that floats your boat, then all power to ya!
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:58 am

IkemenTommy wrote:That is like trying to learn Chinese from a white sensei. If that floats your boat, then all power to ya!


If the white guy was born and raised in a Chinese speaking country and speaks at a native level, it's the same.

uptempo, Although that bias probably does still exist for some students/employers, there are a ton of Asian-Americans/Canadians/Australians/etc. teaching English here so I wouldn't worry about it. The real question is why teach English in Japan at all?
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Postby IkemenTommy » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:22 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:The real question is why teach English in Japan at all?

Teaching Engrish in Japan was so 1980s.

There are plenty of "teaching Engrish" threads on here that recommend you not to follow that path.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:39 pm

uptempo wrote:Does anyone know if Chinese Americans have an equal chance of getting a job as a JET or AEON Teacher? I have heard stories that they are more biased towards white people, or people who are more "American" or more foreign looking. Do Asian Americans usually have a lower rate of successfully getting a job in Japan?

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It is disappointing you are not Korean American. If you were so, you would accept high quality treatment in Japanese education system. Because zainichi Korean have quite power in Japanese education system.
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Postby uptempo » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:59 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:That is like trying to learn Chinese from a white sensei. If that floats your boat, then all power to ya!



hhahaha i actually laughed at that..good analogy :D

but yeah thanks for the info...i'll just try my best at the aeon interview and on my JET app..if i get it i get it..if i dont then yeah...

heres my situation if anyones interested..i just graduated with a B.S in environmental bio in california and wanted to try something new...i had some teaching experience at my work in college since i trained a lot of people..but it seems so different from teaching an actual English class...it does make me wonder though..if i get lucky and got the job..ill come back to the u.s and would have to job hunt all over again...im currenty working as a contractor in a biotech company doing quality control..and the contract ends next july..so itd be pretty good timing if i do get the teaching job. I have to admit I wanna go to Japan because of their nature sites and citylife. But at the same time, my sister also studied abroad in Japan and I grew up with Japanese friends so I really do wanna learn their social culture too. That might not be a good enough reason but ehh...i never even took japanese in hs or college..so whatever!!! blah!!!! And also, I really wanna meet new people and just experience something completely new.

Do you guys think its worth it? Or is this idea very immature? Should I just stay in the states and make the money instead of going abroad? Thanks for reading.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:22 pm

uptempo wrote:hhahaha i actually laughed at that..good analogy :D

but yeah thanks for the info...i'll just try my best at the aeon interview and on my JET app..if i get it i get it..if i dont then yeah...

heres my situation if anyones interested..i just graduated with a B.S in environmental bio in california and wanted to try something new...i had some teaching experience at my work in college since i trained a lot of people..but it seems so different from teaching an actual English class...it does make me wonder though..if i get lucky and got the job..ill come back to the u.s and would have to job hunt all over again...im currenty working as a contractor in a biotech company doing quality control..and the contract ends next july..so itd be pretty good timing if i do get the teaching job. I have to admit I wanna go to Japan because of their nature sites and citylife. But at the same time, my sister also studied abroad in Japan and I grew up with Japanese friends so I really do wanna learn their social culture too. That might not be a good enough reason but ehh...i never even took japanese in hs or college..so whatever!!! blah!!!! And also, I really wanna meet new people and just experience something completely new.

Do you guys think its worth it? Or is this idea very immature? Should I just stay in the states and make the money instead of going abroad? Thanks for reading.

Not trying to be the grammar police here, but you might want to work on your punctuations and capitalizations before you ever think about teaching Engrish. I can't recommend you to all my J friends as an eikaiwa sensei with that kind of sentence structure.
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Postby uptempo » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:27 pm

its just internet forum so i never really correct anything..but thanks ill take not of it
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:06 pm

uptempo wrote:Do you guys think its worth it? Or is this idea very immature? Should I just stay in the states and make the money instead of going abroad?


It's not worth it. It'll add nothing to your resume. Stay home and get as much experience in the field you want to work in as possible. Teaching English in Japan isn't even a good move if you want a career as an ESL teacher. Use your vacations to explore Japan and satisfy your curiosity.
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Postby dimwit » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:20 pm

Many moons ago when I first came to Japan I was working with a Chinese Canadian girl who taught here for two years and than using the contacts she had built up here set up an import-export business based in China. So I think English teaching can still be a stepping stone.
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Postby FG Lurker » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:40 pm

uptempo wrote:i just graduated with a B.S in environmental bio in california [...] it does make me wonder though..if i get lucky and got the job..ill come back to the u.s and would have to job hunt all over again...im currenty working as a contractor in a biotech company doing quality control..

Do you guys think its worth it?

No, it is NOT WORTH IT. Coming here will do nothing to further your career and will quite likely fuck it up. I don't expect you to heed this advice, but at least you can't say no one warned you.

uptempo wrote:Should I just stay in the states and make the money instead of going abroad?

This sounds like an excellent idea. Get your career off the ground and make some money. Travel to Japan during your holidays. Maybe a few years down the road you can find a way into Japan in your chosen field but even that is iffy as too much time spent in Japan working in your field can end up pigeon-holing you as someone who only does Japan-related work.
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Postby uptempo » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:41 pm

Thanks guys ..yeah mind the crappy spelling and grammar i dont usually correct crap since its just internet..i just type whatever comes to mind.. i spent like 2 weeks on my jet essay though, and had people read it lolol..hopefully it wont be too bad..


thanks for all the opinions...gonna be thinking a lot about my situation :D
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