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What 'Vlogging' Should Be..

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What 'Vlogging' Should Be..

Postby GuyJean » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:44 pm

This guy has the right idea. Who wants to watch someone telling us about their experiences? It's much better to join the person in their experiences.. Even better to have them comment on it after the fact..

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That chick is freaky.. But hot-freaky..

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Postby Tsuru » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:48 pm

Flogging?
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Postby GuyJean » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:06 pm

Tsuru wrote:Flogging?
:D Nah. I'd rather be caught Vlogging Asuka.. ]http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forum/album_mod/upload/8595b510c6a05efc8cb865e0f326e8dc.jpg[/img]
Well, maybe not..

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Re: What 'Vlogging' Should Be..

Postby Mulboyne » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:48 pm

GuyJean wrote:This guy has the right idea. Who wants to watch someone telling us about their experiences? It's much better to join the person in their experiences.. Even better to have them comment on it after the fact..


Yes, I think he has a good idea. Given the time he must be taking filming and editing, though, he probably ought to take an extra ten or fifteen minutes to think about his commentary. He's watching it at the same time we are but, because he hasn't really planned what to say, his comments are a couple of beats too late and end up a little distracting. Especially when Asuka is writhing around.
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Re: What 'Vlogging' Should Be..

Postby GuyJean » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:23 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Given the time he must be taking filming and editing, though, he probably ought to take an extra ten or fifteen minutes to think about his commentary.
It would also be kind of cool to have him facing the other way, commenting and pointing things out. Every once in awhile turning around to introduce the next scene.. Kind of like Mystery Science Theater..
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At any rate, what he does takes time, creativity, and energy.. I appreciate it for what it is, as well as what it could be..

Wish I had more time.. :wink:

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Postby Greji » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:35 am

GuyJean wrote: I'd rather be caught Vlogging Asuka.. ]http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forum/album_mod/upload/8595b510c6a05efc8cb865e0f326e8dc.jpg[/img]
Well, maybe not..

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Comeon GJ, admit it! You just don't have the right angle for Asuka Vlogging
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Postby drpepper » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:24 am

I'll let him know your thoughts, he is a friend of mine. He has been trying to get me into vlogging as well... not sure if I want to spend the time on it.
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Postby GuyJean » Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:36 am

gboothe wrote: You just don't have the right angle for Asuka Vlogging
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I agree.. I'll have to make time for Vlogging some As.. ]I'll let him know your thoughts, he is a friend of mine.[/quote] I was going to send him an email of appreciation, but couldn't find any contact info on his site.. It's probably for the best; too many armchair critics in the world.. ;)

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Postby GuyJean » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:19 am

I think your advice is good for a professionally produced show, but it's hard to transfer to a video log. A 'vlog', based on what I've seen, is supposed to be a tad amaturish. A video diary; there are grammatical mistakes and run-on sentences in diaries.. People want 'reality' these days; if it looks produced then it feels 'produced' and unnatural.. Kind of fake.

His format is a big improvement over other video logs I've seen where people sit in front of the camera and talk about shit they've done.. Who wants to see that? (Actually, there are many that do.. But I don't) I'd rather see the shit they've done.

Tripod shots would be nice, but I think it's impractical for what he does. People tend to clam-up when they see a tripod; It's not just a guy with a camera anymore. It's a production! Smoothly shot handhelds add that sense of 'being there' I feel the 'new' viewers tend to want.

Whatever our advice, I hope he keeps doing what he's doing. As we know, producing, shooting, editing, and packaging takes a hell of a lot of time. The more professionalism he strives for, the less video logs he'll create..

Just my 2 yen, at 120 to the dollar..

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Postby cstaylor » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:56 am

IIRC, you can get shoulder-mounts for the better DV cameras. :idea:
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Thinking ahead

Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:41 pm

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Postby drpepper » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:39 pm

Thanks Roppongi for your advice. However much I agree with it you need to understand this is not a production, those are not subjects. He just goes out and records whatever is there. It really is meant to be a sharing of what he is experiencing and I don't think he has any interest in scripting or having 'takes'. What happens, happens ya know? That is his approach in any case, although it is different from how I would approach it. But then again that is also what is good about it, it is different than how someone else would do it.

Um.. He is also aware of your stuff and .. um.. he kinda has a different take on what you do. He is more into honesty and real life kinda stuff and I think your stuff comes off as being kinda fake and possibly a bit pretentious for him. :oops:

Personally I like it all but they are 2 different things. I pointed him to tis forum but I doubt he will chime in of this. Different strokes... 8)
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Re: What 'Vlogging' Should Be..

Postby cstaylor » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:06 pm

GuyJean wrote:That chick is freaky.. But hot-freaky..

My original point about Japanese and dance still stands unshaken. :wink:
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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:03 am

That guy totally sucks! Did you hear what he said?

"Some of it was over-the-top for me so I cut a lot of it out!"

I hate that born again wanker goody goody crap. I'm so sick of that fucking conservative BULLSHIT.
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:48 am

AssKissinger wrote:I hate that born again wanker goody goody crap. I'm so sick of that fucking conservative BULLSHIT.
You're just bummed because he didn't show you..

I think her 'Ping Pong' dance might've offended his regular viewers. ;)

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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:11 am

You're just bummed because he didn't show you..


Duh!

But still his show sucks.
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:16 am

AssKissinger wrote:
You're just bummed because he didn't show you..
But still his show sucks.
Whatever.. Don't watch it.

I'm sure he won't listen to your music; you're both happy.. You bitterly so.. ;)

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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:00 am

How could one not be bitter?
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